Jane Severns b 1857

[Northern Lass]

This is my brickwall and I have posted prev.
But would like some fresh eyes or views on this to try and crack it.

What happened to her?
I can't find a death for her.
She is apparently on the 1891 with husband Wm in 1891then disappears
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =737198046

William is having kids with his new lady in 1898
so where is Jane from 1887- 1898

It is not the Jane Rose who dies in 1902! I have this death certif
Deaths Jun 1902 Rose Jane 44 Birmingham 6d 76

Jane has dau Lily in 1887
I don't have this certif but assume the address presuming it is this
1891 - 41 St. Giles St., Netherton, Dudley
William Rose Head 39 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Cradley Heath
Jane Rose Wife 33 b. Warwickshire, Soho
Arthur Rose 16 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Walsall
Ernest Rose 13 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Walsall
William Rose 11 b. Durham, Sunderland
Samuel Rose 9 b. Durham, Sunderland
George H Rose 7 b. Durham, Sunderland
Rosannah Rose 5 b. Staffs., Cradley
Lilly E Rose 2 b. Staffs., Cradley

the only odd thing on the 1891 is that Janes birth place is soho...which is incorrect should say walsall
I wondered if this was Jane or someone else or just an error.

then in 1901 he is with his new lady here..

1901 - 28 Birmingham St., Dudley
William Rose Head 49 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Cradley Heath
Ellen Rose Wife 26 b. Worcs., Netherton (This is Ellen DOWNES)
Lilly Rose Daur 13 b. Staffs., Cradley Heath
Frederick Rose Son 11 b. Worcs., Dudley

has anyone any ideas?
can anyone find her on the 1901
or a death
or burial
if she had lily in 1887 then looking from 1887 onwards
is it possible to do a search on the 1939 if you know a dob
Janes dob is
5 July 1857 Walsall.

really stuck on this and have been for years.

Possible burial could be maybe at St Thomas? St Giles

[Jimmy]

ROSE, LILY ELIZABETH SEVERNS.
GRO Reference: 1887 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 25.

[Jimmy]

Who was Fredericks mother, I can't see him on the GRO.

[Northern Lass]

ROSE, FREDERICK NELSON DOWNS Order
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 127

Ellen Downs is the mother of Frederick.

[Jimmy]

So the 1901 census should show 11 months .

[Northern Lass]

Yes it should.

I was also trying to find on the 1881 13 Bennett street sunderland
which is where one of her kids was born.
How do I find a street on the 1881 census on ancestry?
Put it in the keyword search bit but to no avail.

Just wondering if maybe Jane moved to that area.
I have no idea what happened to her she just vanishes.

[Jimmy]

Registration District, Sunderland.

1881. 13 Bennett Street, Bishopwearmouth, Durham.
Aron Seadham 46.
George Seadham 12.
M. Seadham 2.
Margaret Seadham 45.
Margaret Seadham 6.
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Robert Archer 21.
Margaret E. Archer 19.
Mary A. Archer 1.
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John Richardson 32.
Mary Richardson 33.

[grangers14]

2 Janes in 1939 with that birth date...
Jane Dace 1857 Hornsey M.B. Middlesex

Jane Tinsley 1857 St Helens C.B. Lancashire

[Northern Lass]

Thanks both

so the 2 janes in 1939 have the exact same dob as my Jane?

I just can't get a grip on this at all.

The only thing I noticed is that in 1881 that Aaron Aron Seedham is born Worcs.
In 1879 Jane puts 13 Bennett st as the address her child is born in.

I will move this to Brickwalls in a few days.
I can't find her death
or a likely remarriage

and that 1891 bugs me with why would she have down soho warks as her place of birth.
She has her last child in 1887....where is she after that...is that her on 1891 ..or is that another of Wm Rose's ladies and
calls herself Jane Rose on census but place of birth is hers ie soho.

but I cant find a death from 1887 onwards that fits.