Mabel Butler 1889 - ??
Dob 1889
Name Mabel Butler
Registration Date 1889
Quarter of the Year Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Place Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Volume 6c Page 49
Baptism
Mabel Butler
Gender Female
Baptism Date 21 Feb 1889
Baptism Place St Martin's, Tipton, Stafford, England
Father Thomas Butler
Mother Clara
FHL Film Number1526134
Parents
Thomas Butler & Clara Langford
Parents Marriage
19/12/1886 St Martin Tipton
Thomas Butler
Marriage Age21
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1865
Residence Place 202Nd Horseley Heath
Father Joseph Butler
Spouse Clara Langford
Marriage Age 21
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1865
Residence Place Brierley Hill
Marriage Date19 Dec 1886
Marriage Place Tipton, St Martin, Staffordshire, England
Father Eli Langford
Religion Anglican
Page number 224
1891 233 Horsley Heath Tipton
Thomas Butler 26 Head Fitter
Clara Butler 25 Wife
Maud Butler 4 Daughter
Mabel Butler 2 Daughter
All born Tipton
1901 5 Brick kiln St Dudley
Thomas Butler 36 Head Metal ?? Fitter
Clara Butler 35 Wife
Maude Butler 14 Daughter
Mabel Butler 12 Daughter
Clara Butler 8 Daughter
Joseph Butler 6 Son
Eliza Butler 3 Daughter
Minnie Butler 1 Daughter
Marriage 4/8/1909 B/Ham
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Spouse Thomas Cummings
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Private 8763 Thomas Cummings
1884 - 19/11/1914 (25)
https://www.tiptonremembers.net/index.p ... ngs-thomas
Dob 1884
CUMMING, THOMAS BROWN
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 30
Baptism
Thomas Cumming
Baptism Date 29 Apr 1885
Baptism Place Warwickshire, England
Baptism Church St Barnabas, Birmingham Father Thomas Cumming
Mother Agnes Brown Cumming
Parents
Thomas Cummings & Agnes Brown
Parents Marriage married in Scotland in 1877
Marriage 4/8/1908 Birmingham
Mabel Butler
Birth of son Samuel Thomas 1909 Aston O6D 328 has mother as Butler
1911 15 Court 3 House, Back 187 Park Road, Aston, Birmingham.
Thomas Cummings (27, Iron Moulder, born Birmingham), his wife Mabel (22, born Birmingham), and thier son: Samuel Thomas (2, born Birmingham).
WW1 Records
Private 8763 Thomas Cummings
DOB 1889 Birmingham
Killed in Action on Tuesday, 19th November 1914, age 25.
Commemorated on Panel 8 and 9 of Ploegsteert Memorial, Comines-Warneton, Hainaut, Belgium.
2nd Bn., Durham Light Infantry. 18th Brigade of 6th Division.
Wife Mabel Fletcher (looks like she remarried formerly Cummings), of 23, Queen St., Princes End, Tipton, Staffs.
Soldier's Papers at National Archives survived and transcribed.
Commemorated on the St. John's Memorial.
WWI Pension Record Cards
Relation to Soldier Thomas Cumming
Mabel. Cumming Widow
Samuel Thomas Cumming Child
James Cumming Child
Dod 19/11/1914 (25)
Burial Thomas has no known grave
www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1642224/
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/126 ... s-cummings
Commemorated on Panel 8 and 9 of Ploegsteert Memorial, Comines-Warneton, Hainaut, Belgium.
& St Johns Memorial
Any other info
Thomas Cummings is recorded on Tipton Remembers site because he is commemorated on the St. John's Memorial, put there by his wife Mabel. It seems that his only Tipton connection is that by 1919 his wife had re-married and moved to Tipton. Thomas was born in Birmingham and was living there in 1911, although may have been living in Falkirk in 1914.
By 1919 his widow Mabel had re-married now Fletcher. With Thomas's 2 children Samuel and James, she was living at 42 Lorne Street, Princes End, Tipton
viewtopic.php?p=215965&hilit=Thomas+Cummings#p215965
Private 8763 Thomas Cummings
1884 - 19/11/1914 (25)
https://www.tiptonremembers.net/index.p ... ngs-thomas
Dob 1884
CUMMING, THOMAS BROWN
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 30
Baptism
Thomas Cumming
Baptism Date 29 Apr 1885
Baptism Place Warwickshire, England
Baptism Church St Barnabas, Birmingham Father Thomas Cumming
Mother Agnes Brown Cumming
Parents
Thomas Cummings & Agnes Brown
Parents Marriage married in Scotland in 1877
Marriage 4/8/1908 Birmingham
Mabel Butler
Birth of son Samuel Thomas 1909 Aston O6D 328 has mother as Butler
1911 15 Court 3 House, Back 187 Park Road, Aston, Birmingham.
Thomas Cummings (27, Iron Moulder, born Birmingham), his wife Mabel (22, born Birmingham), and thier son: Samuel Thomas (2, born Birmingham).
WW1 Records
Private 8763 Thomas Cummings
DOB 1889 Birmingham
Killed in Action on Tuesday, 19th November 1914, age 25.
Commemorated on Panel 8 and 9 of Ploegsteert Memorial, Comines-Warneton, Hainaut, Belgium.
2nd Bn., Durham Light Infantry. 18th Brigade of 6th Division.
Wife Mabel Fletcher (looks like she remarried formerly Cummings), of 23, Queen St., Princes End, Tipton, Staffs.
Soldier's Papers at National Archives survived and transcribed.
Commemorated on the St. John's Memorial.
WWI Pension Record Cards
Relation to Soldier Thomas Cumming
Mabel. Cumming Widow
Samuel Thomas Cumming Child
James Cumming Child
Dod 19/11/1914 (25)
Burial Thomas has no known grave
www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1642224/
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/126 ... s-cummings
Commemorated on Panel 8 and 9 of Ploegsteert Memorial, Comines-Warneton, Hainaut, Belgium.
& St Johns Memorial
Any other info
Thomas Cummings is recorded on Tipton Remembers site because he is commemorated on the St. John's Memorial, put there by his wife Mabel. It seems that his only Tipton connection is that by 1919 his wife had re-married and moved to Tipton. Thomas was born in Birmingham and was living there in 1911, although may have been living in Falkirk in 1914.
By 1919 his widow Mabel had re-married now Fletcher. With Thomas's 2 children Samuel and James, she was living at 42 Lorne Street, Princes End, Tipton
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Re: Mabel Butler
Mabels 2nd marriage
Marriage 25/11/1917 christ church Coseley
Thomas Henry Fletcher
Mabel Cummings
Registration Date Oct 1917
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Dudley
Inferred County Worcestershire
Spouse Thomas H Fletcher
Volume Number 6b Page number 1622
Staffordshire Coseley
Church name Christ Church
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 273
Marriage date 25 Nov 1917
Groom forename Thomas Henry
Groom surname FLETCHER
Groom age 27
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Dresser
Groom abode Princes End
Bride forename Mabel
Bride surname CUMMINGS
Bride age 30
Bride condition widow
Bride abode 42 Lorne St.
Groom father forename Joseph
Groom father surname FLETCHER
Groom father occupation Miner
Bride father forename Alfred ??
Bride father surname BUTLER
Bride father occupation Tool Setter
Witness 1 Arthur GILDER
Witness 2 Annie ROSE
Notes The father of the bride is deceased.
Marriage 25/11/1917 christ church Coseley
Thomas Henry Fletcher
Mabel Cummings
Registration Date Oct 1917
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Dudley
Inferred County Worcestershire
Spouse Thomas H Fletcher
Volume Number 6b Page number 1622
Staffordshire Coseley
Church name Christ Church
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 273
Marriage date 25 Nov 1917
Groom forename Thomas Henry
Groom surname FLETCHER
Groom age 27
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Dresser
Groom abode Princes End
Bride forename Mabel
Bride surname CUMMINGS
Bride age 30
Bride condition widow
Bride abode 42 Lorne St.
Groom father forename Joseph
Groom father surname FLETCHER
Groom father occupation Miner
Bride father forename Alfred ??
Bride father surname BUTLER
Bride father occupation Tool Setter
Witness 1 Arthur GILDER
Witness 2 Annie ROSE
Notes The father of the bride is deceased.
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Re: Mabel Butler
Mabel is still with parents in 1911mjay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 17, 2026 3:17 pm Mabel Butler 1889 - ??
Dob 1889
Name Mabel Butler
Registration Date 1889
Quarter of the Year Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Place Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Volume 6c Page 49
Baptism
Mabel Butler
Gender Female
Baptism Date 21 Feb 1889
Baptism Place St Martin's, Tipton, Stafford, England
Father Thomas Butler
Mother Clara
FHL Film Number1526134
Parents
Thomas Butler & Clara Langford
Parents Marriage
19/12/1886 St Martin Tipton
Thomas Butler
Marriage Age21
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1865
Residence Place 202Nd Horseley Heath
Father Joseph Butler
Spouse Clara Langford
Marriage Age 21
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1865
Residence Place Brierley Hill
Marriage Date19 Dec 1886
Marriage Place Tipton, St Martin, Staffordshire, England
Father Eli Langford
Religion Anglican
Page number 224
1891 233 Horsley Heath Tipton
Thomas Butler 26 Head Fitter
Clara Butler 25 Wife
Maud Butler 4 Daughter
Mabel Butler 2 Daughter
All born Tipton
1901 5 Brick kiln St Dudley
Thomas Butler 36 Head Metal ?? Fitter
Clara Butler 35 Wife
Maude Butler 14 Daughter
Mabel Butler 12 Daughter
Clara Butler 8 Daughter
Joseph Butler 6 Son
Eliza Butler 3 Daughter
Minnie Butler 1 Daughter
Marriage 4/8/1909 B/Ham
1911 123 Queens Cross, Dudley, Worcestershire
Thomas Butler 46 Head Married Engineers Fitter Born Tipton
Clara Butler 45 Wife Married Born Brierley Hill Married 24 Years 9 Children 8 Living 1 Died
Maud Butler 24 Daughter Single Born Tipton
Mabel Butler 22 Daughter Single General Domestic Servant Born Tipton
Clara Butler 18 Daughter Single General Domestic Servant Born Tipton
Joseph Butler 16 Son Single Engineers Apprentice Born Tipton
Eliza Jane May Butler 13 Daughter School Born Wolverhampton
Minnie Butler 11 Daughter School Born Born Dudley
Arthur Butler 5 Son Born Dudley
Ernest Butler 2 Son Born Dudley
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Re: Mabel Butler
1901 13 Couper Street st. George Birmingham
Alfred Butler 47 Head Mar Tool Maker
Harriet Butler 46 Wife Mar
Alfred Butler 18 Son S Press Worker
Arthur Butler 7 Son
Harriet Butler 20 Daughter S Ammunition Worker
Leah Butler 17 Daughter S Ammunition Worker
Mabel Butler 13 Daughter Press orker
All Born Birmingham
Alfred Butler 47 Head Mar Tool Maker
Harriet Butler 46 Wife Mar
Alfred Butler 18 Son S Press Worker
Arthur Butler 7 Son
Harriet Butler 20 Daughter S Ammunition Worker
Leah Butler 17 Daughter S Ammunition Worker
Mabel Butler 13 Daughter Press orker
All Born Birmingham
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Re: Mabel Butler
Mabel is still with parents in 1911
1911 123 Queens Cross, Dudley, Worcestershire
Thomas Butler 46 Head Married Engineers Fitter Born Tipton
Clara Butler 45 Wife Married Born Brierley Hill Married 24 Years 9 Children 8 Living 1 Died
Maud Butler 24 Daughter Single Born Tipton
Mabel Butler 22 Daughter Single General Domestic Servant Born Tipton
Clara Butler 18 Daughter Single General Domestic Servant Born Tipton
Joseph Butler 16 Son Single Engineers Apprentice Born Tipton
Eliza Jane May Butler 13 Daughter School Born Wolverhampton
Minnie Butler 11 Daughter School Born Born Dudley
Arthur Butler 5 Son Born Dudley
Ernest Butler 2 Son Born Dudley
Thanks Kd
Are you thinking I've found the wrong Mabel ?
I've gone through this again and I'm still coming up with the same info for mabel
1911 123 Queens Cross, Dudley, Worcestershire
Thomas Butler 46 Head Married Engineers Fitter Born Tipton
Clara Butler 45 Wife Married Born Brierley Hill Married 24 Years 9 Children 8 Living 1 Died
Maud Butler 24 Daughter Single Born Tipton
Mabel Butler 22 Daughter Single General Domestic Servant Born Tipton
Clara Butler 18 Daughter Single General Domestic Servant Born Tipton
Joseph Butler 16 Son Single Engineers Apprentice Born Tipton
Eliza Jane May Butler 13 Daughter School Born Wolverhampton
Minnie Butler 11 Daughter School Born Born Dudley
Arthur Butler 5 Son Born Dudley
Ernest Butler 2 Son Born Dudley
Thanks Kd
Are you thinking I've found the wrong Mabel ?
I've gone through this again and I'm still coming up with the same info for mabel
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Re: Mabel Butler
I think you have the wrong Mabel as she is still living with parents in 1911. where did you get the date of marriage fromfor Mabel and Thomas Cummings ?
BUTLER, MALVINA MABEL HERBERT
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 159
1901 13 Couper Street st. George Birmingham
Alfred Butler 47 Head Mar Tool Maker
Harriet Butler 46 Wife Mar
Alfred Butler 18 Son S Press Worker
Arthur Butler 7 Son
Harriet Butler 20 Daughter S Ammunition Worker
Leah Butler 17 Daughter S Ammunition Worker
Mabel Butler 13 Daughter Press orker
All Born Birmingham
The Mabel that married Thomas Fletcher has father Alfred not Thomas
Freereg
Staffordshire
Coseley
Christ Church
Parish Register
Register entry number 273
Marriage date 25 Nov 1917
Thomas Henry FLETCHER 27 bachelor Dresser Princes End Joseph FLETCHER Miner
Mabel CUMMINGS 30 widow 42 Lorne St. Alfred BUTLER Tool Setter
Witness 1 Arthur GILDER
Witness 2 Annie ROSE
Notes The father of the bride is deceased.
1921 42 Lorne Street, Princes End, Staffs
Thomas Henry Fletcher 30 Years 11 Months Head Married Born Coseley Iron Casting resser Horseley Heath Foundry
Mabel Milvenus Fletcher 34 Years 10 Months Wife Married Born Birmingham Home Duties
Thomas Sam Cummings 12 Years 5 Months Stepson (Step Son) Father Dead Born Birmingham Education Whole Time
James Cumings 7 Years 1 Month Stepson (Step Son) Father Dead Born ?(Could be Stirlingshire
Gladys Fletcher 1 Year 9 Months Daughter Born Coseley
1939 12 Lorne Street Coseley
Thomas Fletcher Male 11 Jul 1889 M Dresser
Mable Fletcher Female 4 Aug 1886 M Unpaid Domestic Duties
Gladys Fletcher Female 16 Sept 1919 S Capstan Lathe Hand (NOT LISTED BUT ON CENSUS IMAGE)
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
James Cummings Male 31 May 1914 S Crane Driver
Albert Fletcher Male 3 Mar 1890 S Engineer
Mary Banford (Smith) Female 4 Feb 1919 Capstan Lathe Hand
BUTLER, MALVINA MABEL HERBERT
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 159
1901 13 Couper Street st. George Birmingham
Alfred Butler 47 Head Mar Tool Maker
Harriet Butler 46 Wife Mar
Alfred Butler 18 Son S Press Worker
Arthur Butler 7 Son
Harriet Butler 20 Daughter S Ammunition Worker
Leah Butler 17 Daughter S Ammunition Worker
Mabel Butler 13 Daughter Press orker
All Born Birmingham
The Mabel that married Thomas Fletcher has father Alfred not Thomas
Freereg
Staffordshire
Coseley
Christ Church
Parish Register
Register entry number 273
Marriage date 25 Nov 1917
Thomas Henry FLETCHER 27 bachelor Dresser Princes End Joseph FLETCHER Miner
Mabel CUMMINGS 30 widow 42 Lorne St. Alfred BUTLER Tool Setter
Witness 1 Arthur GILDER
Witness 2 Annie ROSE
Notes The father of the bride is deceased.
1921 42 Lorne Street, Princes End, Staffs
Thomas Henry Fletcher 30 Years 11 Months Head Married Born Coseley Iron Casting resser Horseley Heath Foundry
Mabel Milvenus Fletcher 34 Years 10 Months Wife Married Born Birmingham Home Duties
Thomas Sam Cummings 12 Years 5 Months Stepson (Step Son) Father Dead Born Birmingham Education Whole Time
James Cumings 7 Years 1 Month Stepson (Step Son) Father Dead Born ?(Could be Stirlingshire
Gladys Fletcher 1 Year 9 Months Daughter Born Coseley
1939 12 Lorne Street Coseley
Thomas Fletcher Male 11 Jul 1889 M Dresser
Mable Fletcher Female 4 Aug 1886 M Unpaid Domestic Duties
Gladys Fletcher Female 16 Sept 1919 S Capstan Lathe Hand (NOT LISTED BUT ON CENSUS IMAGE)
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
James Cummings Male 31 May 1914 S Crane Driver
Albert Fletcher Male 3 Mar 1890 S Engineer
Mary Banford (Smith) Female 4 Feb 1919 Capstan Lathe Hand
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Re: Mabel Butler
Thanks Kd
Or couldnt her father have added her to his 1911 census by mistake after she'd married Thomas
1911 15 Court 3 House, Back 187 Park Road, Aston, Birmingham.
Thomas Cummings (27, Iron Moulder, born Birmingham), his wife Mabel (22, born Birmingham), and thier son: Samuel Thomas (2, born Birmingham).
Birth of son Samuel Thomas 1909 Aston O6D 328 has mother as Butler
Another confusing post
Everything I've posted is from Tipton Remembers page my previous post above, war records online and Ancestry
I do always go through them.
Thomas Cummings
viewtopic.php?p=215965&hilit=Thomas+Cummings#p215965
Private 8763 Thomas Cummings
1884 - 19/11/1914 (25)
https://www.tiptonremembers.net/index.p ... ngs-thomas
www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1642224/
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/126 ... s-cummin
WWI Pension Record Cards
Relation to Soldier Thomas Cumming
Mabel. Cumming Widow
Samuel Thomas Cumming Child
James Cumming Child
Or couldnt her father have added her to his 1911 census by mistake after she'd married Thomas
1911 15 Court 3 House, Back 187 Park Road, Aston, Birmingham.
Thomas Cummings (27, Iron Moulder, born Birmingham), his wife Mabel (22, born Birmingham), and thier son: Samuel Thomas (2, born Birmingham).
Birth of son Samuel Thomas 1909 Aston O6D 328 has mother as Butler
Another confusing post
Everything I've posted is from Tipton Remembers page my previous post above, war records online and Ancestry
I do always go through them.
Thomas Cummings
viewtopic.php?p=215965&hilit=Thomas+Cummings#p215965
Private 8763 Thomas Cummings
1884 - 19/11/1914 (25)
https://www.tiptonremembers.net/index.p ... ngs-thomas
www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1642224/
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/126 ... s-cummin
WWI Pension Record Cards
Relation to Soldier Thomas Cumming
Mabel. Cumming Widow
Samuel Thomas Cumming Child
James Cumming Child
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Re: Mabel Butler
Shame to waste a good look up, so when i get chance I might start a new post with this info
mjay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 17, 2026 3:17 pm Mabel Butler 1889 - ??
Dob 1889
Name Mabel Butler
Registration Date 1889
Quarter of the Year Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Place Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Volume 6c Page 49
Baptism
Mabel Butler
Gender Female
Baptism Date 21 Feb 1889
Baptism Place St Martin's, Tipton, Stafford, England
Father Thomas Butler
Mother Clara
FHL Film Number1526134
Parents
Thomas Butler & Clara Langford
Parents Marriage
19/12/1886 St Martin Tipton
Thomas Butler
Marriage Age21
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1865
Residence Place 202Nd Horseley Heath
Father Joseph Butler
Spouse Clara Langford
Marriage Age 21
Record Type Marriage
Birth Date abt 1865
Residence Place Brierley Hill
Marriage Date19 Dec 1886
Marriage Place Tipton, St Martin, Staffordshire, England
Father Eli Langford
Religion Anglican
Page number 224
1891 233 Horsley Heath Tipton
Thomas Butler 26 Head Fitter
Clara Butler 25 Wife
Maud Butler 4 Daughter
Mabel Butler 2 Daughter
All born Tipton
1901 5 Brick kiln St Dudley
Thomas Butler 36 Head Metal ?? Fitter
Clara Butler 35 Wife
Maude Butler 14 Daughter
Mabel Butler 12 Daughter
Clara Butler 8 Daughter
Joseph Butler 6 Son
Eliza Butler 3 Daughter
Minnie Butler 1 Daughter
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Re: Mabel Butler Trying to separate post it's getting Confusing
I've started a post for Thomas Cummings so we can add the right spouse Mabel
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Re: Mabel Butler Trying to separate post it's getting Confusing
This is Mabel with father Thomas
BUTLER, MABEL LANGFORD
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 49
Freereg
Tipton
St Martin
Parish Register
Register entry number 2346
Baptism date 21 Feb 1889
Person forename Mabel
Person sex F
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Clara
Father surname BUTLER
Person abode Horseley Heath
Father occupation Fitter
Parents Marriage
Freereg
Tipton
St Martin
Parish Register
Register entry number 448
Marriage date 19 Dec 1886
Thomas BUTLER 21 bachelor Fitter 202 Horseley Heath Joseph BUTLER Fitter
Clara LANGFORD 21 spinster Brierley Hill Eli LANGFORD Puddler
Witness1 Josiah NIKLASS
Witness2 Lizzie BUTLER
Notes Bride signs by mark
1891 233 Horsley Heath Tipton
Thomas Butler 26 Head Fitter
Clara Butler 25 Wife
Maud Butler 4 Daughter
Mabel Butler 2 Daughter
All born Tipton
1901 5 Brick kiln St Dudley
Thomas Butler 36 Head Metal ?? Fitter
Clara Butler 35 Wife
Maude Butler 14 Daughter
Mabel Butler 12 Daughter
Clara Butler 8 Daughter
Joseph Butler 6 Son
Eliza Butler 3 Daughter
Minnie Butler 1 Daughter
1911 123 Queens Cross, Dudley, Worcestershire
Thomas Butler 46 Head Married Engineers Fitter Born Tipton
Clara Butler 45 Wife Married Born Brierley Hill Married 24 Years 9 Children 8 Living 1 Died
Maud Butler 24 Daughter Single Born Tipton
Mabel Butler 22 Daughter Single General Domestic Servant Born Tipton
Clara Butler 18 Daughter Single General Domestic Servant Born Tipton
Joseph Butler 16 Son Single Engineers Apprentice Born Tipton
Eliza Jane May Butler 13 Daughter School Born Wolverhampton
Minnie Butler 11 Daughter School Born Born Dudley
Arthur Butler 5 Son Born Dudley
Ernest Butler 2 Son Born Dudley
1921 13 New Street, Stourport
Mary Stokes 54 Years 7 Months Head Widow Born Shropshire Boarding House Keeper 13 New Street Stourport
George Stokes 39 Son Single Born Shropshire Gas Works Labourer Gas Works Seven Road Stourport
Thomas Stokes 38 Son Single Born Shropshire Brick Layers Labourer Housing Committee Kidderminster Hurcott Road Kidderminster
William George Birch 34 Years 4 Months Son-in-law Married Born Worcestershire Stourport Cardroom Jobber(Out of Work) J B worth & Sons Carpet Manufactures Severn Road Stourport
Jane Birch 33 Years 9 Months Daughter Married Born Shropshire Married Born Shropshire Home Duties
Thomas George Riley Birch 13 Years 6 Months Grandson Born Stourport Education Whole Time
Beatrice Mary Birch 8 Years 9 Months Granddaughter Born Stourport Education Whole Time
Carlyle May Birch 2 Years 8 Months Granddaughter Born Stourprot
John D Cubbon 32 Boarder Single Born Isle Of Man Carpenter Joiner Staffordshire Worcestershire Canal Company York Street Stourport
Mabel Butler 32 Years 5 Months Visitor Single Born Tipton General Domestic Servant Out of Work
Marriage Image on Ancestry
St John the Baptist Kidderminster
3 March 1923 John Haycock Widow er Caster 51 Hemming Street Thomas Haycock Horse Keeper
Mabel Butler 34 Spinster 6 Blakebrook Thomas Butler Fitter and Turner
Wit 1 John Bertram Barker
Wit Maud Butler
All Signed
1939 51 Hemming Street Kidderminster
John Haycox Male 21 Jul 1875 M Coal Carter Heavy Work
Mabel Haycox Female 19 Jan 1889 M Unpaid Domestic Duties
Madge Haycox [Madge Price ]Female 1 Jun 1921 S Carpet Parer
This record is officially closed.
Cyril Haycox Male 6 Jan 1924 S Butchers Assistant
Name Mabel Haycox
Death Age 88 [88]
Birth Date 19 Jan 1889
Registration Date Apr 1977 [May 1977] [Jun 1977]
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Kidderminster
Inferred County Hereford and Worcester
Volume 29
Page 0511
Name Mabel Haycox
Death Age 88
Birth Date abt 1889
Death Date abt 1977
Burial Date 23 Jun 1977
Burial Place Kidderminster, St John Baptist, Worcestershire, England
Parish as it Appears St John's Kidderminster
Name John Haycox
Death Age 71
Birth Date abt 1876
Registration Date Jul 1947 [Aug 1947] [Sep 1947]
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Kidderminster
Inferred County Worcestershire
Volume 9d
Page 89
Name John Haycox
Death Age 71
Birth Date abt 1876
Death Date abt 1947
Burial Date 19 Jul 1947
Burial Place Kidderminster, St John Baptist, Worcestershire, England
Parish as it Appears Kidderminster
Looks like Madge was born before Mabel married
BUTLER, MADGE -
GRO Reference: 1921 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 199
Marriage cert on Ancestry
St Mary & All Saints Kidderminster
1 Feb 1947
Philip William Price 24 Bachelor Butcher 2 Washington Street Worcester William Price Railway Worker
Madge Butler Haycock 25 Spinster Carpet Worker 54 Franche Road Kidderminster John Haycock Carpet Worker
Wit1 Cyri Haycock
Wit 2 Les Haycock
All signed
Name Mrs Madge Price
Death Age 91
Death Date 30 Sep 2012
Burial Date 19 Oct 2012
Cemetery Stourbridge Crematorium
Burial Place Dudley, England
Burial Type Cremation - Committal
Religion Church of England
Funeral Director B. Ince
Certificate Number 76175
Name Philip William Price
Death Age 69 [69]
Birth Date 9 Jun 1922
Registration Date Apr 1992
Registration District Kidderminster
Inferred County Hereford and Worcester
Volume 29
Page 446
Name Cyril Haycox
Registration Date Jan 1924 [Feb 1924] [Mar 1924]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Kidderminster
Inferred County Hereford & Worcester
Mother's Maiden Name Butler
Volume Number 6c
Page number 136
Marriage Cert on Ancestry
St. John the Baptist Kidderminster
1 March 1947
John Haycock 23 Bachelor Forgeman 51 Hemming Street Kidderminster John Haycock Retired
Margaret Dorothy James 22 Spinster Machinist 66 Cobden Street Kidderminster William Albert James Carpet Passer
Wit 1 WilliamAlbert James
Wit 2 John Haycock
All Signed
Name Cyril Haycox
Death Age 81 [81]
Birth Date 6 Jan 1924
Registration Date Mar 2005
Registration District Malvern
Inferred County Worcestershire
Register Number 35D
District and Subdistrict 521/1
Entry Number 133
Name Margaret Dorothy Haycox
Death Age 54 [54]
Birth Date 14 Dec 1924
Registration Date Jan 1979 [Feb 1979] [Mar 1979]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Kidderminster
Inferred County Hereford and Worcester
Volume 29
Page 0561
BUTLER, MABEL LANGFORD
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 49
Freereg
Tipton
St Martin
Parish Register
Register entry number 2346
Baptism date 21 Feb 1889
Person forename Mabel
Person sex F
Father forename Thomas
Mother forename Clara
Father surname BUTLER
Person abode Horseley Heath
Father occupation Fitter
Parents Marriage
Freereg
Tipton
St Martin
Parish Register
Register entry number 448
Marriage date 19 Dec 1886
Thomas BUTLER 21 bachelor Fitter 202 Horseley Heath Joseph BUTLER Fitter
Clara LANGFORD 21 spinster Brierley Hill Eli LANGFORD Puddler
Witness1 Josiah NIKLASS
Witness2 Lizzie BUTLER
Notes Bride signs by mark
1891 233 Horsley Heath Tipton
Thomas Butler 26 Head Fitter
Clara Butler 25 Wife
Maud Butler 4 Daughter
Mabel Butler 2 Daughter
All born Tipton
1901 5 Brick kiln St Dudley
Thomas Butler 36 Head Metal ?? Fitter
Clara Butler 35 Wife
Maude Butler 14 Daughter
Mabel Butler 12 Daughter
Clara Butler 8 Daughter
Joseph Butler 6 Son
Eliza Butler 3 Daughter
Minnie Butler 1 Daughter
1911 123 Queens Cross, Dudley, Worcestershire
Thomas Butler 46 Head Married Engineers Fitter Born Tipton
Clara Butler 45 Wife Married Born Brierley Hill Married 24 Years 9 Children 8 Living 1 Died
Maud Butler 24 Daughter Single Born Tipton
Mabel Butler 22 Daughter Single General Domestic Servant Born Tipton
Clara Butler 18 Daughter Single General Domestic Servant Born Tipton
Joseph Butler 16 Son Single Engineers Apprentice Born Tipton
Eliza Jane May Butler 13 Daughter School Born Wolverhampton
Minnie Butler 11 Daughter School Born Born Dudley
Arthur Butler 5 Son Born Dudley
Ernest Butler 2 Son Born Dudley
1921 13 New Street, Stourport
Mary Stokes 54 Years 7 Months Head Widow Born Shropshire Boarding House Keeper 13 New Street Stourport
George Stokes 39 Son Single Born Shropshire Gas Works Labourer Gas Works Seven Road Stourport
Thomas Stokes 38 Son Single Born Shropshire Brick Layers Labourer Housing Committee Kidderminster Hurcott Road Kidderminster
William George Birch 34 Years 4 Months Son-in-law Married Born Worcestershire Stourport Cardroom Jobber(Out of Work) J B worth & Sons Carpet Manufactures Severn Road Stourport
Jane Birch 33 Years 9 Months Daughter Married Born Shropshire Married Born Shropshire Home Duties
Thomas George Riley Birch 13 Years 6 Months Grandson Born Stourport Education Whole Time
Beatrice Mary Birch 8 Years 9 Months Granddaughter Born Stourport Education Whole Time
Carlyle May Birch 2 Years 8 Months Granddaughter Born Stourprot
John D Cubbon 32 Boarder Single Born Isle Of Man Carpenter Joiner Staffordshire Worcestershire Canal Company York Street Stourport
Mabel Butler 32 Years 5 Months Visitor Single Born Tipton General Domestic Servant Out of Work
Marriage Image on Ancestry
St John the Baptist Kidderminster
3 March 1923 John Haycock Widow er Caster 51 Hemming Street Thomas Haycock Horse Keeper
Mabel Butler 34 Spinster 6 Blakebrook Thomas Butler Fitter and Turner
Wit 1 John Bertram Barker
Wit Maud Butler
All Signed
1939 51 Hemming Street Kidderminster
John Haycox Male 21 Jul 1875 M Coal Carter Heavy Work
Mabel Haycox Female 19 Jan 1889 M Unpaid Domestic Duties
Madge Haycox [Madge Price ]Female 1 Jun 1921 S Carpet Parer
This record is officially closed.
Cyril Haycox Male 6 Jan 1924 S Butchers Assistant
Name Mabel Haycox
Death Age 88 [88]
Birth Date 19 Jan 1889
Registration Date Apr 1977 [May 1977] [Jun 1977]
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration District Kidderminster
Inferred County Hereford and Worcester
Volume 29
Page 0511
Name Mabel Haycox
Death Age 88
Birth Date abt 1889
Death Date abt 1977
Burial Date 23 Jun 1977
Burial Place Kidderminster, St John Baptist, Worcestershire, England
Parish as it Appears St John's Kidderminster
Name John Haycox
Death Age 71
Birth Date abt 1876
Registration Date Jul 1947 [Aug 1947] [Sep 1947]
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District Kidderminster
Inferred County Worcestershire
Volume 9d
Page 89
Name John Haycox
Death Age 71
Birth Date abt 1876
Death Date abt 1947
Burial Date 19 Jul 1947
Burial Place Kidderminster, St John Baptist, Worcestershire, England
Parish as it Appears Kidderminster
Looks like Madge was born before Mabel married
BUTLER, MADGE -
GRO Reference: 1921 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 199
Marriage cert on Ancestry
St Mary & All Saints Kidderminster
1 Feb 1947
Philip William Price 24 Bachelor Butcher 2 Washington Street Worcester William Price Railway Worker
Madge Butler Haycock 25 Spinster Carpet Worker 54 Franche Road Kidderminster John Haycock Carpet Worker
Wit1 Cyri Haycock
Wit 2 Les Haycock
All signed
Name Mrs Madge Price
Death Age 91
Death Date 30 Sep 2012
Burial Date 19 Oct 2012
Cemetery Stourbridge Crematorium
Burial Place Dudley, England
Burial Type Cremation - Committal
Religion Church of England
Funeral Director B. Ince
Certificate Number 76175
Name Philip William Price
Death Age 69 [69]
Birth Date 9 Jun 1922
Registration Date Apr 1992
Registration District Kidderminster
Inferred County Hereford and Worcester
Volume 29
Page 446
Name Cyril Haycox
Registration Date Jan 1924 [Feb 1924] [Mar 1924]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Kidderminster
Inferred County Hereford & Worcester
Mother's Maiden Name Butler
Volume Number 6c
Page number 136
Marriage Cert on Ancestry
St. John the Baptist Kidderminster
1 March 1947
John Haycock 23 Bachelor Forgeman 51 Hemming Street Kidderminster John Haycock Retired
Margaret Dorothy James 22 Spinster Machinist 66 Cobden Street Kidderminster William Albert James Carpet Passer
Wit 1 WilliamAlbert James
Wit 2 John Haycock
All Signed
Name Cyril Haycox
Death Age 81 [81]
Birth Date 6 Jan 1924
Registration Date Mar 2005
Registration District Malvern
Inferred County Worcestershire
Register Number 35D
District and Subdistrict 521/1
Entry Number 133
Name Margaret Dorothy Haycox
Death Age 54 [54]
Birth Date 14 Dec 1924
Registration Date Jan 1979 [Feb 1979] [Mar 1979]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District Kidderminster
Inferred County Hereford and Worcester
Volume 29
Page 0561
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Re: Mabel Butler Trying to separate post it's getting Confusing
Thanks so much Kd
With all the info you've found I've started a new post for Mabel Butler whose father is Thomas Butler
With all the info you've found I've started a new post for Mabel Butler whose father is Thomas Butler
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Re: Mabel Butler
kdwoodie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 18, 2026 1:58 pm Am i right in thinking that this is Mabel Butler who married Thomas Cummings then remarried Thomas Fletcher
BUTLER, MALVINA MABEL HERBERT
GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 159
1901 13 Couper Street st. George Birmingham
Alfred Butler 47 Head Mar Tool Maker
Harriet Butler 46 Wife Mar
Alfred Butler 18 Son S Press Worker
Arthur Butler 7 Son
Harriet Butler 20 Daughter S Ammunition Worker
Leah Butler 17 Daughter S Ammunition Worker
Mabel Butler 13 Daughter Press orker
All Born Birmingham
1911 15 Court 3 House, Back 187 Park Road, Aston, Birmingham.
Thomas Cummings (27, Iron Moulder, born Birmingham), his wife Mabel (22, born Birmingham), and thier son: Samuel Thomas (2, born Birmingham).
WWI Pension Record Cards
Relation to Soldier Thomas Cumming
Mabel. Cumming Widow
Samuel Thomas Cumming Child
James Cumming Child
Freereg
Staffordshire
Coseley
Christ Church
Parish Register
Register entry number 273
Marriage date 25 Nov 1917
Thomas Henry FLETCHER 27 bachelor Dresser Princes End Joseph FLETCHER Miner
Mabel CUMMINGS 30 widow 42 Lorne St. Alfred BUTLER Tool Setter
Witness 1 Arthur GILDER
Witness 2 Annie ROSE
Notes The father of the bride is deceased.
1921 42 Lorne Street, Princes End, Staffs
Thomas Henry Fletcher 30 Years 11 Months Head Married Born Coseley Iron Casting resser Horseley Heath Foundry
Mabel Milvenus Fletcher 34 Years 10 Months Wife Married Born Birmingham Home Duties
Thomas Sam Cummings 12 Years 5 Months Stepson (Step Son) Father Dead Born Birmingham Education Whole Time
James Cumings 7 Years 1 Month Stepson (Step Son) Father Dead Born ?(Could be Stirlingshire
Gladys Fletcher 1 Year 9 Months Daughter Born Coseley
1939 12 Lorne Street Coseley
Thomas Fletcher Male 11 Jul 1889 M Dresser
Mable Fletcher Female 4 Aug 1886 M Unpaid Domestic Duties
Gladys Fletcher Female 16 Sept 1919 S Capstan Lathe Hand (NOT LISTED BUT ON CENSUS IMAGE)
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
James Cummings Male 31 May 1914 S Crane Driver
Albert Fletcher Male 3 Mar 1890 S Engineer
Mary Banford (Smith) Female 4 Feb 1919 Capstan Lathe Hand
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Re: Mabel Butler Trying to separate post it's getting Confusing
We got there in the end eh Kd
I think this ones completed now we've separated them
I think this ones completed now we've separated them
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