ARC TBC 'Clarke 'Clark' history--

[harryfotta]

Hello All.

I am trying to find out information regarding the surname Clark/e.
Potentially, my 3*GG was John Clark/e born in the early 1830's in Manchester, but I'm not convinced he was originally from there.

From census records 1861 onwards - he lived either in Tipton or West Bromwich.
I can't seem to find Manchester baptism records of him, but I can from around The Black Country.
In the 1861 census, John Clarke is a Boatman.
He married Mary Ann Trumpeter on 16th May 1859 in Tipton.

Could it be, his father, William Clarke was a Boatman too? Could John have been born whilst on their travels?

I am really struggling.

Can anybody please point me in the right direction?

Any help would be hugely appreciated.

Kind regards Andy

[kdwoodie]

Marriage from Freereg
County Staffordshire
Place Tipton
Church name St Martin
Parish Register
Register entry number 47
Marriage date16 May 1859
John CLARKE 27 bachelor Labourer Tipton father William CLARKE Labourer
Mary Ann TRUMPETER 19 spinster Tipton father Benjamin TRUMPETER Labourer
Witness 1 William TRUMPETER
Witness 2 Ellen HODGKISS
NotesGroom, Bride & both Witnesses sign X

[harryfotta]

Thanks kdwoodie, but I already know this information.

My battle is trying to find out if John Clark was baptised in Manchester or in the black country.

And also, was his father from Manchester, or was he a boatman on his travels?

I don't know if I'm ever going to find this information or not?

[rockyfowler]

No Trumpeter in BCC be nice to add this one and marriage ? Kind Regards RF
16 May 1859 St Martin Tipton
John CLARKE 27 B Labourer Tipton Father William Clarke Labourer
Mary Ann TRUMPETER 19 S Tipton Father Benjamin Trumpeter Labourer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; William Trumpter X / Ellen Hodgkiss X

TRUMPETER, MARY ANNE LUCAS
GRO Reference: 1841 D Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 334

1841 St Martin Tipton
2426 14 Nov Mary Anne Daughter Of Benjamin & Anne TRUMPTER, Great Bridge, Boatman


1851
Cop Hall Street, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Benjamin Trumpeter Head Married Male 44 1807 Boatman Staffordshire, England
Ann Trumpeter Wife Married Female 44 1807 - Lichfield, Staffordshire, England
William Trumpeter Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Boatman Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Eleanor Trumpeter Daughter - Female 15 1836 Scholar Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Mary Trumpeter Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Ann M Trumpeter Daughter - Female 6 1845 - West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

1861
Horseley Heath, Tipton, Dudley, Staffordshire, England
John Clarke Head Married Male 28 1833 Boatman Manchester, Lancashire, England
Mary Ann Clarke Wife Married Female 20 1841 - West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Sophia Clarke Daughter - Female 2 1859 - West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Ann Clarke Daughter - Female 0 1861 - Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Sarah A Trumpeter Daughter - Female 2 1849 - West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England

[Northern Lass]

Repost in Black Country area RF what you think needs adding and we can sticky it.

or Poster....allow me to move to Black Country area to work ;on.

[harryfotta]

Hi Northern Lass.

Yes please continue to move and send me a link to find it.

Would be grateful to get some answers to my original post

[Northern Lass]

Hi Northern Lass.

Yes please continue to move and send me a link to find it.

Would be grateful to get some answers to my original post

I sent you a link to this while back so hope you got it.

Will add what I can to Bcc to help you.

In the meantime if you would like your username added to Bcc then please let me know on this thread
and I can ask the owner of Bcc if that is ok ..might help if anyone connects to you.

[Northern Lass]

Can anyone find marriage of Benjamin Trumpeter and Ann Lucas please

and any baptisms for John Clarke father William

and any census going forward for John Clarke pls.

Where is he in 1841

[Northern Lass]

can someone with family search pls put in John Clarke or Clark and father William and see what they get
as he could be baptised anywhere..

[Northern Lass]

There is this....possible...but need more census for John Clarke

St Martin Tipton
Baptism date 07 Apr 1833
Person forename John
Person sex M
Father forename William
Mother forename Martha
Father surname CLARKE
Person abode Sheep Wash Lane
Father occupation Labourer

[Northern Lass]

Poster what other children did JOhn Clarke and Mary ann have.

can't see sophia on 1871

looking for 1871 and further census pls anyone

[kdwoodie]

Freereg
St. Mary Kingswinford
26 Dec 1831
Benjamin Trumper Kingswinford
Ann Lucas Kingswinford
Witness 1 William Lay
Wit Ness 2 Frances Smith
Notes Groom, bride and witness 2 sign by mark

[kdwoodie]

Family Search
Name:
John Clark
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
18 Jan 1832
Event Place:
Manchester, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Manchester Collegiate Church, Lancashire, England
Gender:
Male
Father's Name:
William Clark
Mother's Name:
Hannah Clark
Record Number:
85
Bishops Transcript Image says No 333 18 Jan 1832 John son of William and Hanna Clark 82 Fleet Street Carter Henry Fielding Clerk in Orders


1871 24 Anson St. Dalton Lancashire
John Clark Head M 37 Labourer Manchester
Mary A Clark Wife F 28 Lab Iron Works Great Bridge ?
Sophia Clark Daughter F 11 Scholar Great Bridge
Richard Clark Son M 7 Scholar Great Bridge
William Clark Son M 1 Great Bridge
Isaac W Clayton Lodger M 28 Iron works Lab Lincolnshire

1881 44 Cop Hall St
John Clarke Head Married 50 Labourer Manchester Lancashire
Mary Ann Clarke Wife Married 38 West Bromwich Staffordshire
Richard Clarke Son Unm 19 Labourer Tipton
J.H. Clarke Son 4 West Bromwich
J.W. Clenton Lodger Unm 38 Labourer Staley Bridge Lancashire

1891 3 back of 168 a Great Bridge Road West Bromwich
John Clark Head M 53 Bricklayers Labourer Born Manchester Lancashire
Mary A Clark Wife M 48 Born West Bromwich
George W Clark Son S 21 Tube Worker Born West Bromwich
John H Clark Son 14 Tube Worker Born West Bromwich
Harriett Wills Lodger S 24 Brickmaker Born London Middlesex
Isaac W Clayton Lodger S 48 Ironworks Labourer Born Manchester Lancashire

1901 22 Brick House Lane West Bromwich
Richard Clarke Head M 37 ? Tube Works Born West Bromwich
Emily Clarke Wife M 36 Born West Bromwich
John H Clarke Son 15 Tube Works Stamper Born Tipton
Mary E Clarke Daur 11 Born Tipton
Richard Clarke Son 1 Born Tipton
John Clarke Father M 59 General Labourer Born Manchester Lanc

1911 99 Brick House Great Bridge West Bromwich
Richard Clarke Head Married 44 Tube Works Labourer Born West Bromwich
Emily Clarke Wife Married 45 Born West Bromwich
Richard Clarke Son 11 School Born West Bromwich
John Clarke Father Single 77 No Occupation Old Age Pensioner Born Manchester
John Randle Boarder Married 35 Out of Work Born Staffordshire
Married 23 Years 4 Children 2 Living 2 Dead

Possible death

County Staffordshire
Place (Links to more information) West Bromwich
Church name (Links to more information) St Peter
Register entry number 206
Burial date 27 Oct 1915
Burial person forename John
Burial person surname CLARKE
Person age 72
Burial person abode 96 Brickhouse Lane
.
Children
CLARK, SOPHIA TRUMPETER
GRO Reference: 1859 S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 613

CLARKE, SARAH ANN TRUMPETER
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 45

Ancestry
Name: Sarah Ann Clark
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 10 Nov 1862
Christening Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
View this parish
Father: John Clark
Mother: Mary Ann Clark

Free Reg
West Bromwich
Church St Peter
Parish Register
Register entry number 475
Burial date 17 Nov 1862
Burial person forename Sarah Ann
Burial person surname CLARK
Person age 1y10m
Burial person abode Greets Green

CLARKE, RICHARD TRUMPETER
GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 692

CLARKE, ANN TRUMPETER
GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 60

Free Reg
West Bromwich
Church name (Links to more information) St Peter
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 141
Burial date 19 Apr 1866
Burial person forename Ann
Burial person surname CLARKE
Person age 11m
Burial person abode Great Bridge

CLARK, JOHN TRUMPETER
GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 778

Free Reg
West Bromwich
Church name (Links to more information) St Peter
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 374
Burial date 20 Jan 1868
Burial person forename John William
Burial person surname CLARK
Person age 9m
Burial person abode Great Bridge

CLARK, WILLIAM GEORGE TRUMPETER
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 708

CLARK, MARY ANN TRUMPETER
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 724

Free Reg
West Bromwich
Church name (Links to more information) St Peter
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 783
Burial date 16 Dec 1870
Burial person forename Mary Ann
Burial person surname CLARK
Person age 14d
Burial person abode Great Bridge

CLARK, JOHN HENRY TRUMPETER
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 822

[Northern Lass]

excellent kdw...

Looks to me like he is deffo Manchester born.

do we have him on 1841 with father?

[kdwoodie]

I've searched and searched but there are quite a few in Manchester