Help with Knowles

[Northern Lass]

Hi KDW do you need any more on this are you still after the marriage for john snr..soz not up to speed on where we are with this one

if you are still after info can you post what you need and we can have a look or we can archive

[kdw]

Hi NL

Still need to find John Sr marriage but dont know when or who to

[Northern Lass]

Okedoke well lets see if we can help with that then....

[Northern Lass]

Poss
1841
Waste Bank, Oldswinford
John Knowles 45 - Nailor
Sarah Knowles 40
John Knowles 20
Caroline Knowles 15
all b in c

same page 1 door away
William Knowles 25 - Nailor
Hannah Knowles 25
William Knowles 4
Jane Knowles 2
Thomas Knowles 20 - Nailor
Phebe Knowles 20
Francis Knowles 2 Mo
all b in c

next door
William Knowles 55 - Nailor
Mary Knowles 55
Mary Knowles 15 (Poss witness)
John Knowles 15
William Knowles 15 (Poss witness)
Charles Dunn 35 - Anvil maker

Extracted
WILLIAM KNOWLES
Christening: 19 APR 1789 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: JOHN KNOWLES
Mother: JANE

JOHN KNOWLES
Christening: 27 JAN 1793 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: JOHN KNOWLES
Mother: JANE

poss other sibs
SARAH KNOWLES
Female Christening: 04 NOV 1787 Old Swinford, Worcester, England

NANCY KNOWLES
Female Christening: 08 NOV 1791 Old Swinford, Worcester, England

JANE KNOWLES
Female Christening: 10 SEP 1797 Old Swinford, Worcester

So this looks good this John Knowles and Sarah
area is good occup is good names are good for John jnr and John snr
age is good

[Northern Lass]

Here's the census
1851
Waste bank, Oldwinsford
John Knowles 57 - Nailor
Sarah Knowles 51 - Nailor
William Phillips 23 - son in law - Nailor
Caroline Phillips 24 - Nailor
Maria Phillips 2 - granddau
Sarah Phillips 11 Mo - granddau
all b Oldwinsford

and again here

so need a marriage
and bapt

[Northern Lass]

have we got this John and Maria on census later on
they marry 1843 oldswinford

[kdw]

1851 Waste Bank Lye
John Knowles Head age 31 Horse Nail Maker B. Wollescote Worcs
Meriah age 32 B. East Indies
Keabel age 11 B. Lye
Joeles age 5 B. Lye
William age 6 Mths B. Lye

1861 High Park Cradley
John Knowles age 41 Nailer B. Oldswinford
Maria age 42 B. East Indies
Richard age 21 B. Oldswinford Image looks like Kebbll
William age 10 B. Oldswinford

1871 High Park Cradley
John Knowles age 57 Horse Nailer B. Lye
Mary age 52 B. ab. Foreyner
William age 20 B. Lye
Caleb and family are next door

1881 Oldnal
John Knowles age 61 Nailer B. Lye Waste
Marie age 62 B. Lye Waste
Neaxt door
Cable Knowles and family

1891 Coleman Hill Street Cradley
William Dumler age 46 Labourer Bricklayer B. Wollisate
Louisa age 37. Bromsgrove
Joseph age 15 B.Cradley
Mary age 16 B. Cradley
Thomas age 6 B. Cradley
Harry age 6 B. Cradley
Ellen Mary age 3 B. Cradley
Floria Edith age 6 Mths B. Cradley
Maria age 76 Lodger B.Indias, Essex Image looks like Mother and East Indies

1901 William Knowles age 50 Bricklayers Labourer B> Lye
Louisa age 47 B. Bromsgrove
Thomas age 20 B. Cradley
Harry age 16 B. Cradley
Ellen age 13 B. Cradley
Flora age 10 B.Cradley
John age 8 B. Cradley
William age 3 B. Cradley
Maria age 82 B. India Bangalore

Maria died 1901 Have death cert and birth Cert no idea when John died
Maria is buried in St Peters Cradley don't think John is buried with her

[Northern Lass]

hmmm dunno then no inlaws with them no name Sarah
your call on this one kdw ....
we know father is John and that could be his wife Sarah...but then again
need to be sure

[kdw]

Hi
Iv'e searched for years and not been able to find a marriage for John and Sarah.
Will leave things as they stand for now.

[Northern Lass]

Okedoke
If you get a min and could just add it as a Possible that Sarah to the notes that would help
ie notes for JOhn and add that census but only in notes
not add Sarah as a wife at this stage
that might be useful for future researchers

so can this be archived for the mo?

[kdw]

All added Can be archived