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Eliza unknown abt 1843 on BCC.--completed

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Eliza unknown abt 1843 on BCC.

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=529578

Ancestry, image available.

Eliza is Watton on image.

William Clay. Full age.Bachelor. Rivit maker. Moor Street. Joseph Clay. Nailer.
Eliza Walton. Full age. Spinster. Moor Street. John Walton. Brick maker.
Marriage Date: 8 Aug 1864
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire.

1871. Olive Lane, The Hill.
William Clay 30. Rivit maker. Long Lane.
Eliza Clay 29. Kates Hill Worcs.
Arthur Clay 6. Cocksheads Worcs.
Ann Elizabeth Clay 11/12. Cocksheads Worcs.
Joseph Clay 33. Lodger. Labourer. Long Lane.

1881. Cottage, Olive Lane, The Hill.
William Clay 40. Rivit maker. Long Lane.
Eliza Clay 39. Kates Hill Worcs.
Arthur Clay 16. Cocksheads Worcs.
Elizabeth Clay 10. Cocksheads Worcs.

1891. Olive Lane, The Hill.
William Clay 58. Stone quarry labourer. Halesowen. 51 on image.
Eliza Clay 49. Dudley.
Ann E Clay 20. Dau. Halesowen.

1901. Olive Lane, The Hill.
William Clay 58. Halesowen.
Eliza Clay 56. Dudley.
Arthur E Clay 7. Halesowen.

CLAY, ARTHUR WATTON.
GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 186.

CLAY, ANN ELIZABETH WATTON.
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 164.
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CLAY, JOSEPH ROBINSON.
GRO Reference: 1838 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 420.

CLAY, WILLIAM ROBINSON.
GRO Reference: 1840 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 414.

CLAY, HENRY ROBINSON.
GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 451.

Halesowen St John the Baptist.
Marriage date 5 Sep 1824.
Joseph CLAY. Otp. Bachelor.
Hannah ROBINSON. Otp. Spinster.
Witness 1 George G FIDDIAN..
Witness 2 Phoebe ROBINSON.

There is also another marriage for Hannah Robinson and a William Clay on the same date. on BCC, and on FreeReg.

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=529579

1841 Long Lane Halesowen.
William Clay. 40. Nailer.
Hannah Clay 35.
James Clay 10.
Timothy Clay 7.
Edward Clay 5.
Joseph Clay 2.
William Clay 1.
Sarah Clay 25 Nailer.
All born in County.

1851. Long Lane, The Hill.
Joseph Clay 49. Nailer.
Hannah Clay 47.
Timothy Clay 16.
Edward Clay 14.
William Clay 9.
Heny Clay 7.
Hannah Clay 5.

All born Halesowen.
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There is also another marriage for Hannah Robinson and a William Clay on the same date. on BCC, and on FreeReg
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My mistake,

Note :- Joseph Clay at 1851 Census and on his marriage record but William Clay on sons. marriage record and on 1841 Census

1841 Census Long Lane Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
William Clay 40 Nailer
Hannah Clay 35
James Clay 10
Timothy Clay 7
Edward Clay 5
Joseph Clay 2
William Clay 1
Sarah Clay 25 Nailer
All born in County

1851 Census Long Lane New England Hill Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
Joseph Clay Head 49 Nailer
Hannah Clay wife 47
Timothy Clay son 16 Nailer
Edward Clay son 14
William Clay son 9
Henry Clay son 7
Hannah Clay dau 6
All born Halesowen Worcs.
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Looked for William in 1861 and found this....

says ROLLASON on image

1861 Census: Cocksheds Lane, Hill. Worc
Nancy Rollason 56 Head Wid Dudley, Worc
Alfred Rollason 19 Son Rowley
Joseph William Rollason 17 Son Forgeman Rowley
Matthias Rollason 11 Son Shoe Maker Rowley
William Clay 21 Lodger Unm Nailer/(taken to as orphan) Halesowen, Worc
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mallosa wrote:Looked for William in 1861 and found this....

says ROLLASON on image

1861 Census: Cocksheds Lane, Hill. Worc
Nancy Rollason 56 Head Wid Dudley, Worc
Alfred Rollason 19 Son Rowley
Joseph William Rollason 17 Son Forgeman Rowley
Matthias Rollason 11 Son Shoe Maker Rowley
William Clay 21 Lodger Unm Nailer/(taken to as orphan) Halesowen, Worc


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Could be.
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I have just been looking at this.

I think it probably is William on that census.

I think this may possibly be Hannah Clay
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=530389

Then this...
1861. Coombes Wood, Gosty Hill, Hill
John Plant, head, 35, Nailer, Dudley Wood
Hannah Plant, wife, 48, Nailer, NK
Henry Clay, Illegitimate child, 20, Rivet Maker, Hill Township

They are on BCC here so looks like Hannah Robinson is on twice.
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I'm sorry, I'm lost on this now :?
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So are William Clay and Joseph Clay the same person

looks like on Henrys mar down as Joseph clay for father

then Hannah Robinson marries a plant?
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I think William is Joseph,

Dudley St Thomas.
Marriage date 23 Mar 1852.
John PLANT. of full age. bachelor. Nailer. Dudley. John PLANT, Nailer.
Hannah CLAY. of full age. widow. Dudley. James ROBINSON. Nailer.
Witness 1 Elizabeth HYDE.
Witness 2 Thomas JAMES.
Notes By Banns-Groom Bride & witness 2 marked X. Witness 1 signed.

Not on Freebmd or GRO.
Halesowen St John the Baptist.
Burial date 25 Jun 1851.
Joseph CLAY. age 46.
Burial person abode The Hill.
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I think they are same too will merge.

Think he is a William Clay to start and changes name when they themselves have a William
so takes Joseph on census and William on sons mar.

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