James Adams Licensed Victualler died 1880

[Rob]

Are these 3 James Adams on BCC the same person?
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =449885456
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =118644782
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... i=81114847

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Found these records about Absalom Adams which might help
He was son of a James and Mary Adams born 1829 RR
James and Appeared to place children with other relatives

1841 Census Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Adams 20 Nailer
Ann Adams 20
Jonah Adams 2mths.
Absalom Adams 12 Nailer
All born Staffs.

1851 Census Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Phillis Pitaway Head (wid) 59 Nailer
James Adams brother 55 (m) Nailer
Mary Adams dau.in.law 55 (m) Nailer
Thomas Adams nephew 30 (u) Nailer
Absalom Adams nephew 22 Nailer
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1861 Census Blackheath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Absalom Adams Head 32 Nailer
Eliza Adams wife 28 Nailer
Ann Parkes sister.in.law 35 Nailer
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1871 Census Halesowen Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Absalom Adams Head 42 Nailer
Eliza Adams wife 38 Nailer
Mary Adams dau 3
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1881 Census 40 Halesowen Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Absalom Adams Head 50 Nail Forger
Eliza Adams wife 47 Nail Forger
Mary Adams dau 13 Nail Forger
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1891 Census 43 Halesowen Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Absalom Adams Head 62 Nailer
Eliza Adams wife 58 Nailer
Mary Adams dau 23 Nailer
All born Rowley Regis Staffs

1901 Census 40 Halesowen Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Samuel Portman Head 31 Labourer Stone Quarryman
Mary Portman wife 33 born Blackheath Staffs.
Leonard Portman son 4 born Blackheath Staffs.
Absalom Adams Head 72 Father.in.law (wid)
All born Rowley Regis Staffs

Freereg Marriage 18/9/1859
Absalom Adams Bach Nailer Dudley father deceased
Eliza Parkes sp. Dudley father deceased
Witnesses Joseph Rollinson and Clarissa Rowe

Marriage St Paul Blackheath 1893 Samuel Portman and Mary Adams

[mumbles]

Absalom Adams and Eliza Parkes already on bcc

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =789475672

But I believe connected to wrong parents as

Age on subsequent census records is clearly 1829 and not 1834

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1841 Census Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Adams 20 Nailer
Ann Adams 20
Jonah Adams 2mths.
Absalom Adams 12 Nailer
All born Staffs.

Marriage Halesowen St. John 4/12/1838
Joseph Adams 19 Bach Nailer Gosty Hill father James Adams Nailer
Ann Payne 17 Spinster Gosty Hill Father William Payne Hinge Maker
Witnesses Richard & Mary Sivetor

So it would appear Absalom was staying with his brother Joseph in 1841

[Jimmy]

None on BCC,

Worcestershire.
Dudley St Thomas.
Register entry number 702.
Marriage date 28 Oct 1816.
Thomas PITWAY. bachelor. Dudley.
Phillis ADAMS. spinster. Dudley.
Witness,
Samuel PASKINS.
Witness,
Barnett HOMER.
Register note
By Banns-Bride Groom & witness (2) Marked X. Witness (1) signed.

[Jimmy]

Staffordshire.
Rowley Regis st Giles.
Baptism date 10 Dec 1791.
Phillis
Father Joseph ADAMS.
Mother Nancy.

Staffordshire.
Rowley Regis St Giles.
Baptism date 16 Oct 1796.
James
Father Joseph ADAMS.
Mother Nancy.

[Jimmy]

Poss,

Worcestershire.
Dudley St Thomas.
Register entry number 698.
Marriage date 14 Oct 1816.
James ADAMS. bachelor. Dudley.
Mary LOW. spinster. Dudley.
Witness,
Samuel PASKIN.
Witness,
Joseph ADAMS.
Register note
By Banns- Groom & witness (2) marked X. Bride & witness (1).

[Jimmy]

1841. Village.
Phillis Barton 45.
James Adams 45.
Mary Adams 45.
Jane Adams 15.

[Rob]

I think they are two different James Adams's. The one is a Nailer and lives in Rowley Village and the other is a Victualler living Gorsty Hill.

[mumbles]

Possibly different James Adams but I still think Absalom is connected to wrong parents and is related to Joseph Adams and Ann Payne as could not be son as they are 20 and he is 12

1841 Census Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Adams 20 Nailer
Ann Adams 20
Jonah Adams 2mths.
Absalom Adams 12 Nailer
All born Staffs.

1851 Census Lilley Pot Row Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Adams Head 32 Nail Forger
Ann Adams wife 30 Nail Forger born Halesowen Worcs.
Elizabeth Adams dau 8 Scholar
Joseph Adams son 6 Scholar
Josiah Adams son 4
Job Adams son 0
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1861 Census Bell End Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Adams Head 42 Nailer
Ann Adams wife 40 Nailer born Halesowen Worcs.
Joseph Adams son 16 Nailer
Jonah Adams son 14 Nailer
Job Adams son 10 Nailer
Jemima Adams dau 8 Nailer
Alfred Adams son 4 Nailer
Arthur Adams son 2
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1871 Census Halesowen Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Adams Head 52 Nailer
Ann Adams wife 50 Nailer born Halesowen Worcs.
Job Adams son 20 Nailer
Jemima Adams dau 18 Nailer
Alfred Adams son 15 Nailer
Arthur Adams son 13 Nailer
James Adams son 8 Scholar
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1881 Census 107 Halesowen Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Adams Head 62 Labourer
Ann Adams wife 61
James Adams son 18
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

[Northern Lass]

In 1841 Phillis Barton is here

1841: Village
Phillis Barton 45
James Adams 45
Mary Adams 45
Jane Adams 15
living next door are the Pool family with a William Adams aged 13 or 15


then in 1851 she is here and down as having james adams as brother....


1851 Census Village Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Phillis Pitaway Head (wid) 59 Nailer
James Adams brother 55 (m) Nailer
Mary Adams dau.in.law 55 (m) Nailer
Thomas Adams nephew 30 (u) Nailer
Absalom Adams nephew 22 Nailer
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

who is she....is there a Phillis adams that has father John and nancy

[Northern Lass]

Amended Absolom and connected up here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =912764840

[Northern Lass]

Just seen Jimmys post

so Phillis and James are sibs
father Joseph and mother nancy

so not same as other James on bcc

so do we still have 3 diff James?....

[Jimmy]

Get your act together Jan.

[mumbles]

Have Added more info on Samuel Portman who married Mary Adams and Connected up to Portman and Daniels families on BCC


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