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PLEASE ARCHIVE - Joseph Smart born abt 1900

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Here on BCC - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =638180494

Can we find further information on him?
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Re: Joseph Smart born abt 1900

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I think the headstone says Joseph H Smart

1939. 29 Beeches Road, Rowley Regis
Joseph H Smart, 29th Dec 1899, Crane follower (Tube Works)
Mary E Smart, 15 Feb 1903, Unpaid domestic
Closed record
John H Smart, 1 Nov, 1938
Lydia Nock (Woodward) 30th Nov 1867, W
Jane Nock (Woodward) 1st Jan 1894 S

Note it does not show Woodward that you can see on actual image
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I think Mary E is maiden name Nock.
Likely to be here on BCC
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=470587

Ages for the first 4 children have been added in error.
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SMART, JOSEPH NEW
GRO Reference: 1899 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 88.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1894.
SMART William. NEW Eliza. Lower Gornal, St James. Dudley Register Office. 215/007/8.

1901. 13 Summit Place, Lower Gornal.
William Smart 31. Green grocer.
Elizabeth Smart 30.
Mary Smart 7.
Sarah Smart 6.
Dorris Smart 4.
Joseph Smart 2.
Phoebe Smart 1/12.
All born Segdley.

1911. 19 Summit Place, Lower Gornal.
William Smart 40. Tailor.
Eliza Smart 40.
Mary Smart 17.
Doris Smart 14.
Joseph Smart 12.
Pheobe Smart 10.
William Smart 9.
Ethel Smart 3.
Mark Male 26. boarder.

All born Gornal Wood.
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Familysearch,
William Smart. 26. single. father Joseph Smart.
Eliza New. 24. Single. father not showing.
marriage date 25 December 1894.

Parish Of Sedgley, Lower Gornall, Stafford.

Could be this one on BCC,

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I thought the GRO was,

SMART, JOSEPH HENRY FORD
GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 53

This Joseph was not born till 29th December 1889

Joseph with mothers maiden name New, was born 1st quarter 1889.
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You are right Jo.
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I haven't been able to see a will but to back up seeing H as middle name on headstone...
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Deaths Mar 1954
Smart Joseph H 54 Wolverhampton 9b 1091
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West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1931.
SMART Joseph H. SOUTHALL Maud L. Sedgley, United Reformed & Methodist Church, Bilston Street. Dudley Register Office. 027/002/20.
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grangers14 wrote:I think the headstone says Joseph H Smart

1939. 29 Beeches Road, Rowley Regis
Joseph H Smart, 29th Dec 1899, Crane follower (Tube Works)
Mary E Smart, 15 Feb 1903, Unpaid domestic
Closed record
John H Smart, 1 Nov, 1938
Lydia Nock (Woodward) 30th Nov 1867, W
Jane Nock (Woodward) 1st Jan 1894 S

Note it does not show Woodward that you can see on actual image
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Births Dec 1938.
Smart John H . Nock. Rowley R. 6b. 1167.
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Yep that one I think too Jimmy. Also think she is on BCC, some childrens ages are wrong on there. I will change them just now.

Only Smart/Ford I think marriage ??

24th June 1888. All Saints, Hockley, Birmingham
Absolom Smart, 22 B, Labourer, 101 James Turners Street, Absolom Smart, Labourer
Mary Elizabeth Ford, 30, S, 13 Norton Street, William Ford Office Clerk
After Banns
Both signed
Witnesses, Harvey Twirley, X of Eliza Williams
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He must of died in Wolverhampton area.

Staffordshire Blackheath.
Church name Beeches Road Cave Adullam Baptist.
Burial date 14 Jan 1954.
Joseph Henry SMART.
Person age 54.
Burial person abode Darby Street, Blackheath.
Transcribed by Stephen Southall.
File line number 350.
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We need this,

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1934.
SMART Joseph. NOCK Mary E. Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity. Sandwell Register Office. 19/7/181.
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Yep we do really Jimmy to confirm.
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Re: Joseph Smart born abt 1900

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Jimmy wrote:We need this,

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1934.
SMART Joseph. NOCK Mary E. Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity. Sandwell Register Office. 19/7/181.


Thanks both :wink:

I'll request a look up for this marriage but not sure of the correct place to post? :?

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