ARc pend look up! -Mary Hannah While b1874

[Northern Lass]

I think we have Sarah on the site already need to check that marriage to her and Isaac
I think this is her...maybe
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =332290193

[Northern Lass]

So if Isaac Hodgkins and Sarah Willetts married in 1860 and Edward Hodgkins Willetts born 1875
then he should be a Hodgkins!
so why is he a Willetts and down on marriage as illegitimate with father on cert as Isaac Hodgkins
dont get that

[Northern Lass]

he is down as G.son in 1881 of Isaac and sarah

and is this his mother..think it may be!

1871: 34 Baptist End, Dudley, Worc
Isaac Bane Hodgkins 39 Head Coke Burner
Sarah Hodgkins 39 Wife Nailer
Caroline Willetts 19 Wlfe's dau UElizabeth Hodgkins 10 Dau
Eve Hodgkins 3 months Dau
all born Dudley, Worc

1881.

Isaac HODGKINS. Head M Male 49 Dudley, Worcester, Breeze Dealer (Coke).
Sarah HODGKINS. Wife M Female 49 Dudley, Worcester.
Elizabeth HODGKINS. Daur U Female 20 Dudley, Worcester.
Eve HODGKINS. Daur Female 10 Dudley, Worcester,Scholar.
Sarah HODGKINS. Daur Female 8 Dudley, Worcester, Scholar.
Edward WILLETTS. Gr Son Male 7 Dudley, Worcester, Scholar.
Adam JONES. Gr Son Male 3 Rowley, Stafford, Scholar.

123 Garratts Lane.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.


here is the link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

[mallosa]

Found this Marriage.. here
24 MAR 1831 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick
John HODGKINS Sarah BATE

[Jimmy]

When Sarah Willetts married Isaac Hodgkins had she been married before.

[Northern Lass]

When Sarah Willetts married Isaac Hodgkins had she been married before.

But even if she was that wouldnt answer why Edward born way after the 1860 marriage was called Willetts

unless......could Isaac be the father and Caroline Willetts Sarahs dau be the mother


well it has happened!!

need that birth cert
anyone find the bapt or birth index ref

[Jimmy]

Take your pick.

West Midlands Birth 1872.
WILLETTS Edward. Rowley Regis. Sandwell Register Office. RR/55/398.

West Midlands Birth 1873.
WILLETTS Edward. Dudley. Dudley Register Office. DUD/134/181.
WILLETTS Edward. Stourbridge. Dudley Register Office. STO/061/177.

West Midlands Birth indexes 1874.
WILLETTS Edward. Halesowen. Dudley Register Office. HAL/035/213.

[Northern Lass]

Oh heck!

dont suppose he was Edward hodgkiss on cert registered?

trouble is I cant specify a mother as dont know and father.....hmmmm dont know

so need to narrow it down via age on census and that marriage

So come on who is good at maths

here is the marriage..age 22 by 9 Feb 1896
and on 1881 census which was taken April? age 7

Marriage info by Jan
9 Feb 1896 St Andrews Dudley
-Edward Hodgkins Willetts- 22- bach- labourer- Darby End- Isaac Hodgkins ( Illegitimate)
-Mary Ann While- 21- spinster- Darby End- John While
banns
both signed
Wit- Can`t read em!

[Northern Lass]

Take your pick.

West Midlands Birth 1872.
WILLETTS Edward. Rowley Regis. Sandwell Register Office. RR/55/398.

Births Sep 1872
Willetts Edward Dudley 6c 8


West Midlands Birth 1873.
WILLETTS Edward. Dudley. Dudley Register Office. DUD/134/181.

WILLETTS Edward. Stourbridge. Dudley Register Office. STO/061/177.
Births Jun 1873
Willetts Edward Stourbridge 6c 194


West Midlands Birth indexes 1874.
WILLETTS Edward. Halesowen. Dudley Register Office. HAL/035/213.
Births Dec 1874
WILLETTS Edward Stourbridge 6c 182

just inseted the qtrs i think

and there was this one based on staffs as county
Births Mar 1874
Willetts Edward Dudley 6c 1

cant find this one on free bmd either in Staffs or Worcs

West Midlands Birth 1873.
WILLETTS Edward. Dudley. Dudley Register Office. DUD/134/181.

[Northern Lass]

need to know when that 1873 one was regis cos by my maths...

could be 1873 but b'day after 9 Feb that would make him 22 in 1896

or

1874 march regis birthday before 9 feb 1896

help!

[Northern Lass]

can someone have a look at this and see what they think?

I think mother is that Caroline Willetts and Isaac has been put down to keep up appearances

if I can narrow down a birth I can send for it.

wonder what others on ances trees say....can anyone have a look?
and what happened to that Caroline Willetts

[Northern Lass]

Ok can we find that Caroline Willetts Sarahs dau on the census please

I want to know if the Sarah Willetts born 1832 is the one here married to Isaac Hodgkins

her father is Elisha

but I want to know about this Caroline Willetts

[Northern Lass]

1871: 34 Baptist End, Dudley, Worc
Isaac Bane Hodgkins 39 Head Coke Burner
Sarah Hodgkins 39 Wife Nailer
Caroline Willetts 19 Wlfe's dau U
Elizabeth Hodgkins 10 Dau
Eve Hodgkins 3 months Dau
all born Dudley, Worc

1881.123 Garratts Lane.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.

Isaac HODGKINS. Head M Male 49 Dudley, Worcester, Breeze Dealer (Coke).
Sarah HODGKINS. Wife M Female 49 Dudley, Worcester.
Elizabeth HODGKINS. Daur U Female 20 Dudley, Worcester.
Eve HODGKINS. Daur Female 10 Dudley, Worcester,Scholar.
Sarah HODGKINS. Daur Female 8 Dudley, Worcester, Scholar.
Edward WILLETTS. Gr Son Male 7 Dudley, Worcester, Scholar.
Adam JONES. Gr Son Male 3 Rowley, Stafford, Scholar.



here is the link
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

[Northern Lass]

This is odd.... 1861 census Isaac Hodgins wife Sarah at Baptist end

no Caroline Willetts where is she on the 1861

[FarSide]

Don't see her