Arc shortly.....John SOUTHALL & Elizabeth - of Dudley--

[kdwoodie]

Is the death right for James He would have been 100 ?
James SOUTHALL (1796-1896), married Sophia, then subsequently married widow Sarah SPICER (1804-?). Sarah had been previously married to Enoch ROUND (1807-1838).

[Northern Lass]

Noticed that one of the members on Bcc and on this forum
Di (in australia)
has added the children of Richard Southall
might be worth contacting her via a pm see if she connects.
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =115206048

[Northern Lass]

And Enoch Round who married Sarah Spicer does connect here to twiglet member on here and Bcc
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ndi=302457

[Northern Lass]

Is the death right for James He would have been 100 ?
James SOUTHALL (1796-1896), married Sophia, then subsequently married widow Sarah SPICER (1804-?). Sarah had been previously married to Enoch ROUND (1807-1838).

I think it could be this one

Free reg.
St Andrew Dudley

Burial date 17 Nov 1862
Burial person forename James
Burial person surname SOUTHALL
Person age 66

poss death..

[Northern Lass]

This could be the burial of Joseph Southall son of John Southall and Sophia
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =824658657

here
gallery/image_page.php?album_id=148&image_id=3405

However the birth we have on Bcc has no reference it says 22nd Nov 1842
but the burial /gravestone has 10 Dec 1842

need birth certif and death certif and actual burial Info to determine.

Burial is at St Andrews Dudley/Netherton

[kdwoodie]

The nearest death i can see on GRO is this
SOUTHALL, JOSEPH 86
GRO Reference: 1932 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 1188

The nearest birth is this
SOUTHALL, JOSEPH ROUND
GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 254

on BCC you have Levi born
SOUTHALL, LEVI SPICER
GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 378

I'm getting confused
you posted this
This could be the burial of Joseph Southall son of John Southall and Sophia
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =824658657
That link shows John Southall and Sarah Round as parents
The Southall that was married to Sophia was James
or have i got it all wrong

[rockyfowler]

1932 St Andrews Netherton
1263 3 Jan Joseph SOUTHALL 129 Park Road Aged 86 years

[Northern Lass]

James and sophia
They have JOhn
he marries Sarah Round
They have JOseph
he marries Sarah Butcher

so I think that could be the graves of Joseph son of John g.son of James

Levi is here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=493393

[Northern Lass]

1932 St Andrews Netherton
1263 3 Jan Joseph SOUTHALL 129 Park Road Aged 86 years

so could that be Joseph Southall g.son of James who marries sophia....

[kdwoodie]

Sorry but Levi still says abt 1848 on BCC

Information for Joseph son of John and Sarah Round

Birth from GRO
SOUTHALL, JOSEPH ROUND
GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 254

Marriage
Wordsley Holy Trinity
Marriage date 25 Aug 1861
Joseph SOUTHALL 21 bachelor Nailer Brierley Hill Father John SOUTHALL Nailer
Sarah BUTCHER 21 spinster Brierley Hill Father John BUTCHER Collier
Witness 1 Elijah HAMPTON
Witness 2 Mary SMITH
Notes The Bride, Groom & 2nd witness signed with a X

1871 7 The Croft Dudley
Joseph Southall Head Mar 28Horse Nail Maker
Sarah Southall Wife Mar 28 Nailer
James Southall Son 8 Scholar
Hannah Southall Daur 6 Scholar
Eliza Southall Daur 3 Scholar
Joseph Southall Son 4/12 Born Netherton
All others born Dudley

1881 Croft Dudley
Joseph Southall Head Mar 38 Horse Nail Maker
Sarah Southall Mar Wife 38 Nailer
James Southall Son Unm 17 Coal Miner
Hannah Southall Daur Unm 15 Nail Maker
Eliza Southall Daur 12 Scholar
Joseph Southall Son 10 Scholar
Sarah Southall Daur 8 Scholar
Esther Southall Daur 6 Scholar
David Southall Son 2
David Butcher Lodger Unm 24 Tube Maker
All Born Netherton

1891 12 Bell Road Dudley
Joseph Southall Head Mar 48 Nail Maker
Sarah Southall Wife Mar 48
Joseph Southall Son Single 20 Coal Miner
Sarah Southall Daur Single 18 Nail Maker
Ether Southall Daur Single 16 Nail Maker
David Southall Son Single 13
Eizzie Southall Daur 8 Scholar
Albert Southall Son 3
William Danks Son in Law Mar 21Coal Miner
Eliza Southall Wife Mar 22 (Image says Danks )
All Born Netherton

1901 68 Simms lane Dudley
Joseph Southall Head M 58 Labourer at Ironworks
Sarah Southall Wife M 59
Elizabeth Southall Daur S 17 Tailoress
William Southall Son S 16 Labourer at Ironworks
Bertie Southall Son S 13 Labourer at Ironworks
All born Dudley

1911 2 Court 2 St Thomas St Netherton Dudley
Joseph Southall Head Married 68 Roadman
Sarah Southall Wife Married 68
Married 50 Years 13 children 9 living 4 dead
Both born Netherton

Is This Sarahs parents on BCC https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=493416

BUTCHER, SARAH RAYBOULD
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 251

[Northern Lass]

added that and notes thanks.

will move this to archived in a few days unless poster wants more info