Grangers 14 sorting-- Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-
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Northern Lass
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 on BCC.
will sticky this and Grangers 14 may sort on BCC when she is around.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 on BCC.-
I am not very able at the moment but I will when able! 
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on
I have been looking at this but time and health has been a problem...
I think it is the right family but I think census is wrong?
I will try and look this next week.
I think it is the right family but I think census is wrong?
I will try and look this next week.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on
Sorry to hear that! I have been looking at it Jo, but couldn't make sense of it
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on
I think I have the problem...the census for William is wrong on BCC. Not sure on the marriage?
Selina and George Edwards are the children of George and Sarah Edwards.
The census should read on William…George and William are living in the same household 1861.
1861. Back Lane, Warley Wigon.
George Edwards, head, 24, Miner, Rowley Regis
Sarah, wife, 20, Rowley Regis
Selina, daur, 5, Warley Wigon
George, son, 1, Warley Wigon
/William, Head, 29, Miner, Rowley Regis
Elizabeth, 31, Brierley Hill
1871. Blackheath, Rowley Regis.
William Edwards, head, 39, Coal Miner, Rowley Regis
Elizabeth, wife, 43, Brierley Hill
Selina, daur, 15, Rowley Regis...............Should be niece.
1881. 75, Oldbury Road, Rowley Regis.
William Edwards, head, 50, Stone Breaker, Rowley Regis
Selina, Niece, 25, Langley
Thomas, son, 2, Rowley Regis...............Thomas son of Selina I think
EDWARDS, THOMAS. - blank.
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 32.
Still looking...does anyone agree please?
Selina and George Edwards are the children of George and Sarah Edwards.
The census should read on William…George and William are living in the same household 1861.
1861. Back Lane, Warley Wigon.
George Edwards, head, 24, Miner, Rowley Regis
Sarah, wife, 20, Rowley Regis
Selina, daur, 5, Warley Wigon
George, son, 1, Warley Wigon
/William, Head, 29, Miner, Rowley Regis
Elizabeth, 31, Brierley Hill
1871. Blackheath, Rowley Regis.
William Edwards, head, 39, Coal Miner, Rowley Regis
Elizabeth, wife, 43, Brierley Hill
Selina, daur, 15, Rowley Regis...............Should be niece.
1881. 75, Oldbury Road, Rowley Regis.
William Edwards, head, 50, Stone Breaker, Rowley Regis
Selina, Niece, 25, Langley
Thomas, son, 2, Rowley Regis...............Thomas son of Selina I think
EDWARDS, THOMAS. - blank.
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 32.
Still looking...does anyone agree please?
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on
I have changed BCC...
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =641766269
I will look as I can.
Please leave this for now here.
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =641766269
I will look as I can.
Please leave this for now here.
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grangers14
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on
This may be the family before marriage for Elizabeth?
1841. Pensnett, Kingswinford.
Jonathon Oliver, 35, Coal Miner, Not born in County
Emma, 30, Not born in County
Eliza, 10, Not born in County
James, 9, Not born in County
Henry, 7, Born in County
Hannah, 5, Born in County
Ann, 2, Born in County
Jonathon, 8m,
Robert Doody? 20, Coal Miner, Not born in County
Thomas Barker, 30, Stone Miner, Not born in County
John Rigby, 25, Coal Miner, Not born in County
1851. Pensnett, Kingswinford.
Jonathon Oliver, head, 46, Coal Miner, Wellington Shropshire
Emma, wife, 40, Wellington Shropshire
Frances, daur, 16,
Rosannah, 15,
Jonathon, son, 10,
William, son, 8,
Edward, son, 6,
James, son, 4,
All others born Kingswinford
1861, Church Sreet, Kingswinford.
Jonathon Oliver, Head, 56, Coal Miner, Dawely Green
Emma, wife, 50, Lawley Bank
John Edwin, 16, son, Coal miner,
James, son, 15, Coal Miner,
Samuel, son, 9,
George, son, 7,
Emilla, daur, 5,
All others born Kingswinford
1871. Church Street, Kingswinford.
Jonathon Oliver, head, 65, Miner, Dawley
Emma, wife, 59, Wellington
James, son, 24, Shoe Maker,
Emily, daur, 15,
All others born Kingswinford
Freereg Burial.
24th May 1858. St Mark, Pensnett
Johnathon Oliver, 17, Pensnett
1841. Pensnett, Kingswinford.
Jonathon Oliver, 35, Coal Miner, Not born in County
Emma, 30, Not born in County
Eliza, 10, Not born in County
James, 9, Not born in County
Henry, 7, Born in County
Hannah, 5, Born in County
Ann, 2, Born in County
Jonathon, 8m,
Robert Doody? 20, Coal Miner, Not born in County
Thomas Barker, 30, Stone Miner, Not born in County
John Rigby, 25, Coal Miner, Not born in County
1851. Pensnett, Kingswinford.
Jonathon Oliver, head, 46, Coal Miner, Wellington Shropshire
Emma, wife, 40, Wellington Shropshire
Frances, daur, 16,
Rosannah, 15,
Jonathon, son, 10,
William, son, 8,
Edward, son, 6,
James, son, 4,
All others born Kingswinford
1861, Church Sreet, Kingswinford.
Jonathon Oliver, Head, 56, Coal Miner, Dawely Green
Emma, wife, 50, Lawley Bank
John Edwin, 16, son, Coal miner,
James, son, 15, Coal Miner,
Samuel, son, 9,
George, son, 7,
Emilla, daur, 5,
All others born Kingswinford
1871. Church Street, Kingswinford.
Jonathon Oliver, head, 65, Miner, Dawley
Emma, wife, 59, Wellington
James, son, 24, Shoe Maker,
Emily, daur, 15,
All others born Kingswinford
Freereg Burial.
24th May 1858. St Mark, Pensnett
Johnathon Oliver, 17, Pensnett
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Jimmy
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on
OLIVER, JAMES DOODY.
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 464.
Ancestry,
Jonathan Oliver.
Emma Dudy.
Record Type: Marriage.
Marriage Date: 28 Nov 1829.
Marriage Place: Wrockwardine, Shropshire.
Residence Place: Wrockwardine.
Religion: Anglican.
Page number: 152.
Reference Number: P316/A/3/5.
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 464.
Ancestry,
Jonathan Oliver.
Emma Dudy.
Record Type: Marriage.
Marriage Date: 28 Nov 1829.
Marriage Place: Wrockwardine, Shropshire.
Residence Place: Wrockwardine.
Religion: Anglican.
Page number: 152.
Reference Number: P316/A/3/5.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on
I did think Eliza could have been Elizabeth but this is on Freereg
Staffordshire
Wordsley
Holy Trinity
Parish Register
Register entry number173
Marriage date 23 Sep 1850
John JONES full age bachelor Miner Pensnett Thomas JONES Miner
Eliza OLIVER full age spinster Pensnett Jonathan OLIVER Miner
Witness 1 Richard WILD
Witness 2 Betzey COOPER
NotesThe Bride & both witnesses signed with a X
Staffordshire
Wordsley
Holy Trinity
Parish Register
Register entry number173
Marriage date 23 Sep 1850
John JONES full age bachelor Miner Pensnett Thomas JONES Miner
Eliza OLIVER full age spinster Pensnett Jonathan OLIVER Miner
Witness 1 Richard WILD
Witness 2 Betzey COOPER
NotesThe Bride & both witnesses signed with a X
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Jimmy
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on
Halesowen St John the Baptist.
Marriage date 26 May 1833.
George EDWARDS. Otp. Bachelor.
Martha TAYLOR. Otp. Spinster.
Witness 1 Benjn WOODHOUSE.
Witness 2 George G FIDDIAN.
Marriage date 26 May 1833.
George EDWARDS. Otp. Bachelor.
Martha TAYLOR. Otp. Spinster.
Witness 1 Benjn WOODHOUSE.
Witness 2 George G FIDDIAN.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on
I kept going back there kdw They are close? So could be...just doesn't make sense?
Not sure where that marriage fits in Jimmy? I'm confused enough with this... 
They are close? So could be...just doesn't make sense? Not sure where that marriage fits in Jimmy? I'm confused enough with this...
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on
Who are Henry and Ann Oliver?
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Jimmy
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on
It looks to me that William as been put as a son of George and Martha Taylor based on the 1841 census, there is no other evidence that says George is his father.