WILLIAM ALLEN.

[Jimmy]

I noticed that DENNIS as William Allen's parents as Samuel and Charlotte, for some reason in my notes I have John and Ellen.

See,

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =587259521

[Northern Lass]

going to move this to Black Country genealogy section Jimmy


can we find this William Allen on early census
(I will look up marriage too)

[Jimmy]

I have the copies of him on 1851 to 1901 census's.
1851 he his lodging with a Charles Harris and family with a Charles Allen Oldhill, Rowley Regis,
but I dont have him with parents in 1841.

[Dennis]

Hi folks, I'm back from my travels In 1841 in Belper the family - if I have the right one, the usual caveat! - is as follows:

Saml Allen 50
John Allen 15
William Allen 12
Samuel Allen 10
Charlotte Allen 8
Eliza Allen 5

[Jimmy]

The only one I can see is,

WILLIAM ALLEN.
Christening, 20 APR 1828, Belper, Derby.
Parents:
SAML. ALLEN.
ROSANNA

[Northern Lass]

He puts Belper doesnt he on the census think it was the 1861

welcome back Dennis
xx

[kdw]

Added William and Hannah Westwood children

[Dennis]

There are two marriage dates entered by members of the LDS church, one between Samuel Allen and Charlotte Cooper in about 1815, the other in about 1824, both in Belper, Derbyshire. There's a daughter named Charlotte in 1841. But as you say, Jimmy, the wife's name is given as Rosanna at the 1828 christening of a William Allen in Belper. I wish my geography were better, I don't know the area and there might be candidates in other locations.

[Jimmy]

1851 to 1901 he puts birth place as Belper, Derbyshire.
1851. age 21.
1861. age 30.
1871. age 40.
1881. age 50.
1891. age 62.
1901. age 72.

And the death reg that fits is,

Deaths Mar 1906.
ALLEN William, 76, Dudley. 6c. 5.

[Northern Lass]

I am confused now

So we have a William Allen who may have a father John or Samuel
he is born Belper around 1828 ish

and if father is Samuel we dont know if mother is Rosannah or Charlotte?

and what about this one then...
JOHN ALLEN
Christening: 23 NOV 1821 Belper, Derby,
Parents:
Father: SAML. ALLEN
Mother: ELIZH.
Extracted

[kdw]

Just noticed Samuel Allen ABT 1829 and Charlotte EST 1829 on bcc , they would have only been 2 when William was born 1831

[Northern Lass]

Ok sorted

[Northern Lass]

Ok flagging to archive pend look up on this marriage see if father is a Samuel or John

Q is father for William a Samuel or John

WILLIAM ALLEN.
MARY ANN TROWMANS.
Marriage, 25 DEC 1851, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

if Samuel then we still have query if Rosannah or charlotte

Unless otherwise advised will archive pend look up within 24 hrs

[Jimmy]

Okay to Archive.

[Northern Lass]

Ok flagging to archive pend look up on this marriage see if father is a Samuel or John

Q is father for William a Samuel or John

WILLIAM ALLEN.
MARY ANN TROWMANS.
Marriage, 25 DEC 1851, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

if Samuel then we still have query if Rosannah or charlotte

Unless otherwise advised will archive pend look up within 24 hrs

rite this one needs amending and I will do that

I have done the look up will add info on link in a min

Father is a John Allen

so not Samuel

so Jimmy do you have the info for this William allens mother?
do we have further details

this William with father Samuel is another one