completd.Thomas Holloway b 1898 father GEorge. died 1918--NL

[Northern Lass]

stuck on this lot...
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =447173118

who does edward Holloway marry first...?

and who do the kids belong to cos I getting different names.

[kdwoodie]

1841 Haley Green
Edward Hollaway 20 Lab N
Sophia Hollaway 25 Nail Maker N
Charlotte Hollaway 5 Y
Thomas Hollaway 3 Y
Joseph Hollaway 6 Mo Y

1851 Hawne Bank Hawne
Edward Holloway Head Mar 35 labourer Born Hasbury
Sophia Holloway wife Mar 37 Illey
Charlotte Holloway Daur U 14 Born Hayley Green
Thomas Holloway Son U 12 Born Hayley Green
Joseph Holloway Son U 10 Born Hayley Green
Edward Holloway Son 7 Born Hawne Bank

Name: Sophia Rudge
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1836
Marriage Place: Old Swinford,Worcester,England
Spouse:
Edward Holloway
FHL Film Number: 527938, 527939, 527940, 527942, 527943, 533992, 533993, 533994, 533995, 533996

Name: Sophia Holloway
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Death Registration Place: Stourbridge, Worcestershire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Jun 1854
Inferred Death Place: Worcestershire, United Kingdom
Volume: 6c
Page: 78

HOLLOWAY, JOSEPH RUDGE
GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 420

[Northern Lass]

So what about the spittle one is that wrong then..

can you find a birth for Edward Holloway mother rudge?

cos I got this
HOLLOWAY, EDWARD SPITTLE
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 476

[kdwoodie]

Sophia here on BCC https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=547981

Name: Sophia Rudge
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 21 Mar 1813
Baptism Place: Halesowen,Worcester,England
Father:
Joseph Rudge
Mother:
Sarah
FHL Film Number: 886632, 886633, 886634

[Waltzer7]

I dont get this at all

Edward holloway seems to marry a sophia and then an Eliza

but kids seem to have diff mothers.

HOLLOWAY, EDWARD SPITTLE
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 476

and

HOLLOWAY, JOSEPH RUDGE
GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 420

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =917898392

Edward and Sophia Holloway on here on 1841 and 1851 Censuses: -

1841 Census: Hayley Green, Worcestershire
Hannah Holloway, 15, Nailer. Out of County - Was Chaddesley Corbett considered “Out of County” then?
Elizabeth Holloway, 55. Yes
Harriett Holloway, 25, Nailer. Out of County
Mary, 2 ]_ Children of Harriett Yes
Henry, 8 months ] Yes

Edward Holloway, 20, Labourer. Out of County
Sophia, 25, Wife. Out of County
Charlotte, 5 Yes
Thomas, 3 Yes
Joseph, 6 months Yes

1851 Census: Hawne Bank, Halesowen
Edward Holloway, 35, Labourer. Born: Hasbury, Worcestershire
Sophia Holloway, 37, Wife. Born: Illey, Worcestershire
Charlotte Holloway, 14, Daur. Born: Hayley Green
Thomas, 12, Son. Born: Hayley Green
Joseph, 10, Son. Born: Hawne Bank, Halesowen

[kdwoodie]

not seeing another birth for Edward

[Waltzer7]

not seeing another birth for Edward

The Edward who married Sophia:-

11 Feb 1821. Edward son of Joseph and Hannah Holloway, Langley Green, Shovel Maker. Source: St John the Baptist Halesowen Parish Registers.

[Northern Lass]

So do I discount the Spittle birth for Edward?

[kdwoodie]

i'm lost

[Northern Lass]

I think the Spittle one is for another couple they seem to have a son William
HOLLOWAY, WILLIAM SPITTLE
GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 487

so I will delete the spittle one for Edward ref...but think that he is still son of sophia rudge and Edward Holloway.

[Northern Lass]

I think we have the wrong parents for Edward that marries sarah tromans

on marrige father is a Boat loader

Free Reg
Worcestershire Dudley St Thomas
Marriage date 03 Dec 1860
Edward HOLLOWAY- age minor-bachelor- occupation Miner- abode Dudley- father Edward HOLLOWAY- father occupation Boat Loader
Sarah TROWMAN- age minor- spinster- abode Dudley- father Barnet TROWMANS- father occupation Nailer
Witness1 Isaac TROWMANS
Witness2 Mary Ann TROWMANS
Notes By Banns-Groom & witnesses marked X

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =987655489

[Northern Lass]

no where on census for Edward snr is he a boatloader...which sounds quite specific

wonder if the Edward born to spittle dies...

[kdwoodie]

In 1881 edward Snr is a boat loader Frederick and his wife is Living with them
1881 147 Halesowen Road
Edward Holloway Head Mar 64 Boat Loader born Halesowen
Elza Holloway Wife Mar Born Halesowen
/ Frederick Holloway Head Mar 24 Coal Miner Born Rowley Regis
Emma Holloway Wife Mar 25 Nail Born Rowley Regis

[Northern Lass]

So that answers that then doesnt it we have the right edward with the right family just no birth that fits.

[kdwoodie]

i think it is the right family