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Dudley
St Andrew
Marriage date
26 Nov 1893
James WHALE 21 bachelor Miner 61 Himley Rd. Dudley William WHALE Horsenailer
Rachel PEARSON 21 spinster 12 Dudley St. Dudley William PEARSON Miner
Witness 1 David MACKAY
Witness 2 Annie WHALE
Notes Bride's father is deceased
On Ancestry hints that come up have Rachel Binnall, some of Rachel and James children are registered with the name Binnall or Binnard
WHALE, EMILY JANE BINNALL
GRO Reference: 1895 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 109
WHALE, WILLIAM BINNARD
GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 121
WHALE, MARY AMELIA PEARSON
GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 122
WHALE, JOHN THOMAS PEARSON
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 121
WHALE, ANNIE PEARSON
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 114
WHALE, EMMANUEL BINNARD
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 105
WHALE, EDWARD BINARD
GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 101
Then there is this
1881 84 Duke of York Yd Dudley
Samuel Rhodes Head Mar 42 Nailer
Mary Rhodes Wife Mar 46 Nailer
Samuel Rhodes Son Unm 15 Nailer
Rosannah Rhodes Daur Unm 13 Scholar
Sarah Rhodes Son 8 Scholar
Harry Rhodes Son 6 Scholar
Rachel Ann Binnall Niece 9 Scholar
(not transcribed)
All born Dudley
BINNALL, RACHEL ANN PEARSON
GRO Reference: 1871 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 112
Name: Rachel Ann Binnell
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 26 Jul 1871
Baptism Date: 5 Nov 1871
Baptism Place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England
Father: William Binnell
Mother: Mary
FHL Film Number: 378782, 378784, 378785
Sedgley
All Saints
Register entry number 435
Marriage date
15 Aug 1859
William BINNALL 32 widower Nailer Dudley Benjamin BINNALL Miner
Mary PEARSON 24 spinster Dudley Joseph PEARSON Nailer
Witness 1 Edward NICHOLLS
Witness 2 Sarah SHAKESPEAR
Notes All sign X
I can't work out why the name Pearson if Rachel was born after the marriage of parents
The only Rachel Pearson has MMN Hart
PEARSON, RACHEL HART
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 22
Archive please Help please Rachel Pearson
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
Strange? 
I was thinking at first if it was a mistake on the marriage record but not if some children have Pearson?
On 1911 it says married 40 years...
I was thinking at first if it was a mistake on the marriage record but not if some children have Pearson?
On 1911 it says married 40 years...
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
It's driviing me mad, 1881 shes a niece but i cant find anything to suggest a connection.
Who was married 40 years in 1911?
Who was married 40 years in 1911?
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
Rachel and James Whale
Then there is this
1881 84 Duke of York Yd Dudley
Samuel Rhodes Head Mar 42 Nailer
Mary Rhodes Wife Mar 46 Nailer
Samuel Rhodes Son Unm 15 Nailer
Rosannah Rhodes Daur Unm 13 Scholar
Sarah Rhodes Son 8 Scholar
Harry Rhodes Son 6 Scholar
Rachel Ann Binnall Niece 9 Scholar
(not transcribed)
All born Dudley
That is all I can think to try and connect? Mother looks like it could be Shields?
Then there is this
1881 84 Duke of York Yd Dudley
Samuel Rhodes Head Mar 42 Nailer
Mary Rhodes Wife Mar 46 Nailer
Samuel Rhodes Son Unm 15 Nailer
Rosannah Rhodes Daur Unm 13 Scholar
Sarah Rhodes Son 8 Scholar
Harry Rhodes Son 6 Scholar
Rachel Ann Binnall Niece 9 Scholar
(not transcribed)
All born Dudley
That is all I can think to try and connect? Mother looks like it could be Shields?
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
Rachel and James were married 18 years in 1911
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
Dudley
St John
Marriage date
20 Nov 1854
Thomas PARKES Full Age bachelor Collier Dudley Thomas PARKES Labourer
Rebecca SHIELDS Full Age spinster Dudley William SHILEDS Spade Maker
Witness 1 Richard SHIELDS
Witness 2 Mary Ann Shields
Lower Gornal
St James the Great
Register entry number 434
Marriage date
23 May 1864
Samuel RHODES 26 bachelor Nailer Shavers End George RHODES Nailer
Rebecca PARKES 26 widow Shavers End William SHEEN Spade Maker
Witness 1 George RHODES
Witness 2 Emily HARDIMAN
Can't see a connection to Binnal or Pearson
St John
Marriage date
20 Nov 1854
Thomas PARKES Full Age bachelor Collier Dudley Thomas PARKES Labourer
Rebecca SHIELDS Full Age spinster Dudley William SHILEDS Spade Maker
Witness 1 Richard SHIELDS
Witness 2 Mary Ann Shields
Lower Gornal
St James the Great
Register entry number 434
Marriage date
23 May 1864
Samuel RHODES 26 bachelor Nailer Shavers End George RHODES Nailer
Rebecca PARKES 26 widow Shavers End William SHEEN Spade Maker
Witness 1 George RHODES
Witness 2 Emily HARDIMAN
Can't see a connection to Binnal or Pearson
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
kdwoodie wrote:Rachel and James were married 18 years in 1911
Yes I missed read!
I wonder if we add what there is and see if we sift through?
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
Added rachels parents here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... i=90165618
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
1st marriage for William?
County Worcestershire
Place (Links to more information) Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 342
Marriage date 26 Oct 1846
Groom forename William
Groom surname BINNALL
Groom age of full age
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Miner
Groom abode Dudley
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname BARNETT
Bride age of full age
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Dudley
Groom father forename Benjamin
Groom father surname BINNALL
Groom father occupation Miner (deceased)
Bride father forename Daniel
Bride father surname BARNETT
Bride father occupation Boatman (deceased)
Witness1 Edward TAYLOR
Witness2 Ann BRADLEY
Notes By Banns-Groom Bride & witnesses marked X
County Worcestershire
Place (Links to more information) Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 342
Marriage date 26 Oct 1846
Groom forename William
Groom surname BINNALL
Groom age of full age
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Miner
Groom abode Dudley
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname BARNETT
Bride age of full age
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Dudley
Groom father forename Benjamin
Groom father surname BINNALL
Groom father occupation Miner (deceased)
Bride father forename Daniel
Bride father surname BARNETT
Bride father occupation Boatman (deceased)
Witness1 Edward TAYLOR
Witness2 Ann BRADLEY
Notes By Banns-Groom Bride & witnesses marked X
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 2552
Birth date 29 Dec 1824
Baptism date 30 Jan 1831
Person forename William
Person sex M
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Rachael
Father surname BINNALL
Person abode Dudley
Father occupation Collier
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 2552
Birth date 29 Dec 1824
Baptism date 30 Jan 1831
Person forename William
Person sex M
Father forename Benjamin
Mother forename Rachael
Father surname BINNALL
Person abode Dudley
Father occupation Collier
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
?? Could it be Rachel should be step daughter?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1876
RHODES Samuel BINNELL Mary 1876 Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/004/353
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1876
RHODES Samuel BINNELL Mary 1876 Lower Gornal, St James Dudley Register Office 215/004/353
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
Transcription
Marriage
17th April 1876, Lower Gornall
Samuel Rhodes, 38, Nailer, Lower Gornall George Rhodes
Mary Bimele, 40, Lower Gornall, Joseph Pearson deceased
Marriage
17th April 1876, Lower Gornall
Samuel Rhodes, 38, Nailer, Lower Gornall George Rhodes
Mary Bimele, 40, Lower Gornall, Joseph Pearson deceased
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
You are a star Jo
Rachel was born 1871
I think William died 1872
Dudley
St James
Parish Register
Register entry number 237
Burial date 03 Mar 1872
Burial person forename William
Burial person surname BINNALL
Person age 46
Burial person abode Dudley
Rachel was born 1871
I think William died 1872
Dudley
St James
Parish Register
Register entry number 237
Burial date 03 Mar 1872
Burial person forename William
Burial person surname BINNALL
Person age 46
Burial person abode Dudley
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Re: Help please Rachel Pearson
This is getting complicated
Dudley
St John
Marriage date
20 Nov 1854
Thomas PARKES Full Age bachelor Collier Dudley Thomas PARKES Labourer
Rebecca SHIELDS Full Age spinster Dudley William SHILEDS Spade Maker
Witness 1 Richard SHIELDS
Witness 2 Mary Ann Shields
Lower Gornal
St James the Great
Register entry number 434
Marriage date
23 May 1864
Samuel RHODES 26 bachelor Nailer Shavers End George RHODES Nailer
Rebecca PARKES 26 widow Shavers End William SHEEN Spade Maker
Witness 1 George RHODES
Witness 2 Emily HARDIMAN
I found this on Ancestry
Name: William Binnall
Date of Trial: 18 Oct 1847
Trial Year: 1847
Location of Trial: Worcestershire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image
I can't find a death for First wife Mary
Dudley
St John
Marriage date
20 Nov 1854
Thomas PARKES Full Age bachelor Collier Dudley Thomas PARKES Labourer
Rebecca SHIELDS Full Age spinster Dudley William SHILEDS Spade Maker
Witness 1 Richard SHIELDS
Witness 2 Mary Ann Shields
Lower Gornal
St James the Great
Register entry number 434
Marriage date
23 May 1864
Samuel RHODES 26 bachelor Nailer Shavers End George RHODES Nailer
Rebecca PARKES 26 widow Shavers End William SHEEN Spade Maker
Witness 1 George RHODES
Witness 2 Emily HARDIMAN
I found this on Ancestry
Name: William Binnall
Date of Trial: 18 Oct 1847
Trial Year: 1847
Location of Trial: Worcestershire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: See Image
Date of Execution or Release: See Image
I can't find a death for First wife Mary