Arc .Barrett Kate & Alice...

[kdwoodie]

Alice added here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=500874

John Leonard was a prisoner of war
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Full name:
Stafford, John Leonard
Mother:
Alice
Nationality:
British
Year:
1942 - 1945
Rank:
Corporal
Birth Date:
17 Sep 1910
Enlistment Date:
15 Feb 1942
Regiment:
Singapore General Hospital Royal Air Force
Service number:
931345
Category:
WO 345 Japanese Index Cards of Allied POWs 1942-1947
Description:
49: Japanese Index Cards of Allied Prisoners of War and Internees, World War II: Spendelow-Stones
Conflict Period:
World War II
It gives his wife's name as Irene Stafford living in Cathays South Wales

Marriages Mar 1933 (>99%)
Cox Irene Stafford Cardiff 11a 442
Stafford John L Cox Cardiff 11a 422

I am not sure Kate is the right person in Dorset
Unless certs are obtained we can't be sure

1939 John is living with Wife Irene and a daughter, have removed daughter as possibly still living
Name:John L Stafford
Gender:Male
Marital status:Married
Birth Date:17 Sep 1910
Residence Year:1939
Address:67 Wylverne Road,
Residence Place:Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales
Occupation:Heavy Worker - Lorry Driver Builders Merchan??
Schedule Number:39
Sub Schedule Number:1
Enumeration District:XGJA
Registration district:588/2
Inferred Spouse:Irene Stafford

Irene remarried in 1948

[peterd]

Kate and Alice were sisters and daughters of Benjamin Barrett and Mary Ann (Crupmton)

I lose them both after the 1911 census.

do you have birth cert for them or bap dates ?

[kdwoodie]

Possibility for Alice

Deaths Mar 1918
Stafford Albert E 40 Christchurch 2b 960

Name: Alice Stafford
Registration Date: Apr 1919
[May 1919]
[Jun 1919]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Spouse: Archibald Leach
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 1015

1939 67 Wylverne Road Cardiff
George Mundy M 13 Dec 73 W Cranedriver - G W R Power Dock - General Capt
Alice Leach F 18 Feb 87 M Invalid
Same address as John Leonard Stafford

Name: Alice Leach
Death Age: 80
Birth Date: abt 1887
Registration Date: Jul 1967
[Aug 1967]
[Sep 1967]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 123

[kdwoodie]

I think i have found Kate

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1923
BARRETT Kate E HANCOX Herbert J 1923 Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/010/346

1939 19 Exeter Palce Windmill Birmingham
Herbert J Hancox M 9 July 94 M Window Cleaner
Kate E Hancox F 18 Oct 91 M Unpaid Domestic Duty

Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
19 Exeter Place
Ernest J Hancox
Kate E Hancox
Ernest B Hancox
Lenard Hancox

Births Dec 1924
Hancox Ernest B Barrett Birmingham S. 6d 219

Births Mar 1928
Hancox Leonard Barrett Stourbridge 6c 36

Name: Herbert James Hancox
Death Date: 29 Nov 1955
Death Place: Birmingham, England
Probate Date: 2 May 1958
Probate Registry: Birmingham, England

HANCOX Herbert James of 19 Exeter Place Windmill Street Birmingham 1 died 29 November 1955 at St. Chads Hospital Birmingham Administration Birmingham 2 May to Kate Elizabeth Hancox widow . Effects £234 13s 5d

Not sure about this age is out
Name: Kate Elizabeth Hancox
Death Age: 86
Birth Date: 28 Jul 1910
Registration Date: Nov 1996
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: West Midlands
Register Number: L5B
District and Subdistrict: 0611L
Entry Number: 239

[kdwoodie]

Archive ?

[patrick16101965]

Hi

I had overlooked Kate marrying Hancox as she is not referred to as Kate E anywhere else.

I also had both of Alice's boys as dying during the war.

There was a possibility that Kate travelled to America and I found a Kate Barrett with the same DOB on a ships list in 1910.

[kdwoodie]

Have you got the birth cert for Kate ?

BARRETT, KATE ELIZABETH -
GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 159

I have requested a look up for the marriage between Kate and Herbert.

All other children that are listed as Benjamin and Marys have mothers maiden name as Crumpton.

John L Stafford could have died during the war as his wife remarried in 1948, i haven't found anything on Albert

[patrick16101965]

I don't have any paperwork at all.

The main initial interest in Kate & Alice was to see if they provided the America link by marrying a Powell.This was heightened when they 'disappeared' after the census.


I found this on Albert.

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casu ... rt-edward/

[kdwoodie]

Thanks for the info re Albert, I think it's best to wait for marriage to be looked up.

[Northern Lass]

Do you want to archive this pending look up then we can bring it back with look up ?

[kdwoodie]

Ok by me

[Northern Lass]

Unless anything else is needed on this pending look ups will move to archived
and it can be moved back when info sought.

flagging to arc pending look ups.

[patrick16101965]

Can the archives be viewed?

[Northern Lass]

Can the archives be viewed?

Yes here
viewforum.php?f=31

ONce a topic is answered or stuff being waited on re look ups we archive and /or bring back
when more info is forthcoming re certifs.

if a topic sticks in this section...ie can't answer it it gets moved to brickwalls.

read here
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=851

[kdwoodie]

Marriage looked up by Rocky
1923 St Johns Halesowen
346 2 Apr Herbert James HANCOX 28 B Salesman 27 27 Benacre St St Lukes Birmingham Father Thomas Hancox Gardener
Kate Elizabeth BARRETT 31 S 376 Jouer Hasbury Halesowen Father Benjamin Barrett Deceased
Wit; Benjamin Barrett / William Hancox

I still think she called Benjamin her father but he was her grandfather
Only her Birth Cert would confirm things .