Completed Arthur Hale 1887-1916....MJay adding to Bcc

[mjay]

I think this may be Arthur's family on bcc
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=531782

Sapper 313296 Arthur Hale
DOB 1889 Dudley

Killed in Action on Thursday, 21st February 1918, age 29.
Buried in Grave C. 23. at Neuville-Bourjonval British Cemetery, Pas De Calais, France.

Royal Engineers, 3rd Field Survey Company.
Formerly 11130 South Staffs Regiment.

Husband of Mrs Sarah Hale, 11 Cricket Meadow, Upper Gornal, Dudley.

Marriage 1914 St James lower Gornal Dudley 215/008/78
Arthur Hale
Sarah Flavell
Marriage look up requested

More info can be found here
https://www.tiptonremembers.net/index.php/hale-arthur

Link to Commonwealth War Graves Site: http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/275285/

[mjay]

Going to need some help with this one please
Don't think it's the right marriage

Thanks for the Marriage look up by RF
78 1 Mar Arthur HALE 25 B Collier 88 Ruiton St Father James Hale (Dec) Miner Sarah FLAVELL 24 S 3 Turner St Father Eli Flavel (Dec) Miner After Banns Arthur Signed The X Of Sarah Wit; Eli Flavell / Edith Hale

[grangers14]

That Arthur is here on BCC

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=532062

[mjay]

Thanks Jo
I'll add that marriage in

I'm really confused with sapper Arthur Hale I originally posted though

Am I ok to add this Arthur to BCC with the info we have until we found a connection
Sapper 313296 Arthur Hale
DOB 1889 Dudley

Killed in Action on Thursday, 21st February 1918, age 29.
Buried in Grave C. 23. at Neuville-Bourjonval British Cemetery, Pas De Calais, France.

Royal Engineers, 3rd Field Survey Company.
Formerly 11130 South Staffs Regiment.

Husband of Mrs Sarah Hale, 11 Cricket Meadow, Upper Gornal, Dudley.

[grangers14]

Yes it is confusing?

There is this one, has his date of birth as 1884?
First name(s) Arthur
Last name Hale
Birth year 1884
Birth parish Sedgley
Birth town Gornal Wood
Birth county Staffordshire
Birth country England
Service number 6658
Regiment South Staffordshire Regiment
Year 1902
Attestation date 13 Jan 1902
Attestation age years 18
Attestation service number 6658
Attestation corps 3rd S Staff R
Document type Attestation

[grangers14]

In 2020 I was contacted by the great grandson of Alfred Hale who had died from Tuberculosis in 1918, after having been discharged from the South Staffs in 1916 due to sickness. It was suggested that the A. Hale on the Tipton Memorial would have been Alfred, and I agree. The difficulty in finding Alfred was because he is not commemorated by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission, and so did not look like a military death.

This is saying it could be an Alfred Hale. I wonder if his service number can be searched?

[kdwoodie]

The arthur that was married to Sarah was born 18/6/89

There are two Arthurs born 1889 in Dudley

HALE, ARTHUR NICHOLLS
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 91


HALE, ARTHUR WORTON
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 82

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[kdwoodie]

The arthur that was married to Sarah was born 18/6/89

There are two Arthurs born 1889 in Dudley

HALE, ARTHUR NICHOLLS
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 91


HALE, ARTHUR WORTON
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 82

Hale, Arthur (313296).jpg

[grangers14]

Thank you kdw!

The other Arthur I think is this one
First name(s) Arthur
Last name Hale
Age 28
Birth year 1889
Birth county Staffordshire
Birth country England
Service number 39880
Regiment Staffordshire Regiment
Unit / Battalion 5th Battalion
Year 1917
Residence town Wolverhampton

Looks like he was a bit naughty, deserting and stealing a horse in service! He married Harriet Lambert and was living 41 /42 Hill Street Ruiton Upper Gornal 1911.

So it must be the right Arthur and for that grave.

[mjay]

Thank you Jo & Kdw
Going to take some serious brain power to work through this one

[grangers14]

The post kdw posted is Cricket Meadow...same address.

1901. 12, Crickett Meadow, Sedgley
Eli Flavel, haed, 42, Lime stone miner
Hannah J, wife, 39,
Edward, son, 18,
Henry, son, 16,
Samuel, son,14,
Hannah, daur, 10,
Eli, son, 8,
Rachel, daur, 2,
All born Upper Gornal

1911. 12 Cricket Meadow Upper Gornal, Sedgley
Hannah Flavell, head, W, 49,
Sarah, daur, 21,
Hannah, daur, 20, Brick Borer
Eli, son, 18, Moulder
Rachel, daur, 12
All born Sedgley

[mjay]

The post kdw posted is Cricket Meadow...same address.

1901. 12, Crickett Meadow, Sedgley
Eli Flavel, haed, 42, Lime stone miner
Hannah J, wife, 39,
Edward, son, 18,
Henry, son, 16,
Samuel, son,14,
Hannah, daur, 10,
Eli, son, 8,
Rachel, daur, 2,
All born Upper Gornal

1911. 12 Cricket Meadow Upper Gornal, Sedgley
Hannah Flavell, head, W, 49,
Sarah, daur, 21,
Hannah, daur, 20, Brick Borer
Eli, son, 18, Moulder
Rachel, daur, 12
All born Sedgley

Thanks Jo I've added the above

[mjay]

Thank you kdw!

The other Arthur I think is this one
First name(s) Arthur
Last name Hale
Age 28
Birth year 1889
Birth county Staffordshire
Birth country England
Service number 39880
Regiment Staffordshire Regiment
Unit / Battalion 5th Battalion
Year 1917
Residence town Wolverhampton

Looks like he was a bit naughty, deserting and stealing a horse in service! He married Harriet Lambert and was living 41 /42 Hill Street Ruiton Upper Gornal 1911.

So it must be the right Arthur and for that grave.

Is the above this one ?
HALE, ARTHUR WORTON
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 82

[kdwoodie]

Arthur Hale with service number 39880 married Harriet Lambert in 1913, they had a son Clarence Victor James. He was declared a deserter in 1919.

HALE Arthur LAMBERT Harriet 1913 Dudley Register Office Dudley Register Office DRO/033/37

HALE, CLARENCE VICTOR JAMES LAMBERT
GRO Reference: 1914 S Quarter in MONMOUTH Volume 11A Page 49

Arthurs parents
Dudley
St James
Parish Register
Register entry number 473
Marriage date 21 Aug 1870
James HALL 21 bachelor Coal Dealer Dudley Joseph HALL Labourer
Elizabeth WHARTON 22 spinster Dudley John WHARTON Nailer
Witness 1 William MASSEY
Witness 2 Esther MASSEY
Notes Groom, Bride & Witnesses sign X

1891 42 Hill Street Sedgley
James Hale Head M 42 Labpurer at Coal Mine
Elizabeth Hale Wife M 43
Esther Hale Daur S 21 (Fits)
James Hale Son S 17 Mopulder at Ironworks
Hannah Hale Daur S 15 Coal Dealer
Joseph Hale Son S 13 Coal Dealer
Ann M Hale Daur 11 Scholar
Arthur Hale Son 2
All born Sedgley

Possibly James on BCC https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=532246

[mjay]

Thanks Kdw
Think I'll start a new thread for this Arthur Hale