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Lydia unknown abt 1832 on BCC. KDW adding to BCC

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Lydia unknown abt 1832 on BCC.

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LILLEY, NAOMI EMMA MORGAN.
GRO Reference: 1853 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 125.

LILLEY, RACHAEL MORGAN.
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 5.

LILLEY, JAMES MORGAN.
GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 21.

Rowley Regis St Giles.
Marriage date 18 Feb 1849.
James LILLEY. AGE 17. Miner. Mincing Lane. Edward LILLEY. Nailer.
Lydia MORGAN. age 17. Mincing Lane. John MORGAN. Miner.
Witness 1 John MORGAN.
Witness 2 Selina PARKES.
Notes Groom, Bride & both Witnesses sign X.
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1861: Blackheath, Rowley Regis.
James Lilley 29. Nailer.
Lydia Lilley 29.
Mary A Lilley 10 Dau.
Naomi Lilley 7 Dau.
Rachel Lilley 6 Dau.
Eli Lilley 2 Son.
Elvis?? (Alice) Lilley 1 Month Dau.
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kdw adding.

I have added this so far https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =867050675

I have added parents of James as Edward and Hannah Robinson but am really not sure as i can find only a couple of Baptisms for children

Dudley
St Thomas
Register entry number 2054
Baptism date 26 Feb 1837
Person forename Mirah
Person sex F
Father forename Edward
Mother forename Hannah
Father surname LILLEY
Person abode Woodside
Father occupation Nailer

Dudley
St Thomas
Register entry number 2053
Birth date 17 Dec 1834
Baptism date 26 Feb 1837
Person forename Ruth
Person sex F
Father forename Edward
Mother forename Hannah
Father surname LILLEY
Person abode Woodside
Father occupation Nailer

GRO has these

LILLEY, EDWARD GILL
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 278

LILLEY, ANN MARIA GILL
GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 268

and this marriage
Wolverhampton
St Peter
Parish Register
Marriage date 1 Oct 1833
Edward LILLEY
Hannah GILL
Witness1 Harriot LILLEY
Witness2 John BIDDULPH

Have i connected up wrongly ?

I can find no Lilley children after 1837 with MMN Robinson
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Possible Hannah Gill was Edwards second wife,

There is no birth record on GRO for Susannah or Jemima,

1841 Woodside Dudley.
Edward Lilley 30 Nailer.
Hannah Lilley 30.
James Lilley 8.
Ruth Lilley 5.
Jemima Lilley 3.
Susannah Lilley 1.
All born in County.

Tipton St Martin.
Marriage date 22 Mar 1857.
Richard COLEY. 20. bachelor. Miner. Tipton Green. Richard COLEY. Farmer.
Susanna LILLEY. 17. spinster. Nailer. Tipton Green. Edward LILLEY. Nail Maker.
Witness 1 Richard SLATER.
Witness 2 Susanna SLATER.
Notes Groom, Bride & both Witnesses sign X.
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The marriage for Edward and Hannah Gill on Wolverhampton Parish Reg says Bachelor and Spinster.

To confuse things even more there is this marriage for a Lilley and Gill
Staffordshire 
Kingswinford
St. Mary
Marriage date
01 Nov 1830
William LILLEY Kingswinford
Harriet GILLBride Kingswinford
Witness1Maria HICKMANS
Witness2William HICKMANS
NotesGroom, bride and both witnesses sign by mark

So which Lilley/Gill children belong to who?

I am really confused.
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1851. Woodside, Dudley.
William Lilley 42. nailer.
Harriet Lilley 40.
Elizth Lilley 14.
Mary Ann Lilley 9.
Abigail Lilley 5.
William Lilley 4.
Simon Lilley 2.
Mary Lilley 2 Mo.

LILLEY, MARY ANN GILL.
GRO Reference: 1842 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 287.

LILLEY, ABIGAIL GILL.
GRO Reference: 1844 D Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 252.

LILLEY, WILLIAM GILL.
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 872.

LILLEY, SIMEON GIL.
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 309.

LILLEY, MERCY GILL.
GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 284. could be Mary on census.
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Thanks Jimmy, could william be Edwards brother ?

I have just found this
Name: Joseph Lilly
Gender: Male
Event Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 14 May 1827
Baptism Date: 26 May 1827
Baptism Place: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Denomination: Wesleyan
Father:
Edward Lilly
Mother:
Hanah Robinson

Hannah is the daughter of Thomas and Hannah Robinson

Joseph is living with Grandfather James in 1841

I think Mirah is Jemima on census.
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1851 Holly Hall Dudley.
Edward Lilly Head Mar 44 Nailer Born Woodside.
Hannah Lilly Wife Mar 45 Born Spring Mire.
Rush Lilly Daur 16 (Looks like Ruth on Image ).
Dianal Lilly Daur 14 Scholar (Looks like Dianah on Image).
Susana Lilly Daur 11.
Edward Lilly Son 6.
Ann Maria Lilly Daur 3.
Others born Holly Hall.

LILLEY, EDWARD GILL.
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 278.

LILLEY, ANN MARIA GILL.
GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 268.

possible for Susannah,

LILLEY, - GILL.
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 257.
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Jimmy wrote:1851 Holly Hall Dudley.
Edward Lilly Head Mar 44 Nailer Born Woodside.
Hannah Lilly Wife Mar 45 Born Spring Mire.
Rush Lilly Daur 16 (Looks like Ruth on Image ).
Dianal Lilly Daur 14 Scholar (Looks like Dianah on Image).
Susana Lilly Daur 11.
Edward Lilly Son 6.
Ann Maria Lilly Daur 3.
Others born Holly Hall.

LILLEY, EDWARD GILL.
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 278.

LILLEY, ANN MARIA GILL.
GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 268.


Why do they have the name GILL?
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kdwoodie wrote:Thanks Jimmy, could william be Edwards brother ?



Dudley St Thomas.
Baptism date 21 Dec 1806.
Person forename Edward.
Father forename James.
Mother forename Ruth.
Father surname LILLEY.

Dudley St Thomas.
Baptism date 20 Jan 1811.
Person forename Will.m.
Father forename James.
Mother forename Ruth.
Father surname LILLEY.
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Dudley St Thomas.
Baptism date 26 Feb 1837.
Person forename Mirah LILLEY.
Father Edward LILLEY
Mother Hannah.
Person abode Woodside.
Father occupation Nailer.
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Edward added here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... i=60782865

William added here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =880970598

Can someone please check then this is completed and can be archived.

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Looks fine to me!
I will archive. Thank you. :wink:
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