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PLEASE ARCHIVE - Parkes/Bowater query

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Following on from here - viewtopic.php?f=131&p=206216#p206216

This is what we have on BCC ...

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =707770738

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =112027517

I've been looking at this till I'm blue in the face! Can anyone figure it out? Please :cry:
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1861
Thompson Lane, Sedgley, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

Sarah Bowwater Head Widow Female 76 1785 - Coseley, Staffordshire, England
Noah Bowater Son Unmarried Male 47 1814 - Coseley, Staffordshire, England

Marriage 16 Apr 1866 Sedgley All Saints
Isaac PARKES 48 bachelor Coseley Collier Edward PARKES Whitesmith
Sarah PARKES 35 spinster Coseley John PARKES Miner
Wit:Seth PUGH/Mary FLOWERS
Register note: Groom, Bride & Witness 2 sign X


1871
Masons Bank, Sedgley, Dudley, Staffordshire, England

Isaac Parkes Head - Male 55 1816 - Staffordshire, England
Sarah Parkes Wife - Female 46 1825 - Staffordshire, England
Isaac Parkes Son - Male 17 1854 - Staffordshire, England
Noah Bowater Lodger Male 49 1822 Miner Staffordshire

PARKES, ISAAC 59 Order
GRO Reference: 1871 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 45


27 Jan 1873
Noah BOWATER 50 B Miner Coseley Father Aaron Bowater (Dec) Screw Forger
Sarah PARKES 46 W Coseley Father John Parkes (Dec) Miner
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; William Bowater / Sarah Ann Bowater X

What seems to be problem? there is a dead link on BCC?

The census are only what the enumerator wrote from the original copy so there were always mistakes- Noah was a Bachelor I believe
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Noah Bowater age all over the place, 1871 says he is a widow, but no marriage found.

1841. Coseley, Sedgley.
Sarah Bowater. 45.
Noah Bowater. 28.
Silas Bowater. 15.

1851. Coseley, Sedgley.
Sarah Bowater 65. Widow. Sedgley.
Noah Bowater 36. Unmarried. Coal miner. Sedley.

1861. Humfrise Lane, Sedgley.
Sarah Bouater 76. Widow. Coseley.
Noah Bouater 47. unmarried. Coseley.

1871. Masons Bank, Sedgley.
Isaac Parkes 55.
Sarah Parkes 46.
Isaac Parkes 17.
Noah Bowater 49. Lodger. WIDOW. Miner.

Deaths Jun 1900.
Bowater  Noah.  84.  Dudley.  6c. 35.
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Exactly Jimmy :?
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Must just be a mistake on the census .
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Census are all over the place because they were hurried copies of the originals by an enumerator so can NOT be trusted as gospel :wink: All the Census up to 1911 were destroyed :cry:
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Jimmy wrote:1871. Masons Bank, Sedgley.
Isaac Parkes 55.
Sarah Parkes 46.
Isaac Parkes 17.
Noah Bowater 49. Lodger. WIDOW. Miner.


Looks like Isaac was married before,

1841.Coseley.
Isaac Parkes 25.
Phoebe Parkes 25.
Sarah Parkes 10.

Parkes on image.
1851. Coseley.
Isaac Parker 36. Married. coal miner.
Pheobe Parker 37. Wife.
Elizabeth Parker 8. dau.
John Parker 3. son.
All born Sedgley.

Parkes on image.
1861. Masons Bank, Sedgley.
Isaac Packer 44. Unmarried. Collier. Coseley
Sarah Packer 32. Servant. unmarried. Coseley.
John Packer 12. Son. Coseley.
Isaac Packer 6. Son. Coseley.

Dudley St Thomas.
Marriage date 31 Oct 1836.
Isaac PARKES. Bachelor. Dudley.
Phebe HARTSHORN. spinster. Dudley.


PARKES, ELIZABETH     HARTSHORNE.
GRO Reference: 1843  D Quarter in DUDLEY UNION  Volume 18  Page 314.

PARKES, JOHN     HARTSHORNE.
GRO Reference: 1848  J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION  Volume 18  Page 332.

PARKES, ISAAC     HARTSHORN.
GRO Reference: 1855  M Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 70.

Did Phoebe die giving birth to Isaac?

Death.
PARKES, PHOEBE  40.
GRO Reference: 1855  M Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 41.
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Dudley St Thomas.
Marriage date 31 Oct 1836.
Isaac PARKES. Bachelor. Dudley.
Phebe HARTSHORN. Spinster. Dudley.
Witness
Joseph COWLMAN.
Witness
Ellen TRUEMAN.
Register note By Banns-Groom Bride & witness 2 marked X. Witness 1 signed.
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Thanks Jimmy/RF

added here - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =570541449

Can be archived now please
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