ARC --Query: Sarah J Hill

[mallosa]

I can't figure this out....

This Sarah J Hill has a father Joseph - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =653853283

and this one John Hill - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =169316964

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =667241313

[grangers14]

It looks like it in a bit of a pickle on BCC? Looks like Sarah has been added twice? Not sure where fathers have been muddled?
Jo

[Jimmy]

Rowley Regis St Giles.
Baptism date 16 Nov 1851.
Sarah Jane HILL.
Father Joseph HILL
mother Elizabeth HILL.
Tipity Green
Father occupation Nailer.
Transcribed by Sandra Cooper.
Credit Sandra Cooper.
File line number 12417.

HILL, SARAH JANE JONES.
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 293.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1840.
HILL Joseph. JONES. Elizabeth Oldswinford, St Mary. Dudley Register Office. 003/001/444.

[Jimmy]

Death,
Upper Gornal St Peter.
Burial date 05 May 1872.
Sarah Jane BLAKEWAY.
Person age 25.
Burial person abode Inhedge Upper Gornal.
Transcribed by Jonathan Maxfield.
File line number 1308.

[Jimmy]

Death,
Upper Gornal St Peter.
Burial date 05 May 1872.
Sarah Jane BLAKEWAY.
Person age 25.
Burial person abode Inhedge Upper Gornal.
Transcribed by Jonathan Maxfield.
File line number 1308.

This must be a different one,

Deaths Jun 1901.
Blakeway Sarah Jane. age 49. Dudley. 6c. 13.

[mumbles]

More info not on bcc
1891 Census Powke Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Blakeway Head 47 Bricklayer
Sarah Jane Blakeway 39
James Blakeway son 17 Labourer
Frank Lowe Blakeway son 16 Stone Breaker
John Blakeway son 15 Stone Breaker
William Blakeway son 14 Stone Breaker
Phoebe Blakeway dau 9 Scholar
Joseph Blakeway son 8 Scholar
Jonathan Lowe Blakeway son 7 Scholar
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

Frank Lowe married Elizabeth Guest 31/7/1898 St. Thomas
I believe father John Guest mother Roseanna Nock is on bcc
Frank Lowe 23 father Jonathan Lowe
Elizabeth Guest 21 father John Guest

1901 Census 22 Shepherds Fold Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Frank Lowe Head 26 General Labourer born Blackheath Staffs.
Elizabeth Lowe wife 24 born Netherton Worcs.

1911 Census 39 Ross Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Frank Lowe Head 36 General Labourer born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Elizabeth Lowe wife 34 born Darby End Worcs.

LOWE Jonathan TROMANS Annie Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/10/315 1907

1939 Reg. not to be put direct on bcc
133 Ross Rowley Regis Staffs.
Jonathan Lowe born 25/11/1884 Bolt Machinist (m)
Annie Lowe born 7/5/1883 (m)
Frank Lowe born 27/2/1875 Builders Merchant Clerk (s)

at 136 Ross Elizabeth Lowe (wid) born 11/11/1877


Not sure whether same Elizabeth who married Frank Lowe but age ties up

[grangers14]

This looks like the birth of Sarah father John
HILL, SARAH HACKETT
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 15

1851. Back of Garrats Lane, Rowley Regis.
John Hill, head, 29, Nail maker,
Ruth, wife, 27, Nail maker,
Elizabeth, daur, 2,
John, son, 1m,
All born Rowley Regis

1861
??

1871. King Street, Rowley Regis.
John Hill, head, 57, Bricklayer,
Ruth, wife, 49, Nail Maker,
John, son, 20, Banksman at coal pit,
Sarah, daur, 17, Nail maker
Rosehannah, daur, 15, Nail maker
Joseph, son, 7,
All born Rowley Regis

[grangers14]

I am having a look Mally. Adding some things...
See if we can sort it?
Jo

[mallosa]

Thanks Jo, I would have a go but wouldn't know where to start

[grangers14]

I am going in circles with this...
It doesn't add up?
On marriage to Jonathan Lowe, 1873, it says father John, deceased.
To William Blakeway, 1886, father Joseph, Miner and deceased.

[Jimmy]

John Hill is still alive for both of those marriages, Joseph died between 1861 and 1871.

Hill on image.
1871. Siviters Lane, Rowley Regis.
Elizebeth Hier 54. widow.
Sarah Jane Hier 19.
Amelia Hier 15.

[grangers14]

So you think father named wrong as John?

This family were all together on 1871 census
1871. Siviters Lane, Rowley Regis
James Whitehall, head, 40, Miner
Catherine Whitehall, wife, 32 , nailer
Jocie Hill, daur in law, 15, nailer
Patience While, daur in law, 12, nailer
Eliza Whitehall, Daur. 1 month
\Joseph Westwood, Head (Lodger crossed out) 24, Miner
Honor Westwood, wife, 25, Nailer,
William Westwood, son, 6,
Joseph Westwood, son, 5
\Elizabeth Hill, Head (lodger crossed out) W, 54, Nailer,
Sarah Jane Hill, daur, 19, Nailer,
Amelia Hill, daur, 15, Nailer
All born Rowley Regis

[grangers14]

I have deleted Marriage for Sarah Jane who had marriage with father John. Added the father we think father should be Joseph.
I have changed marriage order for all of them and also changed birth order for some family members...
I think it is ok now??

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =167191003

I havent added the info you said mumbles, see if we can have a look up then I will add but that looks good and another connection!

Jo

[Northern Lass]

Mumbles I am working on the Lowe stuff so will add

Flagging to archive now.