ARC.? Alice Downing 1819/1820--KDW adding to Bcc

[kdwoodie]

I have been trying sort the family of William Allcock, i think Alice Downing is his mother

I can find no marriage for Alice and James but i think Alice is the daughter of William and Nancy Downing here here https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=535974

1861 Rowley Regis
James Alcock Head Mar 39 Pork Butcher Born South Wales
Alice Alcock Wife Mar 39 Born Tividale?
William Alcock Son 9 Scholar Born Tividale
Elizh Alcock Daur 6 Scholar Born Tivdale
Arthur Alcock Son 4 Born Tividale

1871 Chapel Street Rowley Regis
James Allcock 48 Head Mar Labourer Born Rowley Regis
Alice Allcock 49 Wife Mar Born Rowley Regis
William Allcock 18 Son Unm Labourer Born Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Allcock 16 Daughter Unm Scholar Born Rowley Regis
John Allcock 12 Son Unm Scholar Born Rowley Regis

ALLCOCK, WILLIAM DOWNING
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 12

ALLCOCK, ELIZABETH DOWNING
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 19

ALLCOCK, JOHN DOWNING
GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 2

Name: Alice Allcock
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place: Dudley, Staffordshire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Dec 1873
Inferred Death Place: Staffordshire, United Kingdom
Volume: 6c
Page: 10

Other children for Willaim and Nancy from Freereg

Rowley Regis
St Giles
Baptism date 12 Sep 1819
Person forename Alice
Person sex F
Father forename William
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname DOWNING
Person abode Mincing Lane.

Rowley Regis
St Giles
Baptism date 07 Apr 1822
Person forename Joseph
Person sex M
Father forename William
Mother forename Ann
Father surname DOWNING
Person abode Mincing Lane.
Father occupation Nailer

Rowley Regis
St Giles
Baptism date 02 Feb 1823
Person forename William
Person sex M
Father forename Joseph
Mother forename Ann
Father surname DOWNING
Person abode Poorhouse
Father occupation Miner

Rowley Regis
St Giles
17 Aug 1823
Person forename Phebe
Person sex F
Father forename William
Mother forename Ann
Father surname DOWNING

Rowley Regis
St Giles
Baptism date 12 Feb 1826
Person forename Isaac
Person sex M
Father forename William
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname DOWNING
Person abode Mincing Lane.
Father occupation Nailer
Person abode Mincing Lane.

Rowley Regis
St Giles
Baptism date 12 Aug 1832
Person forename Mary Ann
Person sex F
Father forename William
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname DOWNING
Person abode Mincing Lane.
Father occupation Nailer
Father occupation Nailer

The only Alice Downing i can find before 1861 is this and i can find no connection with John Downing
1841 Tividale Rowley Regis
John Downing 55 Farmer Not born in County
Mary Downing 50 Born in County
William Downing 25 Born in County
Alice Downing 20 Born in County


Do i connect up ?

[grangers14]

Yes please, it looks right!

[kdwoodie]

All added except Mary Ann Downing

Rowley Regis
St Giles
Baptism date 12 Aug 1832
Person forename Mary Ann
Person sex F
Father forename William
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname DOWNING
Person abode Mincing Lane.
Father occupation Nailer
Father occupation Nailer

Could she be the Ann Downing abt 1830 ?
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =454019456

[Northern Lass]

Think this has been connected?

wits look like brother of Ann?

[kdwoodie]

I know Ann has been connected but is the Baptism for Mary Ann the same person.

[grangers14]

On Ann's marriage a witness is Hannah Downing...not triyng to complicate more!
Is there a death for a Mary?

[grangers14]

Freereg death.
2nd January 1831. St Giles, Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Downing, Mincing Lane, 1 yr
Notes: small pox

[kdwoodie]

I am totally confused.

The death is 5 months before the baptism.

There is a death for Joseph

Rowley Regis
St. Giles
Other Transcript
Burial date 30 Aug 1822
Burial person forename Joseph
Burial person surname DOWNING
Person age 9m
Burial person abode Mincing Lane
Notes Chin cough

I thought maybe Hannah could have bee his wife

[grangers14]

I didn't notice the death was before christening!

[kdwoodie]

Do we archive this as I am stumped

[Northern Lass]

Do we archive this as I am stumped

What are we looking for I am lost too?

[kdwoodie]

I have added everything apart from the Mary Ann and the death of Joseph .

Baptism for Mary Ann
Rowley Regis
St Giles
Baptism date 12 Aug 1832
Person forename Mary Ann
Person sex F
Father forename William
Mother forename Nancy
Father surname DOWNING
Person abode Mincing Lane.
Father occupation Nailer
Father occupation Nailer

Death for Mary Ann
Freereg death.
2nd January 1831. St Giles, Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Downing, Mincing Lane, 1 yr
Notes: small pox

How can she be buried before she is born and could she be Ann as i can find no baptism for Ann or Hannah who is a witness on Anns marriage to Thomas Tibbetts

[grangers14]

I think leave it... You can't prove it if there is no info there!
Thank you KDW. I will archive now.