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kdwoodie · Post by **kdwoodie** » Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:57 pm

I have been adding this to BCC

Halesowen
St John the Baptist
Register entry number 379
Marriage date 11 Jul 1869
David MOORE 22 bachelor bricklayer Cakemore William MOORE shoemaker
Sarah TROMANS 20 spinster nailer Cakemore James TROMANS nailer
Witness 1 James TROMANS
Witness 2 Ellen MOORE

Is this the correct David https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=529635

And could this be Sarahs father https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=529635

1851 New Street Rowley Regis
James Tromans Head M 42 Horse Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Tromans Wife M 37 Born Clent
John Tromans Son 4 Scholar Born Clent
William Tromans Son 3 Born Clent
James Tromans 8 Mo Born Clent

1861 Wilkes Fold Rowley Regis
James Tromans Head Mar 51 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Tromans Wife Mar 47 Born Clent
John Tromans Son 14 Gas Tube Screwer Born Rowley Regis
William Tromans Son 13 Gas Tube Screwer Born Rowley Regis
James Tromans Son 11 Dock Lab Born Rowley Regis
Hannah Tromans Daur 9 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Tromans Daur 8 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Mary A Tromans Daur 6 Scholar Born Rowley Regis

Dudley
St Thomas
Register entry number 392
Marriage date 28 Oct 1845
James TROMANS full age Dudley widower Nailer Netherton Joseph TROMANS Nailer
Sarah GRIFFIN full age Dudley spinster Netherton Stephen GRIFFIN Nailer
Witness 1 Thomas HILL
Witness 2 Priscilla HILL
Notes By Banns-Groom & Bride signed. Witnesses marked X

TROMANS, JOHN GRIFFIN
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 289

TROMANS, WILLIAM GRIFFIN
GRO Reference: 1847 D Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 266

TROMANS, JAMES GRIFFIN
GRO Reference: 1849 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 282

TROMANS, HANNAH GRIFFIN
GRO Reference: 1851 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 315

TROMANS, SARAH GRIFFIN
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 17

TROMANS, MARY ANN GRIFFIN
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 9

Added so far https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =576356148

Checking BCC found this https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=529975

Are they the same person ?

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:16 am

Can someone else dive in and have a look pls I will have a look later and move what you need moving
or connecting up

is that what you need kdw?

kdwoodie · Post by **kdwoodie** » Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:27 am

If it is agreed James is the same person , can you please merge them and I will add the rest of the children , thanks.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:27 am

So James Tromans do we have a death for him

it does look like this is the same Sarah
1871: aged 23, living with Mother, wife and children at Peartree Street, Rowley Regis, Shropshire.
Sarah Tromans Head 58 b Clent Worcs
John son 26 labourer b RR
William son mar 25 Puddler in Iron workds b RR
Fanny dau in law 22 Nailmaker b Salop Much Wenlock
Mary ann dau 16 Nailmaker b RR
Hannah Gd dau age 1
Emma 2mths???G dau??

as mary ann is there

in which case I will delete the James Tromans to Sarah Tromans ..or rather disengage.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:29 am

Do we have Wms marriage to Fanny Clarke?

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:38 am

So we dont know really if James born 1810 is the same as James born 1805
so have left them as separate people.

kdwoodie · Post by **kdwoodie** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:41 am

Worcestershire
Halesowen
St John the Baptist
Marriage date
14 Jun 1869
William TROMANS 21 bachelor puddler Boro James TROMANS nailer
Fanny CLARK 21 spinster nailer Born Benjamin CLARK miner
Witness1Reuben SIDAWAY
Witness2Mary PEARSON

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:42 am

kdwoodie wrote:Worcestershire
Halesowen
St John the Baptist
Marriage date
14 Jun 1869
William TROMANS 21 bachelor puddler Boro James TROMANS nailer
Fanny CLARK 21 spinster nailer Born Benjamin CLARK miner
Witness1Reuben SIDAWAY
Witness2Mary PEARSON

I will add that now

here is family sorted?
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =718859844

kdwoodie · Post by **kdwoodie** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:43 am

James was a Widower on marriage to Sarah Griffin, I think it's the same person.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:47 am

kdwoodie wrote:James was a Widower on marriage to Sarah Griffin, I think it's the same person.

ok min let me connect up and see what you think will add a note

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:50 am

Ok take a look here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =943020774

can someone find the first marriage for James Tromans
was it to that Sarah Tromans
and if so can someone post it ....have lost it....the marriage that is...still got the plot...just!

kdwoodie · Post by **kdwoodie** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:56 am

Worcestershire
Dudley
St Thomas
Register entry number530
Marriage date
19 Dec 1830
James TROWMAN Dudley bachelor
Sarah TROWMAN Dudley spinster
Witness1Thomas ALLEN
Witness2Thomas TROWMAN
Notes By Banns-Groom & witness 1 signed. Bride & witness 2 marked X

kdwoodie · Post by **kdwoodie** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:58 am

Thanks for sorting Jan, can archive now. I detest Tromans.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:15 am

kdwoodie wrote:Thanks for sorting Jan, can archive now. I detest Tromans.

and me...I am not sure on that connection all the way back added that years ago

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