Arc Thomas Arrowsmith Mary Ann Goldie

[kdwoodie]

I am totally lost on this, Who is Thomas' first wife

Dudley St. Andrew
10-Aug 1845
Thomas Arrowsmith F W Clicker Netherton Richard Arrowsmith Labourer
Mary Ann Goldie F S Netherton James Goldie Whitesmith
Witnesses:- Herbert Hampton. Jane Hampton

1851 Bond Street Dudley
Thos Arrowsmith Head Mar 55 Shoemaker Born Stafford
Mary Ann Arrowsmith Wife Mar 35 Born Dudley
Jane Arrowsmith Daur 20 Born Stafford
Betsy Ann Arrowsmith Daur 12 Born Dudley
Wm Dull Apprentice 11 Shoemakers Apprentice Born Dudley

Dudley
St John (Kates Hill)
Unspecified
Burial date 06 Jun 1860
Burial person forename Thomas
Burial person surname ARROWSMITH
Person age 64
Burial person abode Dudley

1861 King Street Dudley
Mary Ann Arrowsmith Head Widow 43 Boot and Shoe Manufacturer Employ 4 Men Born Dudley
Betsy Ann Arrowsmith Daughter Un 22 Born Dudley
Pamelia Arrowsmith Niece Un 18 Born Dudley
William Gisborne Boarder Unm 40 Boot Man Born Leicester

Name: Mary Ann Harrowsmith
[Mary Ann Goldy]
Gender: Female
Age: 43
Birth Date: 1817
Marriage Date: 27 Nov 1860
Marriage Place: Rowley-Regis, Stafford, England
Father:
James Goldy
Spouse:
William Gisborne
Father:
William Gisborne
FHL Film Number: 1849594
Reference ID: item 1 p 26

1871 26 King Street Dudley
William Gisbarn 50 Head Mar Shoe Manufacturer Born Barkby Leicestershire
Mary A Gisbarn 50 Wife Mar Born Dudley
Amy Lester 6 Granddaughter Born Dudley

1881 26 King Street Dudley
William Gibson Head Mar 60 Boot Maker Born Barkby Leics
Mary.A. Gibson Wife Mar 61 Born Dudley
Amy Lester Grand Daur Unm 16 Boot Closer Born Dudley
Ada May Niece Unm 15 Dress Maker Born Dudley
Image looks like GISBORN


How come Mary is a widow on 61 Census but she married 1860 and whow does Amy Lester fit in

[mumbles]

Amy Lester is Amy Logan Lester born 1865 mother Logan

[mumbles]

Freereg marriage 21/12/1862 St Andrew Dudley
James Lester bach. Grocer Netherton father Thomas Lester Bailiff
Betsy Ann Goldie Logan Sp. Netherton father Enos Logan Gas Fitter
Witnesses :- William Gisborn & Elizabeth Arrowsmith

[kdwoodie]

Could Betsy Ann Goldie Logan be the illegitimate daughter of Enos and Mary.

I cannot find a birth for her

[mumbles]

Betsy Ann Logen born 1838 Dudley not on GRO

[Jimmy]

Stafford, St Mary.
Baptism date 29 Oct 1830.
Jane ARROWSMITH.
Father Thomas ARROWSMITH. Shoemaker.
Mother Lydia.
Person abode Stafford.

Stafford, St Mary.
Burial date 17 May 1832.
Lydia ARROWSMITH. age 36.
Relationship wife of Thomas ARROWSMITH.
Burial person abode Forebridge, Stafford.

[Jimmy]

GOLDING, PAMELA MARTIN.
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 266.

[kdwoodie]

Many thanks both, I don't think that is the right Betsy as there is one with parents William and Maria.

Jimmy who is Pamela Golding?

[Jimmy]

Ancestry,

Thomas Arrowsmith
Record Type: Bann
Residence Place: Stone
Marriage Banns Date: 8 Jul 1832
Marriage Banns Place: Stone, St Michael, Staffordshire, England
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Spouse:
Lydia Hapall
Religion: Anglican.

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Thomas Arrowsmith
Record Type: Marriage
Residence Place: Stone
Marriage Date: 6 Aug 1832
Marriage Place: Stone, St Michael, Staffordshire, England
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Spouse:
Lydia Hassell
Religion: Anglican

[Jimmy]

1841. Dudley.
Sarah Smith 35.
Thomas Arrowsmith 40, shoemaker. n,b,i, c.
John Batt 35,

[kdwoodie]

So they married after Lydia died

[kdwoodie]

Thank you mumbles and Jimmy

I have added what i think is correct here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =410353076

If it looks ok please archive.