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[linell]

I was given some details on this family 1851 Peartree Street Old Hill:-

John Russ 25
Sarah Russ 25 Wife
Sarah Poole 55 Mother In Law
Andrew Poole 8 Nephew

Their place of birth looks like Gloucestershire?

Andrew Poole I have traced up to 1901, he Marries a Louisa Jones Halesowen 1862. Their daughter Esther Poole Marries Mark Frederick Leedham. It is not his future I am looking into rather his family roots.

It is really the Russ connection that I am flagging, we have some Russ's already on BCC from Peartree Street, somehow this family fit in. Would like to find out who this Russ family are, and if Sarah Poole is 8 year old Andrew's Mother?

Another connection is Gorsty Hill, Andrew and his family later lived in Gorsty Hill, so did some of the Willetts and Priests we have already traced from Peartree Street. At a guess I would think it was something to do with working on the Canal up there?

Many thanks from Linell.

[Jimmy]

This looks possible, with the Andrew connection.

SARAH POOL.
Christening, 26 NOV 1826. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Parents:
ANDREW POOL.
SARAH.

ANDREW POOLE.
SARAH DAVENPORT.
Marriage, 25 DEC 1815, Halesowen, Worcester.

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Marriage 1846.
POOLE Sarah, RUSK John, Dudley, St Thomas, Dudley Register Office, 204/007/136.

Extracted.
JOHN RUSK.
SARAH POOLE.
Marriage, 31 MAY 1846, Saint Thomas, Dudley.

[Jimmy]

SARAH DEVONPORT.
Christening, 07 JUN 1795, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
Parents:
THOMAS DEVONPORT.
MARY.

[linell]

Cheers Jimmy, that's really helpful. So it looks as though Sarah Poole Married John Russ in 1846, her Parents were probably Andrew Poole and Sarah Davenport Married 1815, and the Andrew Poole aged 8 in 1851 must be son of one of the two Sarah's? Something to work on, many thanks from Linell.

[gardener]

Could Andrew be Josiah Andrew Poole bapt St Thos 12 sept 1841 parents Richard and Ann Pool?

Richard and Ann are in the 1841 census aged 20, with daughter Asanath bapt St Thos 13 sept 1840.

Richard would be sarah's brother ie bpt 1819 St Thos, parents Andrew and Sarah. And that would make (Josiah) Andrew the nephew of Joh Russ.

Although andrew is 8 in 1851 census he seems to be born in 1841 in the 1881 and 1891 census so that seems to work. Suppose you need his marriage details really to get his father.

Can't see Richard, Ann or any of their other children in 1851 though : Asanath 1840; Andrew 1841; Richard 1844; and Ann 1847

[gardener]

Have them in 1861 though
High St RR
Richard 42
Ann 41
Asanath 20
Richard 16
Ann 13
Mary 12
Rachel 9
Fanny 5
Hannah 1
John 5 ?m

[gardener]

OK, 1851
Primrose Hill, Dudley

Richard 32
Ann 31
Asanath 10
Richard 6
Ann 3
Mary 1

Odd if they just tossed young Andrew out though, But I suppose he might just have been visiting his aunt and grandma in 1851, then in 1861 be old enough to be left home for work reasons?

[gardener]

I was given some details on this family 1851 Peartree Street Old Hill:-

John Russ 25
Sarah Russ 25 Wife
Sarah Poole 55 Mother In Law
Andrew Poole 8 Nephew

Their place of birth looks like Gloucestershire?

John's pob is Gloucestershire, parish of Bristol, and the others are all Worcestershire, parish of (I suppose) Dudley

[Jimmy]

Other children for Andrew and Sarah Poole all extracted.

RICHD. POOL.
Birth, 04 FEB 1819.
Christening, 21 MAR 1819, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

ESTHER POOLE.
Christening, 22 APR 1821, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

GEORGE POOLE.
Birth, 02 AUG 1823.
Christening, 01 FEB 1824, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

BETSEY POOLE.
Christening, 11 JAN 1829, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

ANDREW POOLE.
Christening, 13 FEB 1831, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Death, 03 APR 1831.

[linell]

Thanks Gardener and Jimmy, just found Andrew and Sarah Poole in Netherton 1841:-

Halesowen Road
Andrew Pool 50 Iron Miner Yes
Sarah 45 Yes
Esther 20 Yes
Sarah 15 Yes (she must be the one who Married John Russ)
Sarah Ann 4

I think this is the right family. Just need to find where John Russ fits in with John Russ 1810 on BCC. Andrew Snr may connect to the Richard found by Gardener?

Linell.

[linell]

Just waiting on a Look Up now for John Russ and Sarah Poole.

[Northern Lass]

Ok added to the list
so shall we archive pend look ups?

[linell]

Hi NL, think we are missing a Russ connection here.

1851 Peartree Street
John Russ 25 born Gloucestershire
Sarah 25 Nee Poole
Sarah Poole 55
Andrew Poole 8

[b]1861 Peartree Street
Maria Russ Nee Priest HD 27 Widow of Robert Russ born 1830 - 1858
Wm 8
John 6
Charles 4
Martha 2
Mary Ann 1858 (This family is on Connections, but we have two Mary's listed one born 1858 and a Mary Ann born 1860, are they the same Mary, only one on Census?) Mary Ann born 1860 and Phoebe born 1866, can't be children of Robert and Maria as Robert died 1858 )

We know from a Marriage Look Up that Robert's father was John Russ. I found a submitted baptism for Robert 1830 and John 1825 (this is the John that Married Sarah Poole) in Siston Gloucestershire, to a John and Mary.

I think John and Mary from Siston Gloucs are the parents of John who Married Sarah Poole and Robert who Married Maria Priest. Can someone have a look at this please, as we could make another connection with the Poole family. Linell.

[Northern Lass]

We have a marriage look up for mary ann here

Marriage info
23 May 1880 St Thomas Dudley
-Foley Tromans- 21- bach-miner- Dudley- Isaac Tromans-gunsmith
-Mary Ann Russ- 20 spinster- Dudley- Robert Russ ( dead) miner
banns
X of both
Wit- Joseph Timmins and Mary Ann Bill

so father is Robert Russ for mary ann

so do we think that the mary and mary ann are one and the same?

when did Robert Russ die?
when was Mary Ann Russ registered?