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ARC....John thomas Payne and Doris E Harper.--NL adding

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TOPIC SPLIT.


What about this, doesn't help though.

1911 46 Somers Road Halesowen
David Parsons Head 75 Married Labourer General Born Rowley
Elizabeth ParsonsWife 72 Married Born Harriston
John Payne Nephew 21 Single Engineer Fitter Born Halesowen
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This is getting worse

PAYNE John T HARPER Doris E 1929 Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/011/252

I think its this couple on 39 census not Doris Eveline.

Name: Doris E Payne
Death Age: 47
Birth Date: abt 1905
Registration Date: Oct 1952
[Nov 1952]
[Dec 1952]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 306

Name: John Payne
Birth Date: 1890
Death Date: 13 Aug 1968
Cemetery: Halesowen Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Halesowen, Metropolitan Borough of Dudley, West Midlands, England
Has Bio?: N
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kdwoodie wrote:What about this, doesn't help though.

1911 46 Somers Road Halesowen
David Parsons Head 75 Married Labourer General Born Rowley
Elizabeth ParsonsWife 72 Married Born Harriston
John Payne Nephew 21 Single Engineer Fitter Born Halesowen


I think that is the one on 1939 do you?

wonder how he is nephew to this lot.

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PAYNE, JOHN JONES
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 152

Cant find either of the marriages and i do think its him in 39
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So this one needs adding to Bcc?

Name: John J Payne
[Thomas Payne]
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 20 Jun 1890
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 25
Residence Place: Halesowen, Worcestershire, England
Occupation: Motor Lorry Driver
Line Number: 39
Schedule Number: 103
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: QJGS
Borough: Halesowen
Registration district: 373/1/45
Inferred Spouse:
Doris Ellen Payne
Household Members Age
John J Payne 49
Doris Ellen Payne
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Yes, i think we need marriages looking up.

this PAYNE, JOHN JONES
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 152

Then his mother must be a sister to Elizabeth, we need census for Elizabeth before marriage to see if anyone married a Payne
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1851 Islington
John Jones Head 34 Married Nail Maker Born Halesowen
Jane Jones Wife Mar 44 Born Addlestone Warwickshire
Elizabeth Jones Daur 12 Born Addlestone, Warwickshire,
John Jones Son 11 Born Birmingham
Nancy Jones Daur 7 Born Halesowen
Thomas Jones Son 5 Born Halesowen
Jane Jones Son 2 Born Halesowen
Image is hard to read

1861 Islington street Halesowen
John Jones Head Mar 44 Nailer Born Halesowen
Jane Jones Wife Mar 54 Fruiterer Born Atherstone Warks
Nancy Jones Daur Un 17 Nailer Born Halesowen
Thomas Jones Son 15 Nailer Born Halesowen
Jane Jones Daur 12 Nailer Born Halesowen

1871 Islington Halesowen
Thomas Payne 21 Head Mar Nail Maker Born Quinton
Jane Payne 22 Wife Mar Nail Maker Born Halesowen
Next door John and Jane Jones

1881 Stourbridge Road Halesowen
Thomas Payne Head Mar 32 Nail Forger Born Quinton
Jane Payne Wife Mar 33 Nail Forger Born Halesowen
Jane Payne Daur 7 School Born Halesowen
Frederick Payne Son 5 School Born Halesowen
Phoebe Payne Daur 4 School Born Halesowen
Mary Payne Daur 2 Born Halesowen


Name: Jane Payne
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: Stourbridge, Worcestershire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1890
Inferred Death Place: Worcestershire, United Kingdom
Volume: 6c
Page: 116

Name: Jane Payne
Birth Date: 1848
Death Date: 1 Apr 1890
Cemetery: Halesowen Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Halesowen, Metropolitan Borough of Dudley, West Midlands, England
Has Bio?: N
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/219 ... jane-payne

PAYNE Thomas JONES Jane 1869 Blackheath, St Paul Dudley Register Office 012/001/4

Thomas Payne here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=540968
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Marriages Dec 1893
Payne Thomas Bromsgrove 6c 669
Powell Emma Bromsgrove 6c 669

1901 Woodgate Northfield
Thomas Payne Head M 51 Shopkeeper Born Quinton
Emma Payne Wife M 43 Born Hunnington
Thomas Payne Son S 19 Labourer Quarry Born Halesowen
Albert Payne Son S 16 Tube Condensor Born Halesowen
Annie Payne Daur S 14 Born Halesowen
Stanley G Payne Son 6 Born Northfield
Wallace Payne Son 4 Born Northfield
Mary A Powell Servant S 40 Domestic Servant Born Hunnington
Ethel Beatrix French Boarder S 21 Assistant School Teacher Born Eckington, Yorkshire

1911 Woodgate Quinton
Thomas Payne Head 61 Married Grocer Born Quinton
Emma Payne Wife 50 Married Born Hunnington
Jane Payne Daur 37 Single Born Halesowen
George Stanley Payne Son 16 Single Moulder Born Woodgate
Wallace Payne Son 14 Born Woodgate
Mary Ann Powell Relative 44 Single Born Hunnington

Name: Thomas Payne
Birth Date: 1849
Death Date: 4 Jul 1917
Cemetery: Halesowen Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Halesowen, Metropolitan Borough of Dudley, West Midlands, England
Has Bio?: N
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/219 ... omas-payne

PAYNE, JANE JONES
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 174

PAYNE, FRED JONES
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 165

PAYNE, PHOEBE JONES
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 172

PAYNE, MARY JONES
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 173

PAYNE, THOMAS JONES
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 148

PAYNE, ALBERT JONES
GRO Reference: 1884 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 158

PAYNE, ANNIE JONES
GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 142

PAYNE, JOHN JONES
GRO Reference: 1890 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 152

PAYNE, GEORGE STANLEY POWELL
GRO Reference: 1895 M Quarter in KINGS NORTON Volume 06C Page 481

PAYNE, WALLACE POWELL
GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in KINGS NORTON Volume 06C Page 448
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That is utterly brilliant Kay very very well done I am connecting and adding

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St Paul Blackheath 14 Nov 1869
Thomas PAYNE - age 20 -Horse nail maker- abode Quinton- father David PAYNE- father occupation Nailer
Jane JONES- age 20- occupation Nailer- abode Quinton- father John JONES- father occupation Horse nail maker
Witness1 John PRICE
Witness2 Nancy WHITE
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Have we a marriage for John jones and Jane pls

looking for all the kids on gro ....I am on that now but could do with mothers name pls
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???
JONES, JANE SMITH
GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 457

JONES, THOMAS SMITH
GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 495

JONES, - SMITH
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 484 Nancy??

not sure on this
JONES, ELIZABETH SMITH
GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in ATCHAM Volume 18 Page 8
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Name: Jane Jones
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 21 May 1829
Marriage Place: Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick,England
Spouse:
John Jones
FHL Film Number: 1426010 IT 1, 501830, 501831, 501833, 507832
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kids seem to have mother Smith so wonder if 2nd mar for her
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kdwoodie wrote:Name: Jane Jones
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 21 May 1829
Marriage Place: Aston Juxta Birmingham,Warwick,England
Spouse:
John Jones
FHL Film Number: 1426010 IT 1, 501830, 501831, 501833, 507832


this might have full info on ancestry .
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JONES, THOMAS WILLIAM JONES
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 483
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