Edwin Johnson (1835) marriage and death

[Frodo]

I have been looking at Edwin Johnson, son of Sarah Jemima Taylor on Ancestry and all Family Trees have her marrying an Emma Davies but with no evidence.

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... onnections

On the 1871 Census and subsequent Censuses up to 1901 Edward is married to an Emma, I have been unable to source the 1861 Census so the marriage is sometime between 1851 and 1871. Emma on the 1871 Census comes from Chaddesley Corbett and is 31.
There is a marriage between an Edwin Johnson and an Emma Beddall at Old Swinford in 1858 and the Worcestershire Marriages and Banns show one of the witnesses as Ellen Johnson which is the name of one of his sisters so I am wondering if this is the correct Emma.
If I look up Emma Beddall there is an Emma Beddall age 3 living in Chaddesley in the 1841 Census but with a James and Sarah Norris.
I don't know whether this is the only Emma.
Others also have Edwin dying in 1904 but again with no evidence although I haven't found a 1911 Census entry for him.
Could anyone find confirmation of this date please

[gardener]

1871 census has Edwin with :Spouse Emma Johnson
Children Harry Johnson, Elizabeth Johnson, Frank Johnson, Sarah Johnson

These births fit the years, so the marriage you have looks OK

JOHNSON, FRANK BEDDALL
GRO Reference: 1866 D Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 250

JOHNSON, ELIZABETH BEDDALL
GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 243

JOHNSON, HENRY BEDHALL
GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 205

and perhaps an earlier one who may have died

JOHNSON, WILLIAM BEDHULL
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 236

[gardener]

Event Date 1861
Event Place Chaddesley Corbett, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom

Edward Johnson M
25 years
Belbroughton, Worcestershire

Emma Johnson F 23 years
Chaddesley, Worcestershire

[kdwoodie]

This is what i have found so far

Worcestershire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1947
Parish Church Kidderminster
8th September 1839
James Norris of Full Age Bachelor Labourer Worcester Cross James Norris Labourer
Sarah Bedall of Full Age Spinster Worcester Cross
Wit 1 Elizabeth Baker X
Wit 2 William Merryman X
Bride and Groom both sign X

1841 Cakebowl Chaddesley Corbett
James Norris 35 Ag Lab
Sarah Norris 20
Emma Beddall 3
Henry Morris 5 Mo
All Born in County

1851 Chaddesley Corbett
James Norriss 46 Head Mar Agricultural Labourer Born Chaddesley
Sarah Norriss 36 Wife Mar Born Bromsgrove
Emma Norriss 12 Daughter Born Chaddesley
Harry Norriss 10 Son Born Chaddesley
Ann Norriss 5 Daughter Born Chaddesley
James Norriss 2 Son Born Chaddesley (Twins)
Jane Norriss 3 Daughter Born Chaddesley (2 on imageTwins )

No Biths foound for Emma , Henry or William

NORRISS, ELIZABETH BEDALL
GRO Reference: 1843 D Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 371

NORRISS, ANN BEDDAL
GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 425

NORRISS, JAMES BEDALL
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 417
NORRISS, JANE BEDALL
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 18 Page 417

NORRIS, FREDERICK BEDDALE
GRO Reference: 1854 M Quarter in KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 239

Worcestershire, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1812-1922
Chaddesley Corbett
5th Jan 1841
Henry son of James and Sarah Norris Cakebowl Labourer

Chaddesley Corbett
2 Dec 1843
Elizabeth Daughter of James and Sarah Norris Lower Chaddesley Labourer

Chaddesley Corbett
20th Marc 1846
Ann Daughter of James and Sarah Norris Chaddesley Labourer

Chaddesley Corbett
31st January 1849
James Son of James and Sarah Norris Chaddesley Labourer
Jane Daughter of James and Sarah Norris Chaddesley Labourer

Chaddesley Corbett
15th June 1851
William son of James and Sarah Norris Chaddesley Labourer

Chaddesley Corbett
5th March 1854
Frederick son of James and Sarah Norris Chaddesley Labourer

Freereg
Worcestershire
Place (Links to more information) Oldswinford
St Mary
Parish Register
Register entry number 209
Marriage date 17 Oct 1858
Edwin JOHNSON 23 bachelor Labourer Withy Bank William JOHNSON Labourer
Emma BEDDALL 20 spinster Withy Bank James BEDDALL Labourer
Witness1 Jesson REED
Witness2 Ellen JOHNSON

1861 Drayton Chaddesley Corbett
Edward Johnson 25 Head Mar Ag Lab Born Belbroughton
Emma Johnson 23 Wife Mar Born Chaddesley

1871 Friars Chaddesley Corbett
Edwin Johnson 33 Head Mar Ag Lab Born Belbroughton
Emma Johnson 31 Wife Mar Born Chaddesley Corbett
Harry Johnson 9 Son Scholar Born Chaddesley Corbett
Elizabeth Johnson 6 Daughter Scholar Born Chaddesley Corbett
Frank Johnson 4 Son Scholar Born Chaddesley Corbett
Sarah Johnson 8/12 Daughter Born Chaddesley Corbett

1881 Model Cottage Chaddesley Corbett
Edward Johnson 43 Head Mar Ag Labourer Born Alvechurch
Emma Johnson 42 Wife Mar
Harry Johnson 19 Son Unm Ag Lab
Elizabeth Johnson 16 Daughter Unm Nurse Girl?
Frank Johnson 14 Son Unm Farmers Boy
Sarah Johnson 8 Daughter Scholar
Annie Johnson 7 Daughter Scholar
George Johnson 4 Son
Edwin Johnson 1 Son
Others Born Chaddesley Corbett

1891 ? Farm Ipsley
Carvin Johnson 55 Head M Farm Bailiff Born Alvechurch
Emma Johnson 55 Wife M Born Chaddelsye Corbett
Frank Johnson 34 Son S Bicycle Maker Born Drayton
Sarah Johnson 18 Daughter S Machine R? Maker Born Friars
Anne Johnson 17 Daughter S Packer Box Maker Born Friars
George Johnson 14 Son S Agricultural Labourer Born Wollaston
Edwin Johnson 11 Son Scholar Born Crabbs Cross
Ernest Johnson 7 Son Scholar Born Crabbs Cross
Charles Wadcott 26 Boarder S Carter on Farm Born Camden Gloster

1901 215 Evesham Road Upper Ipsley
Edwin Johnson 65 Head M M Farm Labourer Born Chaddesley Corbett
Emma Johnson 63 Wife Born Chaddesley Corbett
Ernest Johnson 17 SonS Cycle Polisher Born Crabbs Cross


Possible Deaths
Name Edwin Johnson
Age 67
Estimated Birth Year abt 1837
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Death Registration Place Alcester, United Kingdom
Death Date Sep 1904
Inferred Death Place United Kingdom
Volume 6d
Page 422

Name Emma Johnson
Death Age 86
Birth Date abt 1839
Registration Date Jan 1925 [Feb 1925] [Mar 1925]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Alcester
Inferred County Warwickshire
Volume 6d
Page 991

[Jimmy]

FMP.

Henry Norris.
Father's James Norris.
Mother Sarah.
Baptism date 05 Jan 1841.
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Residence Chaddesley-Corbett, Worcester.

[Frodo]

Thanks, that all seems to make sense. Looking at the birth information I presume Emma originally had the surname Beddall because she was illegitimate if she was definitely 3 on the 1841 Census. Rounded up I think she would have been 2 at the time of the Census if she had been born after the marriage.
Was Alcester used a lot for registration in the area, I have seen it used quite a lot by the family.

[gardener]

Was Alcester used a lot for registration in the area, I have seen it used quite a lot by the family.

Births, marriages and deaths had to be registered in the area where they took place.
The 1901 census above has them living in Upper Ipsley, which was in Alcester district:

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/alcester.html

[kdwoodie]

i have added what i can to BCC https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =488649749

[Frodo]

Thank you, I will update my Tree in line with BCC

[Northern Lass]

is this now completed?
unless otherwise advised I will move this to Archived section