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ARC...Pheby BATTY (b.1786) on BCC

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I am researching my daughter-in-law’s family and Phebe BATTY is one of her great (x5) grandmothers. I have read the background on BCC and there is a comment that a death certificate might help to fill in some of the gaps.

I have now obtained a PDF from the General Register Office (a very quick service at the moment), and the details are:
Index: Deaths/1864/March/Dudley/6C/16
Register: Dudley/Rowley Regis/1864/No 411/Reg on 18th March 1864
Death on 12th March 1864 at Gorsty Hill, Rowley Regis, of Phebe BATTY, Female, 89 years, Wife of John Batty, Excavator.
Cause of death – General Decay
Informant – The mark of Maria Berrisford, in attendance, Waterfall Lane, Rowley Regis

It seems that this is the right Phebe Batty, as the informantis likely to be Phebe’s daughter who appears in the 1841 Census as Mariah Parkes, and as Maria Bater on her marriage to Edward Berresford in 1847.

But does this help? And, is John Batty the same as John Parkes, and when did he die?
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But does this help? And, is John Batty the same as John Parkes, and when did he die?

Burials
St Giles Rowley Regis
20 Mar 1864 Phoebe BATTY Gosta Hill Age 88 years
30 Mar 1864 John PARKES Waterfall Lane Age 67 years
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Many thanks for this, rockyfowler!
I had been confused by John's age on the various censuses and the large number of possible hits for deaths in 1861 to 1870. I will certainly follow this up.
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is this query completed?
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I can't add any more on this, but will post separately on John Parkes.
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Just looking at this
So Phebe Batty is Phebe Harris
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... onnections

I will amend on Bcc.
I will add in notes that death info
and put courtesy of your username on this forum is that ok?

added here..
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =918905368
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Can anyone find this marriage pls date church etc.
JOHN BATY Marriages:
Spouse: PHEBE CADMORE
Messages:
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I have put phebe as a Harris with note.
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familysearch,

John Baty.
Phebe Cadmore.
Marriage 15 Sep 1806.
Aston juxta Birmingham, Warwickshire.
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Thanks Jimmy have put phoebe as unknown as could be either marriage.
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Thanks, Northern Lass.

But I am still a bit confused about John Batty vs. John Parkes, as the marriage certificates for Phebe's various children (Elizabeth, Mariah, Samuel and Eli) seem to indicate either no father or John Parkes.
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Phoebe was a prostitute ? common in the day kind regards RF
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nugentsmith wrote:Thanks, Northern Lass.

But I am still a bit confused about John Batty vs. John Parkes, as the marriage certificates for Phebe's various children (Elizabeth, Mariah, Samuel and Eli) seem to indicate either no father or John Parkes.


that death though for phebe is interesting where it says husband is a John Batty so maybe she left him and went to live
with John parkes
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