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Re: Query on death certif info-and can someone add to Bcc pl

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gardener wrote:
Northern Lass wrote:So if it says Daughter on the death certif it must be the Alice Beatrice curnock with mother Anna Maria Gee
so b 1880

but no marriage to a Flavell that I can see.
:?



Of course there is no "must be" about this. It is also possible that Jane had a daughter with an unknown person, and the kid could have any surname in the world, and then married a Flavell. Shame we don't have a first name.
I tried looking at all B Flavell births in the time period, in case she was unmarried still in 1931, and they all seem to be Beatrice or Bertha, with a Betsy or two. But I did not find any with mother Severns.


Oh no not another mystery on this woman.

So Jane Severns may have had a dau ...that address in 1931 for B. Flavell as the informant
is there any way of tracing that one?

Would phone books on ancestry help?

it is Breedon Cross Kings Norton
2 Canal side
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Everything I've looked at has Elizabeth Hall living at 2 Canal Side. The only Flavell was Kate Flavell
kdwoodie wrote:Wrong name but found this


Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name Kate Flavell
Residence Year 1922
Ward or Division/Constituency Kings Norton
Street Address 1545 Vale cottages, Breedon Cross
Residence Place Birmingham, West Midlands, England


Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name Elizabeth Hall
Residence Year 1930
Ward or Division/Constituency Kings Norton
Street Address 2 Canal side
Residence Place Birmingham, West Midlands, England
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Name Elizabeth Hall
Gender Female
Marital Status Widow
Birth Date 4 Jun 1869
Residence Date 1939
Address 2 Canal Side, Kings Norton
Residence Place Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Occupation Cauteen Cook
Line Number 44
Schedule Number 226
Sub Schedule Number 1
Enumeration District Qbtf
Borough Birmingham
Registration district 384/10
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So in 1930 (Elec regis) and 1939 (census) an Elizabeth Hall was at 2 Canal side.
but she is born 1869 so not dau of Jane Severns.
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I'm stumped on this
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Marriages Sep 1905.
Bamford Mary Elsie Birmingham 6d 298.
Banham William Augustine Birmingham 6d 298.
FLAVELL Major Birmingham 6d 298.
HARRIS Kate Birmingham 6d 298.

FLAVELL, FLORENCE ANNIE HARRIS.
GRO Reference: 1908 S Quarter in KING'S NORTON Volume 06C Page 406.

FLAVELL, FREDA HARRIS.
GRO Reference: 1913 D Quarter in KINGS NORTON Volume 06D Page 72.


FLAVELL, HORACE HARRIS.
GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in KINGS NORTON Volume 06D Page 48.

I dont have full access but it looks like this is Kate Flavell's family,

1921. 2 Canalside,Kingsnorton.
Major Flavell 1885.
Kate Flavell 1892
Florence Annie Flavell 1908.
Freda Flavell 1913.
and 3 others are on this record.
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1939. 281. Broad Lane, Birmingham.
Kate Flavell 56. 22 Apr 1884. Yard Labourer Refuse Dept Bham Corp.
Major Flavell 55. 17 Oct 1883.
Horace Flavell 23. 14 Jan 1916.

Could K Flavell be B Flavell.
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It is deffo a B as Barn road is the same writing as is Breedon Cross
so whoever filled it in did the B the same way.
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When she died here address was Jane CURNOCK - 74- Female- 7 Lifford Cottages Kings Norton B'ham

Lifford Cottages were on Lifford Lane, and there is this in the 1939 register

Major Flavell b.1858 2 Lifford Lane, Kings Norton 30, Birmingham (living with married daughter and son in law I think (Robert and Emma (Flavell) Witherford

Is that the father of the Major Flavell that Jimmy found? So at least we have Flavells in the vicinity, just a matter of working out how one claimed to be daughter of Jane.
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FLAVELL, MAJOR LEES.
GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in KINGS NORTON Volume 06C Page 457.

Marriages Dec 1882.
ANDREWES Mary Anne King's N 6c 895.
ANDREWS Mary Anne King's N 6c 895.
Flavell Major Thomas King's N 6c 895.
Lees Hannah King's N. 6c 895.
Price Thomas King's N. 6c 895.
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Major Flavell Snr onn BCC with wrong wife

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=624675
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Jimmy wrote:1921. 2 Canalside,Kingsnorton.
Major Flavell 1885.
Kate Flavell 1892
Florence Annie Flavell 1908.
Freda Flavell 1913.
and 3 others are on this record.


What was Kate Flavell's occupation in 1921?
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Northern Lass wrote:7th September 1931
Died- 1a Raddle Barn Road Selly Oak
Jane Curnock
Female
74 years


1a Raddle Barn Road was an hospital,

https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/i ... oad.42744/
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1911. 12 Elm Tree Rd, Stirchley.
Magor Flavell 25. Labourer Distructer Lifford. Green, Worcs.
Kate Flavell 27. married 3 years, 3 children born 1 died. Catshill, Bromsgrove.
Florence Flavell 2. Dau. Stirdley.
Raymond Flavell 11/12. Son. Kingsnorton.

FLAVELL, RAYMOND HARRIS.
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in KING'S NORTON Volume 06C Page 389.
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kdwoodie wrote:Major Flavell Snr onn BCC with wrong wife

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=624675


1891. Giggins Lane, Northfield.
Major Flavell 32. boat steerer. Dudley.
Annie Flavell 28.
Charles Flavell 8. Son.
Major Flavell 6. Son.
Alice Flavell 3. Daughter.
Albert Flavell 1/12. Son.
Others born Northfield.
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