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ARC TBC...John Oakley Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby Jayneh » Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:53 pm

Hi, I’m trying to work out the ancestors of John Oakley and his wife Clara, who are from the Bilston area, both born about 1862 to 1865.
I've been working on this for a 60th birthday present due 11th December, sorry I've not been contributing on other threads, but hope to later.

Marriage Index, 1886, Qtr2, Atcham, Shropshire, Vol 6A Page 1219
John Oakley married either Clara Jane Blakemore or Lizzie Roberts
I can’t find parish records for this to check the fathers names, can anyone please?

Here is the census and GRO information I've found for their children
1891 Census
13 New Street Bilston, Staffordshire
John Oakley, Head, Male, 28, bn Bilston Staffordshire
Clara Oakley, Wife, Female, 26, bn Bilston Staffordshire
John H Oakley, Son, Male, 4, Preston Shropshire
Edward R Oakley, Son, Male, 1, Priestfield Staffordshire

1901 Census
46 Mill Lane, Oldbury, North Worcestershire
John Oakley, Head, 38, Male, bn Darlaston, Staffordshire, England
Clara Oakley, Wife, 38, Female, bn Priestfield, Staffordshire, England
John Hy Oakley, Son, 14, Male, bn Priestfield, Staffordshire, England
Edward R Oakley, Son, 11, Male, bn Priestfield, Staffordshire, England
Clara E Oakley, Daughter, 8, Female, bn Priestfield, Staffordshire, England
Cyril Oakley, Son, 6, Male, bn Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
Emily Oakley, Daughter, 3, Female, bn Oldbury, Worcestershire, England

1911 Census:
65 Parsonage street, Oldbury, Staffordshire
Married 24 years , 11 children, 2 died
John Oakley, Head, 46, Male, Married, Labourer Brick Chiper, bn Bilston, Staffordshire
Clara Oakley, Wife, 45, Female, Married, 24, bn Pristfield, Staffordshire
John Henry Oakley, Son, 24, Male, Single, Labourer, bn Preston Gobbalds, Shropshire
Clara E Oakley, Daughter, 18, Female, Single, bn New Village, Ettingshall
Cyril Oakley, Son, 15, Male, Single, Labourer Driller, bn Corsway Green, Worcestershire
Emily Oakley, Daughter, 13, Female, school, bn Langley Green, Worcestershire
Gertrude Oakley, Daughter, 11, Female, school, bn Langley Green, Worcestershire
George Steven Oakley, Son, 9, Male, school, Langley Green, Worcestershire
Marion Oakley, Daughter, 6, Female, school, Langley Green, Worcestershire
Amelia Oakley, Daughter, 5, Female, school, Tat Bank Rd, Oldbury, Worcestershire

Here is the GRO info for their children (Parents and none of their children are on BCC):
OAKLEY, JOHN HENRY, mother BLAKEMORE , GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in ATCHAM Volume 06A Page 672.
OAKLEY, WILLIAM, mother BLAKEMORE , GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in ATCHAM Volume 06A Page 658.
OAKLEY, EDWARD RICHARD, mother BLAKEMORE , GRO Reference: 1889 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 634.
OAKLEY, FREDERICK THOMAS, mother BLAKEMORE , GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 633
OAKLEY, CLARA ELIZABETH, mother BLAKENHALL, GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 638.
OAKLEY, CYRIL, mother BLAKEMORE , GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 833.
OAKLEY, EMILY, mother BLAKEMORE, GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 821.
OAKLEY, GERTRUDE, mother BLAKEMORE , GRO Reference: 1899 S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 84.
OAKLEY, GEORGE STEPHEN, mother BLAKEMORE , GRO Reference: 1901 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 852.
OAKLEY, MARIAN, mother BLAKEMORE GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter WEST BROMWICH Vol 06B Page 903.
OAKLEY, AMELIA, mother BLAKEMORE GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 870.

William and Fredrick are the ones who died where dead by 1911 census, and these are likely to be the registrations of their death:
OAKLEY, WILLIAM, died age 1, GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 368
OAKLEY, FREDERICK THOMAS, died aged 0 , GRO Reference: 1891 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 417.
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby rockyfowler » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:42 am

Marriage Index, 1886, Qtr2, Atcham, Shropshire, Vol 6A Page 1219
John Oakley married either Clara Jane Blakemore or Lizzie Roberts
I can’t find parish records for this to check the fathers names, can anyone please?

Hi. checked as you prob have the parish records and no sign of marriage its going to cost money to see it from GRO
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby Jayneh » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:52 am

Thanks for looking, I wondered whether I might have missed something. I’ve been spoilt recently looking at Yorkshire records for another branch of the tree, where it’s easy to find images of marriage certificates online.
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby grangers14 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:05 pm

Not sure if you have seen this?

Christening Freereg.
24th August 1865. St Leonard, Bilston.
Clara, Parents, Joseph and Emma Blakemore, Josephs occupation Deceased?

Christening Freereg.
25th October 1865. Holy Trinity, Ettingshall.
Clara Jane, born 25th August 1865. Parents, Josiah and Emily Blakemore, Old Friezland, Boiler maker
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby grangers14 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:34 pm

As RF said you really need to buy the marriage certificate...I can't see a birth registration on freebmd or GRO for Clara Jane? Nor census with parents Josiah and Emily? :?
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby Jayneh » Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:34 pm

Thanks, I'll buy the marriage certificate for John Oakley and Clara.
I don't think I was aware of the first christening. May be cousins both called Clara Blakemore, rather than a recording transcript error on both parents names Emily/Emma and Joseph/Josiah.
On GRO, a few Clara Blakemores born around 1865 in the Wolverhampton area, Clara Jane could be
BLAKEMORE, CLARA , mother BURGWIN
GRO Reference: 1865 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 542

I haven't found Clara with parents Josiah and Emily on a census either.
As for parents marriage, on FMP I found a Emily Burgwin marrying a Thomas Harris
1 Sep 1856 • Sedgley, Stafford, England
Thomas Harris, 25, B, Labourer, Ettingshall, father Evan Harris Weaver, and Emily Burgwin, 21, S, Ettingshall, father John Burgwin, Labourer, Witness Evan Harris and Sarah Burgwin.

then a Josiah Blakemore marrying an Emma Harris not an Emily
14 Apr 1863 • Sedgley, Stafford, England
FReeReg Josiah Blakemore, 52 widower, boiler maker, Spring vale, father Josiah Blakemore Blacksmith, and Emma Harris widow, father John Burgwin labourer. Wit JE Lewis and Sarah Burgwin

Witness Sarah Burgwin at both marriages.

Then same year as marriage birth of a possible brother to Clara
BLAKEMORE, JOHN JOSEPH , mother BURGWIN GRO Reference: 1863 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 495
Christening Index for John Josiah Blakemore
Birth date 7 June 1863
Christening 15 Jun 1863 • Ettingshall, Staffordshire, England
Father Josiah Blakemore
Mother Emily Blakemore
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby Jayneh » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:37 pm

Hi, I’ve received the marriage certificate for John OAKLEY and Clara Jane BLAKEMORE
Marriage Index: 1886, Qtr2, Atcham, Shropshire, Vol 6A Page 1219
Certificate details: Register Office District of Atcham, County of Salop 25th April 1886
John Oakley, 22, B, Labourer, resident at Allbrighton, father Henry Oakley, Blacksmith and
Clara Jane Blakemore, 22, S, resident at Preston Gubbals, father Josiah Blakemore deceased, Boiler maker.
Witnesses J Everett (registrar), James Battersby and Mary Gregory.

The certificate shows Clara Jane Blakemore was resident at Preston Gubbals; this is the same place as her first child (John Henry Oakley) was born, but spelled Preston Gobbalds on the 1911 census
1911 Census:
65 Parsonage street, Oldbury, Staffordshire
Married 24 years , 11 children, 2 died
John Oakley, Head, 46, Male, Married, Labourer Brick Chiper, bn Bilston, Staffordshire
Clara Oakley, Wife, 45, Female, Married, 24, bn Pristfield, Staffordshire
John Henry Oakley, Son, 24, Male, Single, Labourer, bn Preston Gobbalds, Shropshire
Clara E Oakley, Daughter, 18, Female, Single, bn New Village, Ettingshall
Cyril Oakley, Son, 15, Male, Single, Labourer Driller, bn Corsway Green, Worcestershire
Emily Oakley, Daughter, 13, Female, school, bn Langley Green, Worcestershire
Gertrude Oakley, Daughter, 11, Female, school, bn Langley Green, Worcestershire
George Steven Oakley, Son, 9, Male, school, Langley Green, Worcestershire
Marion Oakley, Daughter, 6, Female, school, Langley Green, Worcestershire
Amelia Oakley, Daughter, 5, Female, school, Tat Bank Rd, Oldbury, Worcestershire

As seen in my first message, the 1981 census also has John Henry born in Preston, Shropshire but the 1901 census states Priestfield Stafordshire. Nevertheless this seems to be the same family that I’m interested in.
(GRO birth references for the children are also on my first message.)

I have a birth certificate for a Clara Blakemore relating to this GRO Reference
BLAKEMORE, CLARA , mother BURGWIN
1865 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 542
Certificate details:
25 Aug 1865 Friezland Bilston, Clara, father Josiah Blakemore (deceased), Boiler maker (journeyman), mother Emma Blakemore, formerly Burgwin. Informant Emma Blakemore mother Frizland Bilston [note than the word ‘mother’ was underlined]

Note that the father Josiah Blakemore (deceased) Boiler maker ties up with the marriage certificate above.
However the mother is given as Emma rather than Emily as seen on this Christening:
Christening Freereg.
25th October 1865. Holy Trinity, Ettingshall.
Clara Jane, born 25th August 1865. Parents, Josiah and Emily Blakemore, Old Friezland, Boiler maker.

I wonder whether Emma and Emily are the same person? Or has Emma died and a relation called Emily Blakemore is taking on the role of mother? If you can throw any light on it please, I’d be grateful.

I can’t find Clara Jane on a census with an Emily or Emma Blakemore mother, however there is a Clara Blakemore as a visitor on:
1871 census , Ward Street?, Bilston, Staffordshire
Joseph Blakemore, Head, 26, Bilston Staffordshire
Sarah Blakemore, Wife, 23, Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Sarah Blakemore, Daughter, 4/12m , Bilston Staffordshire
Clara Blakemore, Visitor, 5 Bilston Staffordshire

I can see a possibility that Joseph may be an older half brother to Clara.
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby grangers14 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:26 pm

Emma and Emily often do get muddled up!

Freereg
14th April 1863. All Saints, Sedgley.
Josiah Blakemore, 52, W, Boiler maker, Spring Vale, Josiah Blakemore, Blacksmith
Emma Harris, 32, W, Spring Vale, John Burgwin, Labourer
Witnesses, J E Lewis, Sarah Burgwin
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby kdwoodie » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:45 pm

Free Reg
County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church name Bilston Cemetery, Cemetery Lan
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 2444
Burial date16 Aug 1865
Burial person forename Josiah
Burial person surname BLAKEMORE
Person age 55
Burial person abode New Freizland
Notes Parish of St Leonard, Bilston, public grave no. 1744
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby grangers14 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:24 pm

Freereg

5th April 1846. High Street Primitive Methodist, Bilston
Henry, Parents, Josiah and Ann Neil Blackmore, Blacksmith. Sibling of Josiah

5th April 1846. High Street Primitive Methodist, Bilston
Josiah, Parents, Josiah and Ann Neil Blackmore, Blacksmith. Sibling of Henry

22 March 1849. High Street Primitive Methodist, Bilston
George, Parents, Josiah and Ann Blakemore, Blacksmith


1851. Friezland, Wolverhampton.
Josiah Blakemore, head, M, 37, Boiler Maker, Bilston

1851. Wroxhall, Warwick
John Shakespear, head, 40, Ag Lab, Haseley, Warwickshire
Mary, wife, 60, Lapworth, Warwickshire
William, son, 13, Haseley, Warwickshire
Ann Neil, Visitor, 30, Lapworth, Warwickshire
Henry Blakemore, Visitor, 7, Bilston
Joseph, Visitor, 5, Bilston
George, Visitor, 2, Bilston


(Is this Ann's Mum?)

1861. Friezland, Bilston.
Josiah Blakemore, head, W, 49, Boiler Maker
Henry, son, 17, Boiler Maker
Josiah, son, 15, Boiler Maker
George, son, 13, Boiler Maker
All born Bilston

I can't see a marriage for them?
There is this death but as Blakemore

3rd March 1861. Bilston Cemetery
Ann Blakemore, 46, Freezeland
Parish of St Leonard's, Bilston, public grave no. 817
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby grangers14 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:48 pm

Transcribed and looks like Blakeman
1841. Wolverhampton Street, Bilston.
Josiah Blakeman, 60, Blacksmith
Phoebe, 65,
Nancy, 30
Edwin, 15,
/Josiah, 30
Mary, 20, Not born in County
Phoebe, 2
All others born in County

Marriage. Freereg
17th September 1837. St Peter, Wolverhampton.
Josiah Blakeman, 26, Blacksmith, Josiah Blakeman, Blacksmith
Ann Neel, 19, Servant, George Neel, Labourer
Witnesses, Mary Ann Ball, John Buddulph

Christening Freereg
1st September 1811. St Leonard, Bilston
Josiah, Parents, Josiah and Phebe Blakemore
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Postby kdwoodie » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:10 pm

Free Reg
County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church name Bilston Cemeter
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 1338
Burial date 03 Mar 1861
Burial person forename Ann
Burial person surname BLAKEMORE
Person age 46
Burial person abode Freezeland
Notes Parish of St Leonard's, Bilston, public grave no. 817
Transcribed by Judith Lloyd
File line number 1340
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby Jayneh » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:09 pm

Great, thank you for all your replies.
I was wondering whether the name Emily and Emma often get used for the same person, so thanks for saying they often get mixed up.

I also wonder whether Joseph and Josiah often get mixed up too.
Josiah b abt 1846 seems to be recorded as Joseph on the 1851 census, but Josiah on most other things
1851. Wroxhall, Warwick
John Shakespear, head, 40, Ag Lab, Haseley, Warwickshire
Mary, wife, 60, Lapworth, Warwickshire
William, son, 13, Haseley, Warwickshire
Ann Neil, Visitor, 30, Lapworth, Warwickshire
Henry Blakemore, Visitor, 7, Bilston
Joseph, Visitor, 5, Bilston
George, Visitor, 2, Bilston

Also I wonder whether this is the same person recorded as Joseph here with Clara who may be Clara Jane (making her a half sister).
1871 census , Ward Street?, Bilston, Staffordshire
Joseph Blakemore, Head, 26, Bilston Staffordshire
Sarah Blakemore, Wife, 23, Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Sarah Blakemore, Daughter, 4/12m , Bilston Staffordshire
Clara Blakemore, Visitor, 5 Bilston Staffordshire

If his mother was Ann Neil, then I wonder whether this is him without a first name under BLAKEMAN on the GRO register
BLAKEMAN, - , mother NEEL
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON & SEISDON Volume 17 Page 344
and his siblings
BLAKEMAN, HENRY , mother NAIL
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON AND SEISDON Volume 17 Page 330
BLAKEMAN, GEORGE , mother NEAL
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON & SEISDON Volume 17 Page 349
BLAKEMAN, PHEBE , mother NEAL
GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON & SEISDON Volume 17 Page 299
BLAKEMAN, PHEBE ANN NEALE
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 17 Page 337
I can't find BLAKEMORE birth reg with mother NEAL or similar sounding names on GRO

It seems the name Blakeman was used rather than Blakemore between 1841 and 1851, or is it a different family?
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby kdwoodie » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:01 am

Free Reg
County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church name St John
Register type Transcript
Marriage date 26 Mar 1866
Groom forename John
Groom surname ADAMS
Groom age 36
Groom occupationTimber merchant
Groom abode Dudley Road
Bride forename Emma
Bride surname BLAKEMORE
Bride age 28
Bride condition widow
Bride abode Dudley Road
Groom father forename John
Groom father surname ADAMS
Groom father occupation Wheelwright, deceased
Transcribed by Michael Clarke
File line number 1866

I cannot find these on census
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby kdwoodie » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:31 am

1851 Dudley Street Bilston
Thomas Tomes 39
Jane Tomes 37
George Tomes 14
Harriett Tomes 8
Sarah Ann Tomes 6
Martha Tomes 4
Thomas Tomes 2
Joseph Tomes 2 Mo
Mary Tomes 2 Mo
Caroline Challinor 19
Ann Burgwin 23 Servant Born Bilston
Emily Burgwin 15 Servant Born Bilston

Free Reg
County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church name St Leonard
Register type Transcript
Baptism date 07 Dec 1828
Person forename Anne
Father forename John
Mother forename Sarah
Father surname BURGWIN
Father occupation Miner
Transcribed by Michael Clarke
File line number 2721

County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church name St Leonard
Register type Transcript
Baptism date 28 Jul 1833
Person forename Sarah
Father forename John
Mother forename Sarah
Father surname BURGWIN
Father occupation Labourer
Transcribed by Michael Clarke
File line number 2341

County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church name St Leonard
Register type Transcript
Baptism date 04 Aug 1835
Person forename Emily
Father forename John
Mother forename Mary
Father surname BURGWIN
Father occupation Miner
Transcribed byMichael Clarke
File line number 429
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