ARC TBC John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

[Jimmy]

NOCK, JOHN blank.
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 532.

[Jimmy]

Death,
WHEATLEY, JOHN age 52.
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 442.

Wednesbury St Bartholomew.
Burial date 22 Aug 1846.
John WHEATLEY. 52. West Bromwich.
Notes Killed in a coal pit.

[Jimmy]

Possible for John Nock born 1853, no father on marriage.

1881. Clayfield Rd, Doncaster.
David Plant 25. West Bromwich.
Hannah Plant 24. West Bromwich.
John Nock 29. Lodger. Coal miner. West Bromwich.
Sarah Nock 24. Nuneaton, Warwickshire.
Mary Ann Nock 5. West Bromwich.
Charles Nock 3. Newtown, Staffs.
Clara Nock 2. Denaby, Yorkshire.
Elizabeth Nock 3 months. Mexbro, Yorkshire.

NOCK, MARY ANN WRIGHT.
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 843.

NOCK, CHARLES WRIGHT.
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 793.

NOX, ELIZABETH WHITE.
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in DONCASTER IN THE COUNTIES OF YORK AND NOTTINGHAM Volume 09C Page 702.

Tipton St Martin.
Marriage date 02 Jun 1873.
John NOCK. 20. bachelor. Miner. Dudley Port. No father listed.
Sarah WRIGHT. 19. spinster. Dudley Port. Charles WRIGHT. Blacksmith.
Witness 1 Joseph MILLS.
Witness 2 Sarah HICKMAN.
Notes Groom's father's name and occupation not given. All parties sign by mark.

[Northern Lass]

What is the occup of David plant?

and do we have him on the 1891 to find the kids and his wifes maiden name pls

Think he might be on bcc

[Jimmy]

David Plant is a Coal miner.

Wednesbury St John.
Marriage date 24 Mar 1878.
David PLANT. 21. bachelor. Miner. Wednesbury. David PLANT. Miner.
Hannah HOWL. 20. spinster. Wednesbury. Joseph HOWL. Moulder.
Witness 1 Samuel WINDOWS.
Witness 2 Elizabeth Charlotte WINDOWS.
Notes Groom Signed with X.

[Jimmy]

1891. 7 Blacks Row, Darfield, Yorkshire.
David Plant 33. coal miner. Swan Village, Staffs.
Hannah Plant 33. Great Bridge, Staffs.
Joseph Plant 12. Swan Village, Staffs.
John J Plant 5. Wombwell, Yorkshire.
Sarah A Plant 3. Darfield, Yorkshire.
Thomas H Plant 1. Darfield, Yorkshire.

PLANT, SARAH ANN HOWL.
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 242.

PLANT, THOMAS HENRY HOWL.
GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 221.

[SharonA]

Thank you Northern lass and Jimmy for your wealth of information. I can't believe how much information you've gathered in such a short space of time. I am so grateful for your help. Sorry I haven't got back sooner but I was looking up info on John's children/grandchildren.

At the moment I'm working through the information you have given me and linking it with my info so I'll get back to you later today with an update.

Please can you guide me on how I upload the certificates for you to look at
Many thanks

[peterd]

Thank you Northern lass and Jimmy for your wealth of information. I can't believe how much information you've gathered in such a short space of time. I am so grateful for your help. Sorry I haven't got back sooner but I was looking up info on John's children/grandchildren.

At the moment I'm working through the information you have given me and linking it with my info so I'll get back to you later today with an update.

Please can you guide me on how I upload the certificates for you to look at
Many thanks

hope this helps

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[SharonA]

Thank you I will have a go

[SharonA]

These are the marriage and birth certificates I have for John Nock, more information to follow. Thank you for all your help so far!

[SharonA]

Info I have so far for John Nock:

History given by John's granddaughter: John born West Bromwich, mother Mary, father unknown, wife Sarah. Certificates (posted) support this.

I have found John and his family on the following census's

1881 Mexborough-lodger with David Plant
1891 Denaby
1901 Rotherham
1911 Brackenhill, Wakefield

Died 1938 Ackworth 85 years

1871 spouse Sarah Wright Nuneaton with parents-no sign of John

Mother Mary
1851 West Bromwich Servant
1854 marries George Wheatley
1861 onwards Mary is with George and their family no record of John.

No record of John living with his Grandfather William Nock or living with marriage witnesses that I can find.

I believe that he may have been in an orphanage or workhouse. Are these records available to view?

Thank you for your help so far

[Northern Lass]

Possible for John Nock born 1853, no father on marriage.

1881. Clayfield Rd, Doncaster.
David Plant 25. West Bromwich.
Hannah Plant 24. West Bromwich.
John Nock 29. Lodger. Coal miner. West Bromwich.
Sarah Nock 24. Nuneaton, Warwickshire.
Mary Ann Nock 5. West Bromwich.
Charles Nock 3. Newtown, Staffs.
Clara Nock 2. Denaby, Yorkshire.
Elizabeth Nock 3 months. Mexbro, Yorkshire.

NOCK, MARY ANN WRIGHT.
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 843.

NOCK, CHARLES WRIGHT.
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 793.

NOX, ELIZABETH WHITE.
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in DONCASTER IN THE COUNTIES OF YORK AND NOTTINGHAM Volume 09C Page 702.

Tipton St Martin.
Marriage date 02 Jun 1873.
John NOCK. 20. bachelor. Miner. Dudley Port. No father listed.
Sarah WRIGHT. 19. spinster. Dudley Port. Charles WRIGHT. Blacksmith.
Witness 1 Joseph MILLS.
Witness 2 Sarah HICKMAN.
Notes Groom's father's name and occupation not given. All parties sign by mark.

So this is the right JOhn Nock
Just the query is still where is he in 1861 and 1871

[SharonA]

This is the right John Nock however from his birth in 1853 until his marriage in 1873 I cannot find him. He doesn't appear. on the 1861 and 1871 census

[Jimmy]

David Plant is a Coal miner.

Wednesbury St John.
Marriage date 24 Mar 1878.
David PLANT. 21. bachelor. Miner. Wednesbury. David PLANT. Miner.
Hannah HOWL. 20. spinster. Wednesbury. Joseph HOWL. Moulder.
Witness 1 Samuel WINDOWS.
Witness 2 Elizabeth Charlotte WINDOWS.
Notes Groom Signed with X.

I have found a connection for David Plant on BCC.

I will start another post.

[Northern Lass]

This is the right John Nock however from his birth in 1853 until his marriage in 1873 I cannot find him. He doesn't appear. on the 1861 and 1871 census

Think we are stuck on this one will move to brickwalls.