Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
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The marriage for Ann unknown and Joseph bagey is aleady on BCC, but she is still unknown.
Ann died,
BAGLEY, ANN age 28.
GRO Reference: 1852 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 3 .
BAGLEY, THOMAS NEWEY.
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 285.
BAGLEY, MARY MARIA NEWEY.
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 310.
BAGLEY, GEORGE WESTWOOD.
GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 11.
He then married Ann's sister Mary Ann BROMLEY, nee Newey before marrying Elizabeth Batty.
Dudley St Edmund.
Marriage date 21 Nov 1852.
Joseph BAGLEY. 29. widower. Chainmaker. George BAGLEY. Nailer.
Mary Ann BROMLEY. 40. widow. Dudley. Thomas NEWEY. Shoemaker.
Witness 1 Zachariah CRAMPTON.
Witness 2 Mary Ann WOODHOUSE.
Notes Groom, Bride & both Witnesses sign X.
Completed. Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
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Completed. Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
Mary Ann Newey first marriage,
Oldswinford St Mary.
Marriage date 20 Jan 1839.
William BROMLEY. full age. bachelor. Labourer. William BROMLEY. labourer.
Mary Ann NEWEY. full age. spinster. Thomas NEWEY. Shoemaker.
Witness 1 Daniel NEWEY.
Witness 2 Sarah NOCK.
Oldswinford St Mary.
Marriage date 20 Jan 1839.
William BROMLEY. full age. bachelor. Labourer. William BROMLEY. labourer.
Mary Ann NEWEY. full age. spinster. Thomas NEWEY. Shoemaker.
Witness 1 Daniel NEWEY.
Witness 2 Sarah NOCK.
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
Jimmy i am lost on this
You posted this
Dudley St Edmund.
Marriage date 21 Nov 1852.
Joseph BAGLEY. 29. widower. Chainmaker. George BAGLEY. Nailer.
Mary Ann BROMLEY. 40. widow. Dudley. Thomas NEWEY. Shoemaker.
Witness 1 Zachariah CRAMPTON.
Witness 2 Mary Ann WOODHOUSE.
Notes Groom, Bride & both Witnesses sign X.
Joseph Bagley is living with Elizabeth in 1861
1861 : Spinners End, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Joseph Bagley, Head, 37, Chain Maker
Elizabeth Bagley, Wife, 39, Chain Maker
Thomas Bagley, Son, 15, Chain Maker
Elizabeth Bagley, Daur, 13, Chain Maker
Ann M Bagley, Daur, 10, Chain Maker
George Bagley, Son, 4
John Bagley, Son, 3
Samuel Bagley, Son, 4 Months
Eliza Westwood, Daur in Law, 18, Chain Maker
Rosannah Westwood, Daur in Law, 16, Chain Maker
Maria Westwood, Daur in Law, 13, Chain Maker
All Born in Rowley Regis
Mary is living with her son James in 1871
1871: Tory Street
James E Bromley 31 H M Boot and Shoe Maker
Ann W? (M) Bromley 31 Wife
Mary Ann Bromley 10 Dau
Daniel Bromley 9 Son
William Bromley 6 Son
Catherine Bromley 4 Dau
Phoebe Bromley 2 Dau
Thomas Newey 80 Grd Father Widw Formally Shoe Maker b,Dudley Worc
Mary Ann Bromley 56 Mother Wid Formally Laundress b,Dudley, Worc
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Dudley St Edmund.
Marriage date 21 Nov 1852.
Joseph BAGLEY. 29. widower. Chainmaker. George BAGLEY. Nailer.
Mary Ann BROMLEY. 40. widow. Dudley. Thomas NEWEY. Shoemaker.
Witness 1 Zachariah CRAMPTON.
Witness 2 Mary Ann WOODHOUSE.
Notes Groom, Bride & both Witnesses sign X.
Joseph Bagley is living with Elizabeth in 1861
1861 : Spinners End, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Joseph Bagley, Head, 37, Chain Maker
Elizabeth Bagley, Wife, 39, Chain Maker
Thomas Bagley, Son, 15, Chain Maker
Elizabeth Bagley, Daur, 13, Chain Maker
Ann M Bagley, Daur, 10, Chain Maker
George Bagley, Son, 4
John Bagley, Son, 3
Samuel Bagley, Son, 4 Months
Eliza Westwood, Daur in Law, 18, Chain Maker
Rosannah Westwood, Daur in Law, 16, Chain Maker
Maria Westwood, Daur in Law, 13, Chain Maker
All Born in Rowley Regis
Mary is living with her son James in 1871
1871: Tory Street
James E Bromley 31 H M Boot and Shoe Maker
Ann W? (M) Bromley 31 Wife
Mary Ann Bromley 10 Dau
Daniel Bromley 9 Son
William Bromley 6 Son
Catherine Bromley 4 Dau
Phoebe Bromley 2 Dau
Thomas Newey 80 Grd Father Widw Formally Shoe Maker b,Dudley Worc
Mary Ann Bromley 56 Mother Wid Formally Laundress b,Dudley, Worc
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
It looks to me that Joseph was living with Elizabeth before they married.
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BAGLEY, JOHN BAITEY.
GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 6.
BAGLEY, SAMUEL BAILEY. could be Baitey.
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 25.
GRO Reference: 1858 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 6.
BAGLEY, SAMUEL BAILEY. could be Baitey.
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 25.
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1861. Beauty Bank, Rowley Regis.
Thomas Newey 70. Boot and shoe maker.
Mary Ann Newey 47. Daughter. WIDOW.
William Bromley 12. Grandson.
Thomas Newey 70. Boot and shoe maker.
Mary Ann Newey 47. Daughter. WIDOW.
William Bromley 12. Grandson.
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
Was the marriage to Elizabeth bigamous?
Mary was still alive in 1871, Joseph and Elizabeth married 1866
23 Apr 1866 Holy Trinity Amblecote
Joseph BAGLEY 42 W Chain Maker Amblecote Father George Bagley Chain Maker
Elizabeth WESTWOOD 40 W Amblecote Father John Parkes Nailer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Edward Berresford X / Maria Berresford X
Mary was still alive in 1871, Joseph and Elizabeth married 1866
23 Apr 1866 Holy Trinity Amblecote
Joseph BAGLEY 42 W Chain Maker Amblecote Father George Bagley Chain Maker
Elizabeth WESTWOOD 40 W Amblecote Father John Parkes Nailer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Edward Berresford X / Maria Berresford X
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
As all this been added if so it can be archived.
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
No, waiting for an answer.
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
An answer to what?
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
kdwoodie wrote:Was the marriage to Elizabeth bigamous?
Mary was still alive in 1871, Joseph and Elizabeth married 1866
23 Apr 1866 Holy Trinity Amblecote
Joseph BAGLEY 42 W Chain Maker Amblecote Father George Bagley Chain Maker
Elizabeth WESTWOOD 40 W Amblecote Father John Parkes Nailer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Edward Berresford X / Maria Berresford X
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Rowley Regis St Giles.
Burial date 15 Dec 1850.
Thomas WESTWOOD. age 32.
Burial person abode Waterfall Lane.
Notes Drowned.
Burial date 15 Dec 1850.
Thomas WESTWOOD. age 32.
Burial person abode Waterfall Lane.
Notes Drowned.
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1841. Waterfall Lane, Rowley Regis.
William Bramley 25. labourer.
Mary Bramley 25.
James Bramley 1.
1851. Beauty Bank, Rowley Regis.
Thomas Newey 60. shoe maker. Dudley.
Ann Newey 67. Bridgnorth.
Mary Bromley 38. dau. widow.
James Bromley 11.
William Bromley 2.
others born Rowley Regis.
BROMLEY, JAMES EDWARD NEWEY.
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 266.
BROMLEY, WILLIAM NEWEY.
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 325.
Rowley Regis St Giles.
Burial date 02 Jan 1850.
William BROMLEY. age 39.
Burial person abode Drew's Holloway, Hales Owen.
Notes Overflow of blood in the heart.
William Bramley 25. labourer.
Mary Bramley 25.
James Bramley 1.
1851. Beauty Bank, Rowley Regis.
Thomas Newey 60. shoe maker. Dudley.
Ann Newey 67. Bridgnorth.
Mary Bromley 38. dau. widow.
James Bromley 11.
William Bromley 2.
others born Rowley Regis.
BROMLEY, JAMES EDWARD NEWEY.
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 266.
BROMLEY, WILLIAM NEWEY.
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 325.
Rowley Regis St Giles.
Burial date 02 Jan 1850.
William BROMLEY. age 39.
Burial person abode Drew's Holloway, Hales Owen.
Notes Overflow of blood in the heart.
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
On BCC it as John and Phebe Batty as Elizabeths parents but not on census.
1841. Waterfall Lane, Rowley Regis.
John Parkes 40. tailor ?
Phebe Parkes 50.
Elizabeth Parkes 19. should be Battey.
Mariah Parkes 15.
Saml Parkes 15.
Eli Parkes 14.
/James Braley 7.
Phebe Braley 5.
Mary Braley 3 months. looks like Battey.
BAITEY, MARY ANN blank
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 296.
1841. Waterfall Lane, Rowley Regis.
John Parkes 40. tailor ?
Phebe Parkes 50.
Elizabeth Parkes 19. should be Battey.
Mariah Parkes 15.
Saml Parkes 15.
Eli Parkes 14.
/James Braley 7.
Phebe Braley 5.
Mary Braley 3 months. looks like Battey.
BAITEY, MARY ANN blank
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 296.
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1825 on BCC.
It looks like Elizabeth was a widow, but Joseph was'nt so it could be bigamous.