ARC...Humphrey Raybould and Prudence Hartland

[Frodo]

Looking at the Manger side of the family I am trying to make sense of Humphrey and Prudence who's grandaughter Mary married Thomas Manger.
For Humphrey I have his baptism on 13th August 1746 and probate on 25th October 1827.
For Prudence baptism on 27th October 1745, parents Thomas and Mary. (Both from England select birth and christenings).
According to other family trees and a select deaths and burials record Prudence Raybould was buried in 1806.
I am wondering if there are 2 Prudence Rayboulds as one of the sources for Humphrey is his Will in which he says he lives separately from his wife. He also mentions the children:
Ann married George Easthope 1804
Prudence married Isaac Beddard 1809
3 sons Thomas, Joseph and David.
I can't tell what date the Will was written just when it was proved but as he mentions the spouses and Prudence wasn't married until 1809 surely his wife cannot have died in 1806
I also have a record for a Diana Raybould dying in 1842 so if this is correct presumably she was separated from Joseph as he appears to have remarried in 1829. The names and ages of the Raybould's she was with in 1841 don't seem to match the relatives I have in the family tree.
According to hints found on Ancestry the Susannah is Susannah Pearson born 1777.
Any clarification of the above would be helpful

[Waltzer7]

Humphrey Raybould (Bpt: 13 April 1746 - Buried: 3 July 1827) was my 5th great, grandfather and here is a transcription of his will: -

"This is the last will and Testament of Mr Humphry Raybould of the parish of Kingswinford in the County of Stafford yeoman I order and direct that all my just debts funeral and testamentary expenses shall be paid and discharged by my Executors hereafter named I give and bequeath all my household goods and furniture bedding linen and other effects that shall be in and about the dwelling house and premises in my occupation at the time of my decease unto my two daughters Ann the wife of George Easthope and Prudence the wife of Isaac Beddard equally between them.

Also I give and bequeath unto my wife who lives separate and apart from me and has behaved extremely unkind to me the sum of one pound only to be paid to her within one month next after my decease.

Also I order and direct my Executors hereafter named to pay to my son in law the said George Easthope in three months after my decease the sum of five pounds and twelve shillings in satisfaction and discharge of a debt but from me to him also I give my tenant right in and to three cottages and premises while I hold under the right honourable Lord Viscount Dudley and ward and which are now in the several occupations of my three sons Thomas, Joseph and David Raybould and for which they respectively pay me rent and it is my will that care of them shall hold and enjoy after my decease the cottage and premises now in his own occupation and in case any or either of said sons shall at the time of my decease not owe any rent or arrears of rent for their respective cottages and premises then and in such case I do hereby authorise and support my Executors to stop and adjust out of his or their share or shares of the monies personal estate in and effects hereafter given and bequeathed by me to them respectively all such sum and sums of money as they shall or may not and be indebted to me for rent and arrears of rent as aforesaid all the rest and residue of my monies personal estate and effects that I shall die possessed of I give and bequeath unto my said five children Thomas, Joseph and David Raybould, Ann Easthope and Prudence Beddard equally amongst them share and share alike and lastly I appoint Daniel Heathcock, Coalminer and Benjamin Hancox, Tracemaker but of Mushroom Green in the parish of Dudley in the County of Worcester Executors of this my will and revoke all former will and wills by me heretofore made in Witness whereof the said Humphry Raybould have hereunto set my hand and seal published and declared this to be my last will and testament the fourth day of April in the year of our lord one thousand eight hundred and twenty five. The mark of X Humphry Raybould SS Signed Sealed published and declared by the said Testater Humphry Raybould as and for his will and testament in the presence of us Phebe Fellowes & Thos Orme Clerk to Mr Fellowes. Dudley.

Proved at London 25th October 1827 before the Judge by the oaths of Daniel Heathcock and Benjamin Hancox the Exors to whom Admin was granted having both first sworn duly to Admr. "

[Waltzer7]

Looking at the Manger side of the family I am trying to make sense of Humphrey and Prudence who's grandaughter Mary married Thomas Manger.
For Humphrey I have his baptism on 13th August 1746 and probate on 25th October 1827.
For Prudence baptism on 27th October 1745, parents Thomas and Mary. (Both from England select birth and christenings).
According to other family trees and a select deaths and burials record Prudence Raybould was buried in 1806.
I am wondering if there are 2 Prudence Rayboulds as one of the sources for Humphrey is his Will in which he says he lives separately from his wife. He also mentions the children:
Ann married George Easthope 1804
Prudence married Isaac Beddard 1809
3 sons Thomas, Joseph and David.
I can't tell what date the Will was written just when it was proved but as he mentions the spouses and Prudence wasn't married until 1809 surely his wife cannot have died in 1806
I also have a record for a Diana Raybould dying in 1842 so if this is correct presumably she was separated from Joseph as he appears to have remarried in 1829. The names and ages of the Raybould's she was with in 1841 don't seem to match the relatives I have in the family tree.
According to hints found on Ancestry the Susannah is Susannah Pearson born 1777.
Any clarification of the above would be helpful

Prudence, mentioned in the will, was Humphrey's daughter, (baptised 12 April 1789 - 18 March 1852) and she married Isaac Baddard on 28 Nov 1809 at St Mary's, Old Swinford, Worcestershire.

Joseph Raybould (1774 - 1861) married Diana Yardley (1770 - 1827) and he remarried again, to Susannah Pearson (1777 - 1862) on 9 June 1829.

[Northern Lass]

So we have some of this on Bcc will try and add some more...if I can get my head around it

we have added your usernames frodo and waltzer7 to previous info on Bcc would you like them added to these
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... onnections

so you both connect as cousins


and mumbles do you connect?

[kdwoodie]

Family Search
Name:
Humphry Raybold
Sex:
Male
Christening Date:
13 Apr 1746
Christening Place:
Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Christening Place (Original):
Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Father's Name:
Michael Raybold
Father's Sex:
Male
Mother's Name:
Ann
Mother's Sex:
Female

[Waltzer7]

can someone post the bapt for Humphrey pls we need to verify.
also where was will from pls?

The will was on Ancestry: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/co ... pId=512360

Bapt for Humphrey: -

Humphry Raybold
Baptism Date: 13 Apr 1746
Baptism Place: Kingswinford,Stafford,England
Father: Michael Raybold
Mother: Ann (nee Amis)
FHL Film Number417203

[Northern Lass]

Ok added some here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =442344322

let me know if you want your usernames added in.

[kdwoodie]

Name:
Mary Raybould
Sex:
Female
Death Date:
12 Apr 1798
Christening Date:
5 Oct 1783
Christening Place:
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England
Christening Place (Original):
Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
Father's Name:
Humphrey Raybould
Father's Sex:
Male
Mother's Name:
Prudence
Mother's Sex:
Female

Name:
Nancy Raybould
Sex:
Female
Christening Date:
3 Sep 1781
Christening Place:
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England
Christening Place (Original):
Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
Father's Name:
Humpy. Raybould
Father's Sex:
Male
Mother's Name:
Prudence
Mother's Sex:
Female

Name:
Prudence Raybould
Sex:
Female
Christening Date:
19 Apr 1789
Christening Place:
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England
Christening Place (Original):
Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
Father's Name:
Humphry Raybould
Father's Sex:
Male
Mother's Name:
Rud.
Mother's Sex:
Female

Name:
David Raybould
Sex:
Male
Christening Date:
18 Mar 1787
Christening Place:
Brierley Hill, Staffordshire, England
Christening Place (Original):
Brierley Hill, Stafford, England
Father's Name:
Hump. Raybould
Father's Sex:
Male
Mother's Name:
Prud.
Mother's Sex:
Female

Name:
Eliz Raybold
Sex:
Female
Christening Date:
29 Oct 1769
Christening Place:
Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Christening Place (Original):
Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Father's Name:
Humphry Raybold
Father's Sex:
Male
Mother's Name:
Prudence
Mother's Sex:
Female

Name:
Thos Raybold
Sex:
Male
Christening Date:
16 Feb 1772
Christening Place:
Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Christening Place (Original):
Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Father's Name:
Humpy Raybold
Father's Sex:
Male
Mother's Name:
Prudence
Mother's Sex:
Female

Name:
Jos Raybold
Sex:
Male
Christening Date:
3 Apr 1774
Christening Place:
Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Christening Place (Original):
Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Father's Name:
Humphry Raybold
Father's Sex:
Male
Mother's Name:
Prudence
Mother's Sex:
Female

Name:
James Raybold
Sex:
Male
Christening Date:
4 Aug 1776
Christening Place:
Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England
Christening Place (Original):
Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Father's Name:
Humphry Raybold
Father's Sex:
Male
Mother's Name:
Prudence
Mother's Sex:
Female

[Waltzer7]

Ok added some here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =442344322

let me know if you want your usernames added in.

Yes please.

Joseph's first marriage to Diana Yardley: -
Joseph Raybold
Marriage Date: 26 Feb 1797
Marriage Place: Halesowen,Worcester,England
Spouse: Diana Yardley
FHL Film Number: 0599888 IT 4, 886632, 886633, 886634, 886635, 886636, 886637, 886638

[Waltzer7]

Humphry Raybould's burial: https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_recor ... ?locale=en

[kdwoodie]

Pruedence here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=543435

[Northern Lass]

So hang on we have this one here
is this James Raybould son of Humphrey and Prudence
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =466988896

he seems to marry a Mary Brettell
he then dies and she marries Thomas Manger

is that the thomas we are talking about

[Waltzer7]

Ok added some here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =442344322

let me know if you want your usernames added in.

Name: Michael Raybold
Baptism Date: 22 Jan 1716
Baptism Place: Kingswinford,Stafford,England
Father: Humphry Raybold
Mother: Elizabeth
FHL Film Number: 942.46 K29K

Name: Michael Raybould
Marriage Date: 03 Feb 1740
Marriage Place: Kingswinford,Stafford,England
Spouse: Ann Amis
FHL Film Number: 417203

Name: Michael Raybould Death: -
Age: 71
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: 1713
Death Date: 1784
Burial Date: 27 Sep 1784
Burial Place: Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England

[Northern Lass]

just trying to add the kids in and going thru this

Thomas, Joseph and David.....are they on Bcc can anyone see them

[Northern Lass]

So hang on we have this one here
is this James Raybould son of Humphrey and Prudence
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =466988896

he seems to marry a Mary Brettell
he then dies and she marries Thomas Manger

is that the thomas we are talking about

what about this query can you clarify pls is this the thomas manger mentioned if so Mary is a brettell?