ARC TBC Missing Marriage 1840s

[morrwilcox]

Could anyone help me find a marriage between a William Rogers and an Isabella/Isabel Naggs?
Been trying to find it for what feels like hours with no luck!!

Their first child in born in Stokesley in 1842, and their younger two are born in Woolwich in 1844/45.

Isabella listed as a widow in 1851 census at age 29, so if anyone could help find William's death, that would also be much appreciated!
I think she marries either a Samuel Hunt or a William Leighton in Greenwich 1854. Any help with that would also be useful!

Not sure if it's me or the search engines today, but I can't seem to find anything!!

Thanks!

[grangers14]

I can't see either?
The marriage in 1854 there is one to William Leighton but Isabella is a spinster

Have you found them later census. Have you seen Hannahs christening?
19th August 1842
Hannah daur of, William and Isabella Rogers, Stokesley, ships carpenter

[Jimmy]

Are these the ones,
1851. Charlton, Kent.
Isaballs Rodgers 29. Widow. Char woman, Stowell, Yorkshire.
Hannah Rodgers 9. Susbourangh, Yorkshire.
Richard Rodgers 5. Woolwich, Kent.

[grangers14]

Thats the ones I thought Jimmy. Place of birth is Guisborough for Hannah.

[morrwilcox]

Yes, those are the ones Jimmy.

No, I've never seen the actual record of Hannah's baptism. I'm working with FamilySearch as I don't have a subscription to a paying site at the moment, so I can only see transcriptions. Father's occupation of ship's carpenter on her baptism does fit with the father's occupation of shipwright given on Richard's later marriage.

I've got Richard in later censuses as he's my direct relation, but not Isabella or Hannah.

Also, good to know that I can rule the Isabella Rogers/William Leighton marriage out!

[Jimmy]

Can you post the census's you have, and anything that might help.

[Jimmy]

ROGERS, HANNAH KNAGGS.
GRO Reference: 1842 S Quarter in STOKESLEY UNION Volume 24 Page 471.

ROGERS, WILLIAM JOHN NAGGS.
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in GREENWICH UNION Volume 05 Page 254.

ROGERS, RICHARD NAGGS.
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in GREENWICH UNION Volume 05 Page 256.

[Jimmy]

Ancestry,

Isabella Knaggs.
Baptism Date: 6 Jul 1820.
Baptism Place: Guisborough,York.
Father: Richard Knaggs.
Mother: Elizabeth.
FHL Film Number: 0919061, 0919062.

[morrwilcox]

I think I've posted all the info I have.

John William dies 1844. Death reg:

Death reg:
4th quarter 1844
Greenwich
Vol 5
Pg 207
Line 158

Thanks for Isabella's baptism. At least now I have the name of her father, which might help in checking any marriage records.

If I find anything else, I'll let you know.

[Jimmy]

From the GRO,
ROGERS, WILLIAM JOHN AGE 0.
GRO Reference: 1844 D Quarter in GREENWICH UNION Volume 05 Page 207.

[grangers14]

Christening,
30th September 1844. St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich
William John, born 1st April, son of William and Isabella Roger, New Charlton, Shipwright


It says PB at the side of it.
Jo

[grangers14]

Burial.
13th October 1844. St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich
William John Rogers, West Woolwich, 6 months

[grangers14]

What happened to Richard? Where did end up? Who did he marry?
May help us in searching.
Jo

[morrwilcox]

I think Richard married Harriett Alice Marsh, daughter of Nathaniel Marsh (provided I traced him backwards correctly!!) Richard, son of Isabella Rogers, is the only Richard Rogers I've found that gave his birthplace as Woolwich, which is what Richard William, who married Harriett Marsh, does consistently throughout the censuses, so hopefully I'm not barking up the wrong tree!!

If my Richard W Rogers and Richard, son of Isabella Rogers nee Naggs, are one and the same, here's the info I have on him:

Marriage:
William Richard Rogers, age 31, bachelor & labourer of Wingham, son of William Rogers, shipwright
Harriett Alice Marsh, age 18, spinster of Wingham, dau of Nathaniel Marsh, labourer
Witnesses: Daniel Fordham (?) & Ann Spearpaint (?)

Marriage reg:
4th quarter 1874
Eastry
Vol 2A
Pg 1524
Line 6

There's also an announcement of their marriage in the Whitstable Times & Hernes Bay Herald:

Wingham, Dec 1st at St Mary's Church, Richard W Rogers, late of the 2nd Bat. 60th Rifles, to Harriett Alice, only daughter of Nathaniel Marsh, of Wingham.

1881 census:
10 Crown Place, Crown Street, Sutton, Surrey;
Richard W Rogers, age 32, general lab, born Woolwich
Harriet A Rogers, age 23, born Wingham
William N Rogers, age 3, born Banstead
Alice I Rogers, age 1, born Wingham

1891 census:
1 Beulah Road, Sutton, Surrey:
William Rogers, age 45, general lab, born Woolwich
Harriett A Rogers, age 33, born Wingham
William N Rogers, age 13, scholar, born Banstead
Alice I Rogers, age 11, scholar, born Wingham
Charles E Rogers, age 9, scholar, born Sutton
Percy J Rogers, age 8, scholar, born Sutton
Lilian Rogers, age 6, scholar, born Sutton
Louisa A Rogers, age 4, scholar, born Sutton
Florence E Rogers, age 2, born Sutton
Walter R Roberts, age 7mo, born Sutton

1901 census:
20 Beulah Road, Sutton, Surrey:
William Richard Rogers, age 58, painter, born Woolwich
Harriett Alice Rogers, age 43, born Wingham
Charles Edwin Rogers, age 19, bricklayer's lab, born Sutton
Lillian Rogers, age 16, firework factory girl, born Sutton
Louisa Annie Rogers, age 14, born Sutton
Florence Evelyn Rogers, age 12, scholar, born Sutton
Walter Robert Rogers, age 10, scholar, born Sutton
Edith Emma Rogers, age 8, scholar, born Sutton

1911 census:
Epsom Workhouse, Dorking Road, Epsom, Surrey:
Richard William Rogers, age 70, formerly watchman pensioner, born Woolwich

Death reg:
4th quarter 1921
Epsom
Vol 2A
Pg 49
Line 121

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