"Comple"Perry/Cox/Llloyd family connects to kdw-

[kdwoodie]

Thank you mumbles

[Jimmy]

I can't see anything on these on after 1851 census, or emmigration.

1851 Park Terrace Cradley
Hill Cox Head Mar 26 Wagoner born Cradley (Image looks like Will)
Mary Cox Wife Mar 27 Born Polesworth Warwickshire
Sarah A Cox Daur 9 Mo Born Cradley

COX, SARAH ANN VILLERS.
GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 461.

COX, THOMAS VILLERS.
GRO Reference: 1855 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 170.

COX, WILLIAM VILLERS.
GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 161.

[mumbles]

Freereg marriage St. Mary Lichfield 17/6/1875
Arthur Naylor 23 Bach Wheelwright Tamworth father John Naylor Wheelwright
Sarah Anne Cox 24 Sp. Lombard Street father Henry William Cox Waggoner
Witnesses :- Frederick Naylor & Clara Allsop

This validates Jimmy's 1850 Census record
also traced Sarah Anne Cox went to live with Ann Villers sister of Mary Villers in 1861 which enabled to track Villers family

[kdwoodie]

In 1871 Thomas Cox son of Henry and Mary is living with aunt Eliza Bate
Park Row
William Bate 57 Head Mar Labourer in Ironworks born Rowley Regis
Eliza Bate 56 Wife Mar Born Cradley
Joseph Bate 22 Son Unm Moulder Born Cradley
Maria Bate 16 Daughter Unm Serv Girl Born Cradley
Thomas Cox 16 Nephew Unm Millman Born Cradley

If Thomas is Nephew and living with Aunt Eliza, coud it be that the Sarah Cox who married George Gill is the daughter of Benjamin and Pheobe and not the daughter of Thomas and Nancy, that would make sense of Joseph being her nephew as in 1861 and 1871 census.

[Jimmy]

BATE, JOSEPH COX.
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 503.

BATE, MARIA COX.
GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 147.

Dudley St Thomas.
Marriage date 05 Mar 1837.
William BATE. Dudley. bachelor.
Eliza COX. Dudley. spinster.
Witness 1 Thomas ALLEN.
Witness 2 W BETE.
Notes By Banns- Bride & Groom marked X. Witness 1 signed. Witness 2 signed W.BETE Senr.

[Jimmy]

Eliza Cox on BCC,
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=526886

[kdwoodie]

1851 Park Terrace
William Bate Head Mar 35 Furnaceman Born Halesowen
Eliza Bate Wife Mar 34 Cradley
William Bate Son 12 Ironmill Boy Born Cradley
Benjamin Bate Son 10 Shop Boy Born Cradley
Samuel Bate Son 7 Scholar Born Cradley
John Bate Son 4 Scholar Born Cradley
Joseph Bate Son 2 Born Cradley

1871 Park Row
William Bate 57 Head Mar Labourer in Ironworks born Rowley Regis
Eliza Bate 56 Wife Mar Born Cradley
Joseph Bate 22 Son Unm Moulder Born Cradley
Maria Bate 16 Daughter Unm Serv Girl Born Cradley
Thomas Cox 16 Nephew Unm Millman Born Cradley

1881 6 Park Row
William Bate Head Mar 67 Forge Laborer Born Halesowen
Eliza Bate Wife Mar 66 Born Cradley
Thomas Cox Nephew Unm 26 Ironworker Born Cradley
Thomas Philips Son in Law Mar 28 Waggoner Born Tenbury Hereford
Myriah Philips Daur Mar 26 Born Cradley
Eliza H. Philips Grand Daur 1 Born Cradley
Thomas H. Philips Grandson 4 Mths Born Cradley

Name: William Bate
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Registration Year: 1883
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 69
Registration District: Stourbridge
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 107

Name: Eliza Bate
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Registration Year: 1882
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 67
Registration District: Stourbridge
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 81

Anyone see them 1861 ?

[Jimmy]

Sarah, Eliza, and Henry seem to be siblings to me.

[Jimmy]

Familysearch,

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975.

Mary Villers.
Christening 14 Mar 1824.
Polesworth, Warwickshire
father Thomas Villers.
mother Rebecca.

[mumbles]

1861 Census Town Wall Wilnescote Fazeley Tamworth Warks.
James Boulstridge Head 28 Coal Carter born Ratcliffe Leics.r
Ann Boulstridge wife 24 born Polesworth Warks.
Sarah A. Cox visitor 10 born Cradley Worcs.

It looks as if children of Henry William Cox and Mary Villers went to live with relatives after 1851 Census

Have added all I can
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =493264002

but not too happy with this marriage

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... i=30359738

[kdwoodie]

Thank you for adding.

what is wrong with the marriage?

[mumbles]

Marriage says Nancy Westwood and my entry that i did years ago says Ann N. West but could be mistake by me

I have not added Bate details

[kdwoodie]

The info i added to my own tree was Thomas and Nancy Westwood,the baptisms for the children all have mother Nancy.

Name:
Benjamin Cox
Sex:
Male
Christening Date:
1 Mar 1795
Christening Place:
Halesowen, Worcestershire, England
Christening Place (Original):
Halesowen, Worcester, England
Father's Name:
Thomas Cox
Father's Sex:
Male
Mother's Name:
Nancy
Mother's Sex:
Female

Name: Sarah Cox
Gender: Female
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 16 Apr 1797
Baptism Place: Cradley, Worcestershire, England
Denomination: Presbyterian
Father:
Thomas Cox
Mother:
Nancy Cox

Name:
Prudence Cox
Sex:
Female
Christening Date:
23 Mar 1800
Christening Place:
Halesowen, Worcestershire, England
Christening Place (Original):
Halesowen, Worcester, England
Father's Name:
Thomas Cox
Father's Sex:
Male
Mother's Name:
Nancy
Mother's Sex:
Female

Name:
Hannah Cox
Sex:
Female
Christening Date:
18 Sep 1803
Christening Place:
Cradley, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
Christening Place (Original):
Cradley, Worcester, England
Father's Name:
Thomas Cox
Father's Sex:
Male
Mother's Name:
Nancy
Mother's Sex:
Female

Do you agree that Sarah Coxwhomarried George Gill is the daughter of Benjamin and Pheobe.

I will go through it all and add what i have if you want me too.

[mumbles]

Please check and amend as necessary

[mumbles]

Added all I can including Bate details not sorted that marriage though