John Beddall

[mjay]

9)Private John Beddall
Dob 1889 Netherton Dudley
Staffordshire, England
Volume 6c Page 141

Dod 9/1/1916
Died of wounds
Helles Memorial Part XIII (Turkey) Gallipoli

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156 ... hn-beddall

Worcestershire Regiment 4th Battalion
Service No 19038

Commemorated Helles, Dudley Town & St Johns Kates Hill memorials.

https://menandmemorialsofdudley.co.uk/b ... ddall-john

Parents
John Beddall
Martha Wall

Marriage
BALL Martha
BEDDALL John
1884 Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/010/18

Freereg
Dudley St James
Parish Register
Register entry number 18
Marriage date 26 Oct 1884
Groom forename John
Groom surname BEDDALL
Groom age 20
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Bricklayer
Groom abode Dudley
Bride forename Martha
Bride surname BALL
Bride age 19
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Dudley
Groom father forename John
Groom father occupation Bricklayer
Bride father forename Jabez
Bride father surname BALL
Bride father occupation Collier
Witness1 William RAYBOLD
Witness2 Sarah Ann GARRETT
Notes Bride & Witnesses sign X

[mjay]

1901 28 Simms Lane Dudley
John Beddall 26 Bricklayer
Martha 25 Wife
Julia 14 Daug
John 12 Son
Samuel 9 Son
Sarah 7 Daug
Dora 1 Daug
Rosannah Ball
21 Sister
Mary 18 Sister
All born Dudley

[mjay]

I think this is John Beddall senior and his daughter Sarah on bcc

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=649287

[kdwoodie]

John Beddall who married Martha here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=649287

[mjay]

Parents 1911
46 Hill St Netherton
John Beddall 46 Head Bricklayer
Martha Beddall 45 Wife Labourer
Samuel Beddall 19 Son
Sarah Ann Beddall 17 Daug Housework
Nora Beddall 14 Daug
John Turley 4 Grandson

Can anyone see John in 1911 please

[kdwoodie]

I don't think the John that died is the son of John and Martha.

First name(s) John
Unit / Battalion 6th Battalion
Last name Beddall
Residence town Dudley
Birth year 1887
Series WO 364
Birth town Netherton
Series description Wo 364 - First World War Pension Claims
Birth county Worcestershire
Archive The National Archives
Birth country England
Record set British Army Service Records
Age 27
Category Military Service & Conflict
Year 1914
Subcategory First World War
Service number 9629
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
Regiment Worcestershire Regiment


First name(s) John
Spouse's first name(s) Clara
Last name Beddall
Spouse's last name Jackson
Name note -
Spouse's birth year 1888
Age 20
Spouse's birth date 1888
Marriage year 1908
Spouse's age 20
Marriage date 11 Oct 1908
Spouse's father's first name(s) Abraham
Residence Dudley, Worcester, England
Spouse's father's last name Jackson
Marriage place Dudley
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
County Worcestershire
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Country England
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Father's first name(s) John
Collections from England, Great Britain
Father's last name Beddall

1939 111 High Street, Dudley, Dudley C.B., Worcestershire, England
John Beddall 18 Sep 1887 Male Fruiterer & Green Grocer Married 11 1
Clara Beddall 26 May 1888 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 11 2
Jack Beddall 23 May 1913 Male Examiner Seamless Steel Tube Single 11 3
Clara Taylor 04 Jan 1911 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 11 4
The record for this person is officially closed.



This John was born 1892
Name Pvt John Beddall
Birth Date 2 May 1892
Birth Place Netherton, Metropolitan Borough of Dudley, West Midlands, England
Death Date 9 Jan 1916
Death Place Gallipoli, Çanakkale, Türkiye
Has Bio? Y
URL
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156 ... hn-beddall
The son of Noah Beddall

BEDDALL John GUEST Elizabeth M 1914 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/009/145


Title:
Page 1
Full Name:
Beddall, John
Alias:
[Blank]
Service Number:
19038
Address-Add:
[Blank]
Gender:
Male
Rank:
Pte
Regiment:
4/worcestershire Regt
Relative 1:
Beddall, Elizabeth May
Relative 1 Address:
Kates Hill Dudley
Relative 1 Relation To Head:
Widow
Relative 1 Birth Date:
4 May 1897
Relative 2:
Beddall, Alice
Relative 2 Relation to Head:
Child
Relative 2 Birth Date:
29 Aug 1914
Household ID:
[Blank]
Year Range:
1914 - 1926
Reference Number:
018/0065/BEC-BEE
Archive Location:
London, England
Archive Name:
Western Front Association
Conflict Period:
World War I

[mjay]

Thanks for spotting this Kd

So i don't get any more confused I've tried to break it down.

1)I've Added the first J Beddall to bcc separately.
Will Look for his Parents & any census
Father Noah Beddall
Mother ??

He Married Elizabeth Guest 4 May 1897
*Requested marriage look up 1914
BEDDALL John GUEST Elizabeth M 1914 Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/009/145
daug alice DOb 29 Aug 1914

2)John & Martha on bcc.
Their son John who survived
Dob 1889 Netherton Dudley
Staffordshire, England
Volume 6c Page 141
He married Clara Jackson & served with worcestershire reg too.

Marriage
11 Oct 1908
St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/043/455
J beddall 20
Clara Jackson 20
Father's John Beddall
Abraham Jackson

[kdwoodie]

Correct, perhaps better to start new thread for John with father Noah.

[mjay]

Correct, perhaps better to start new thread for John with father Noah.

Thanks Kd
Seperate post started for John with father Noah.

I think I've changed what I can on bcc for the other John Beddall.

[Jimmy]

There is also a Samuel Beddall son of John and Martha,

https://menandmemorialsofdudley.co.uk/dudley-memorials

Samuel Beddall was the son of John and Martha Beddall of Netherton and was married to Louisa of 46 Hill Street, Netherton. He volunteered for the Worcesters and joined the 1st Battalion on the Western Front. In March 1915 the Worcesters took part in the first attack of the campaigning season at Neuve Chapelle, followed by Aubers Ridge in May. They Armenti?res sector remained relatively quiet but Private Samuel Beddall was killed on the 28th June, probably as a result of enemy shelling. He was 23 years of age and is buried in Sailly-sur-la-Lys Canadian Cemetery II F 125) and commemorated on the Dudley and Netherton Memorials.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1912.
BEDDALL John. HUGHES Louisa. 1912. Dudley Register Office. Dudley Register Office. DRO/032/105.

[Jimmy]

https://menandmemorialsofdudley.co.uk/b ... ddall-john

John Beddall lived at 32 High Street, Kates Hill, Dudley and volunteered for the Worcesters. He was sent to the 4th Battalion who joined the Mediterranean Expeditionary Force which sailed to attack Turkey In March 1915. They landed on the Gallipoli peninsula on the 25th April but in six months of struggle failed to reach the commanding heights. The Worcesters fought four major battles at the village of Krithia and suffered heavy losses. After August the Worcesters moved to Suvla but the terrain forced both sides into trench warfare in the gullies and woods above the bay. It was decided to evacuate the troops and the first evacuation from Suvla was a great success. There were casualties during the second from Helles and these included Private John Beddall. He is commemorated on the Helles, Dudley and St John's church, Kates Hill, Dudley, Memorials.

[kdwoodie]

Clara Jackson is on BCC already

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=649553

Samuel here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=649553


Title:
Page 1
Full Name:
Beddall, Samuel
Alias:
[Blank]
Service Number:
15394
Address-Add:
[Blank]
Rank:
Pte
Regiment:
Worcester 1st
Relative 1:
Beddall, Louisa
Relative 1 Address:
Netherton Dudley Worcestershire
Relative 1 Relation To Head:
Stepmother
Household ID:
[Blank]
Year Range:
1914 - 1926
Reference Number:
018/0065/BEC-BEE
Document Number:
7 De[dts: B581

[mjay]

Thanks Kd and Jimmy
All added except this marriage
(West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1912.
BEDDALL John. HUGHES Louisa. 1912. Dudley Register Office. Dudley Register Office. DRO/032/105)

Should this be Samuel maybe transcribed wrongly ?

[Jimmy]

There is also a Samuel Beddall son of John and Martha,

https://menandmemorialsofdudley.co.uk/dudley-memorials

Samuel Beddall was the son of John and Martha Beddall of Netherton and was married to Louisa of 46 Hill Street, Netherton. He volunteered for the Worcesters and joined the 1st Battalion on the Western Front. In March 1915 the Worcesters took part in the first attack of the campaigning season at Neuve Chapelle, followed by Aubers Ridge in May. They Armenti?res sector remained relatively quiet but Private Samuel Beddall was killed on the 28th June, probably as a result of enemy shelling. He was 23 years of age and is buried in Sailly-sur-la-Lys Canadian Cemetery II F 125) and commemorated on the Dudley and Netherton Memorials.

It could be this that is wrong and Louisa Hughes did marry John Beddall.

[kdwoodie]

Louisa is listed as Stepmother. Is it possible for someone to check 1921.

On Samuels pension record Charles Gorton is named as Executor to fathers Estate.

tEngland & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995

Name John Beddall
Death Date 20 May 1918
Death Place Worcestershire, England
Probate Date 15 Jun 1918
Probate Registry London, England

Beddall John of 46 Hill Street Netherton Worcestershire died 20 May 1918 Probate London 13 June to Charles Gorton retired Labourer Effects £227.