Samuel Birch & Phoebe unknown--Mally adding
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Re: Samuel Birch & Phoebe unknown--Mally adding
Thanks, I'm a bit busy this weekend but will try to post it ASAP
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Ok, starting at https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... onnections
There's a possible baptism for Samuel:
FreeREG
Type: Baptism
County: Staffordshire
Place: Sedgley
Church name: All Saints
Register type: Parish Register
Register entry number: 1390
Baptism date: 15 Sep 1816
Birth date
Person forename: Samuel
Person sex: M
Person abode: Woodsetton
Father forename: Thomas
Father surname: BIRCH
Father occupation: Basket maker
Mother forename: Letticia
and a burial:
FreeREG
Type: Burial
County: Worcestershire
Place: Dudley
Church name: St James
Register type: Unspecified
Register entry number:
Burial date: 16 Apr 1882
Person age: 64
Burial person forename: Samuel
Burial person surname: BIRCH
Burial person abode: Queens Cross
Regarding his children:
As he's on my direct line I'll deal with Thomas later and Mary Ann's been dealt with on another topic.
For Samuel I have:
Name: BIRCH, SAMUEL
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOATER
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 274
Marriages Dec 1864 (>99%)
Birch Samuel Stourbridge 6c 297
Jeff Charlotte Stourbridge 6c 297
England, Select Marriages
Marriage Place: Pensnett, Staffordshire
Marriage Date: 19 Dec 1864
Name: Samuel Birch
Marital Status: Single
Age: 23
Father: Samuel Birch
Spouse: Charlotte Jeff
Marital Status: Single
Age: 21
Father: Thomas Jeff
For Elizabeth:
Name: BIRCH, -
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOWATER
GRO Reference: 1843 D Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 274
England, Select Marriages
Marriage Place: Rowley-Regis, Stafford, England
Marriage Date: 10 Nov 1866
Name: Elizabeth Birch
Age: 23
Father: Samuel Birch
Spouse: John Webbe
Age: 22
Father: John Webbe
For Pamela:
Name: BIRCH, PAMELA
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOWATER
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 263
FreeREG
Type: Baptism
County: Worcestershire
Place: Dudley
Church name: St Thomas
Register type: Unspecified
Register entry number: 1447
Baptism date: 01 Mar 1846
Birth date: 26 Jan 1846
Person forename: Pamela
Person sex: F
Person abode: Dudley
Father forename: Samuel
Father surname: BIRCH
Father occupation: Miner
Mother forename: Phebe
Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
BIRCH Pamela Dudley 6c 238
Pitt Samuel Dudley 6c 238
Then a second marriage:
England, Select Marriages
Marriage Place: St. Peter & St. Paul, Aston, Warwickshire
Marriage Date: 6 Aug 1882
Name: Pamela Pitt
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 35
Father: Samuel Birch
Spouse: William Short
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 40
Father: Samuel Short
For Joseph:
Name: BIRCH, JOSEPH
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOWATER
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 267
London C of E Parish Registers
Hackney
All Saints, Haggerston
Parish Register
Page 147
1878. Marriage solemnized at All Saints Church in the Parish of St Mary Haggerston in the County of Middlesex
No: 294
When: September 14th 1878
Groom: Joseph Birch
Age: 27
Condition: Bachelor
Profession: Boiler & Iron Shop Builder
Address: 48 Pownall Road
Father: Samuel Birch
Profession: Charter Master
Spouse: Harriet Jackson
Age: 22
Condition: Spinster
Address: 48 Pownall Road
Father: Thomas Jackson
Profession: Foreman in Gas Works
Married in the District Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me W.H. Pinnock LL.D
signed
Wits: Geo Jackson & Harry (Fanny?) Seabrook
For Louisa:
Name: BIRCH, LOUISA
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOWATER
GRO Reference: 1853 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 98
FreeREG
Type: Baptism
County: Worcestershire
Place: Dudley
Church name: St Thomas
Register type: Unspecified
Register entry number: 1960
Baptism date: 22 Jan 1854
Birth date: 10 Dec 1853
Person forename: Louisa
Person sex: F
Person abode: Blower Green
Father forename: Samuel
Father surname: BIRCH
Father occupation: Miner
Mother forename: Phoebe
Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)
BIRCH Louisa Dudley 6c 95
RAINBOW Percy Dudley 6c 95
Only a few extra details but they may tie in with others on the BCC pages.
There's a possible baptism for Samuel:
FreeREG
Type: Baptism
County: Staffordshire
Place: Sedgley
Church name: All Saints
Register type: Parish Register
Register entry number: 1390
Baptism date: 15 Sep 1816
Birth date
Person forename: Samuel
Person sex: M
Person abode: Woodsetton
Father forename: Thomas
Father surname: BIRCH
Father occupation: Basket maker
Mother forename: Letticia
and a burial:
FreeREG
Type: Burial
County: Worcestershire
Place: Dudley
Church name: St James
Register type: Unspecified
Register entry number:
Burial date: 16 Apr 1882
Person age: 64
Burial person forename: Samuel
Burial person surname: BIRCH
Burial person abode: Queens Cross
Regarding his children:
As he's on my direct line I'll deal with Thomas later and Mary Ann's been dealt with on another topic.
For Samuel I have:
Name: BIRCH, SAMUEL
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOATER
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 274
Marriages Dec 1864 (>99%)
Birch Samuel Stourbridge 6c 297
Jeff Charlotte Stourbridge 6c 297
England, Select Marriages
Marriage Place: Pensnett, Staffordshire
Marriage Date: 19 Dec 1864
Name: Samuel Birch
Marital Status: Single
Age: 23
Father: Samuel Birch
Spouse: Charlotte Jeff
Marital Status: Single
Age: 21
Father: Thomas Jeff
For Elizabeth:
Name: BIRCH, -
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOWATER
GRO Reference: 1843 D Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 274
England, Select Marriages
Marriage Place: Rowley-Regis, Stafford, England
Marriage Date: 10 Nov 1866
Name: Elizabeth Birch
Age: 23
Father: Samuel Birch
Spouse: John Webbe
Age: 22
Father: John Webbe
For Pamela:
Name: BIRCH, PAMELA
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOWATER
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 263
FreeREG
Type: Baptism
County: Worcestershire
Place: Dudley
Church name: St Thomas
Register type: Unspecified
Register entry number: 1447
Baptism date: 01 Mar 1846
Birth date: 26 Jan 1846
Person forename: Pamela
Person sex: F
Person abode: Dudley
Father forename: Samuel
Father surname: BIRCH
Father occupation: Miner
Mother forename: Phebe
Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
BIRCH Pamela Dudley 6c 238
Pitt Samuel Dudley 6c 238
Then a second marriage:
England, Select Marriages
Marriage Place: St. Peter & St. Paul, Aston, Warwickshire
Marriage Date: 6 Aug 1882
Name: Pamela Pitt
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 35
Father: Samuel Birch
Spouse: William Short
Marital Status: Widowed
Age: 40
Father: Samuel Short
For Joseph:
Name: BIRCH, JOSEPH
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOWATER
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 267
London C of E Parish Registers
Hackney
All Saints, Haggerston
Parish Register
Page 147
1878. Marriage solemnized at All Saints Church in the Parish of St Mary Haggerston in the County of Middlesex
No: 294
When: September 14th 1878
Groom: Joseph Birch
Age: 27
Condition: Bachelor
Profession: Boiler & Iron Shop Builder
Address: 48 Pownall Road
Father: Samuel Birch
Profession: Charter Master
Spouse: Harriet Jackson
Age: 22
Condition: Spinster
Address: 48 Pownall Road
Father: Thomas Jackson
Profession: Foreman in Gas Works
Married in the District Church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me W.H. Pinnock LL.D
signed
Wits: Geo Jackson & Harry (Fanny?) Seabrook
For Louisa:
Name: BIRCH, LOUISA
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOWATER
GRO Reference: 1853 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 98
FreeREG
Type: Baptism
County: Worcestershire
Place: Dudley
Church name: St Thomas
Register type: Unspecified
Register entry number: 1960
Baptism date: 22 Jan 1854
Birth date: 10 Dec 1853
Person forename: Louisa
Person sex: F
Person abode: Blower Green
Father forename: Samuel
Father surname: BIRCH
Father occupation: Miner
Mother forename: Phoebe
Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%)
BIRCH Louisa Dudley 6c 95
RAINBOW Percy Dudley 6c 95
Only a few extra details but they may tie in with others on the BCC pages.
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Re: Samuel Birch & Phoebe unknown--Mally adding
added all and a bit more to BCC - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =827633531
That's your lot! Must get some chores done now
That's your lot! Must get some chores done now
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Re: Samuel Birch & Phoebe unknown--Mally adding
Wolverhampton St Peter.
Marriage date 17 Feb 1812.
Thomas BIRCH. Bachelor.
Leatitia MILLS. Spinster.
Witness
Samuel ROBERTS.
Witness
Michael SHORE.
Marriage date 17 Feb 1812.
Thomas BIRCH. Bachelor.
Leatitia MILLS. Spinster.
Witness
Samuel ROBERTS.
Witness
Michael SHORE.
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Re: Samuel Birch & Phoebe unknown--Mally adding
I don't believe it.... 
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We can't have you slacking.lol
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Re: Samuel Birch & Phoebe unknown--Mally adding
Jimmy wrote:Wolverhampton St Peter.
Marriage date 17 Feb 1812.
Thomas BIRCH. Bachelor.
Leatitia MILLS. Spinster.
Witness
Samuel ROBERTS.
Witness
Michael SHORE.
Mmmm, I wonder....
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Letticia Birch
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1829
Marriage Place: Saint Peter Or Collegiate,Wolverhampton,Stafford,England
Spouse: James Betton
FHL Film Number: 0873647 IT 3, 0873647 IT 4, 421622, 421623, 497360, 497361, 497362, 497363, 497364, 497365
1851: Dudley Road, Sedgley
James Betton 73 Head Ag Lab Ponterbury, Shropshire
Letitia Betton 63 Wife Sedgley, Staffordshire
Henry Palmer 23 Lodger marr Sedgley
Betsy Palmer 22 Lodger marr Sedgley
Mary Ann Palmer 1 Lodger Sedgley
England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
James Betton
Registration Year: 1855
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 6
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Yes....
Freereg
Staffordshire
Place (link for place information) Wolverhampton
Church name St Peter
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 25 Oct 1829
Groom forename James
Groom surname BETTON
Groom condition Widower
Bride forename Letticia
Bride surname BIRCH
Bride condition Widow
Witness Richard FELLOWS
Witness John BIDDULPH
Register note Banns
Freereg
Staffordshire
Place (link for place information) Wolverhampton
Church name St Peter
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 25 Oct 1829
Groom forename James
Groom surname BETTON
Groom condition Widower
Bride forename Letticia
Bride surname BIRCH
Bride condition Widow
Witness Richard FELLOWS
Witness John BIDDULPH
Register note Banns
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Re: Samuel Birch & Phoebe unknown--Mally adding
1851: Dudley Road, Sedgley
James Betton 73 Head Ag Lab Ponterbury, Shropshire
Letitia Betton 63 Wife Sedgley, Staffordshire
Henry Palmer 23 Lodger marr Sedgley
Betsy Palmer 22 Lodger marr Sedgley
Mary Ann Palmer 1 Lodger Sedgley
1841: Sheepcotwall, Sedgley, Staffs
James Betton abt 1781 Lab ( nbic )
Leticia Betton abt 1791 Sedgley, Staffordshire
John Betton abt 1821 Miner Sedgley, Staffordshire
Ann Betton abt 1825 Lab Sedgley, Staffordshire
Betsy Betton abt 1830 Sedgley, Staffordshire ...............Is she James and Elizabeth's daughter?
Hannah Berch abt 1823 Sedgley, Staffordshire
Looks like James 1st marriage....
Staffordshire
Place (link for place information) Wolstanton
Church name St Margaret
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 11
Marriage date 04 Nov 1822
Groom forename James
Groom surname BETTON
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode Wolstanton
Groom parish Wolstanton
Groom occupation Collier
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname GIBSON
Bride condition widow
Bride abode Wolstanton
Bride parish Wolstanton
Witness David JOHNSON
Witness John HASSALL
Register note By Banns. Bride, Groom and 1st witness made their mark thus X.
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Death Jun 1855
Betton James Dudley 6c 36
I think Leticia ended up in the workhouse...
1861: District Dudley Union Workhouse
L.B. Inmate Wid 75 Sedgley, Staffs
England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Letitia Betton
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Registration Year: 1875
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 71
Will start a new thread for James Betton and family
Betton James Dudley 6c 36
I think Leticia ended up in the workhouse...
1861: District Dudley Union Workhouse
L.B. Inmate Wid 75 Sedgley, Staffs
England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Letitia Betton
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Registration Year: 1875
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Dudley
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 71
Will start a new thread for James Betton and family
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Can this be archived?
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As far as I'm concerned it can be.
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Take it away Jan
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Take it away Jan
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