Arc tbc..Esther Westwood and brother Thomas?

[Jimmy]

1871.
Esther Westwood.
Age: 4.
Estimated birth year: abt 1867.
Relation: Inmate.
Gender: Female.
Where born: Oldbury, Worcestershire, England.
Civil Parish: West Bromwich.
Ecclesiastical parish: All.
County/Island: Staffordshire.
Country: England.
Registration district: West Bromwich.
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East.
ED, institution, or vessel: West Bromwich Union Workhouse.
Household schedule number: 1.
Piece: 2986.
Folio: 158.
Page Number: 16.

And,
Thomas Westwood.
Age: 2.
Estimated birth year: abt 1869.
Relation: Inmate.
Gender: Male.
Where born: Oldbury, Worcestershire, England.
Civil Parish: West Bromwich.
Ecclesiastical parish: All.
County/Island: Staffordshire.
Country: England.
Registration district: West Bromwich.
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich North East.
ED, institution, or vessel: West Bromwich Union Workhouse.
Household schedule number: 1.
Piece: 2986.
Folio: 158.
Page Number: 16.

Esther in 1881, ?

1881. London Road, Westerham, Kent.
Sarah Westwood 37. Widow. Machinist. Birmingham.
Esther Westwood 14. Dau. Oldbury.
Frank Cox 40. Boarder.

[grangers14]

Looking at GRO for Thomas,

WESTWOOD, THOMAS HENRY JORDAN
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 140

WESTWOOD, THOMAS WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 685

A matching mothers surname Jordan but that is in Dudley?? The other no surname...

[grangers14]

?? Marriage
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1862
JORDAN Mary A WESTWOOD Edwin Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/020/353

[Northern Lass]

not sure what we are doing on this one

but adding in esther and thomas as sibs
based on mothers name on gro...will add note
WESTWOOD, ESTHER JORDAN Order
GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 103

[Northern Lass]

Can't see Edwin Westwood and wife Mary ann on that 1871 workhouse census
can anyone see them in 1871 pls.dunno their age...

[Jimmy]

1871. 82 Stourbridge Road, Dudley.
Edwin Westwood 33. Hartshill, can't make out occupation.
Mary A Westwood 29. Oldswinford
Agnes F Westwood 6. Hartshill.
Thomas H Westwood 1. Hartshill.
Edith E Westwood 1 Month. Hartshill.

[Jimmy]

1881. 82 Stourbridge Rd, Dudley.
Edwin Westwood 46. Bolter Down In Mill.
Mary A. Westwood 37. Coalbourne Pks, Staffs.
Thomas H. Westwood 11.
Edith E. Westwood 10.
Fred W. Westwood 6.
Mary A. Westwood 3.
James J. Westwood 8 Months.

Others born Dudley.

Next door, 83 Stourbridge Rd,

Mary A. Jordan 67. Widow. Stourbridge.
Alfred A. Jordan 29.Son.
Eleanor Jordan 17. Grand dau.
Charles Pope 24. Nephew.

Others borhn Dudley.

[Jimmy]

Esther Westwood.
Registration Year: 1867.
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep.
Registration district: Dudley.
Volume: 6c.
Page: 103.

Looks like this one,


Esther Westwood.
Gender: Female.
Birth Date: 21 May 1867.
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1867.
Baptism Place: Saint Thomas,Dudley,Worcester,England.
Father: Edward Westwood.
Mother: Mary Ann.
FHL Film Number: 378782, 378784, 378785.


I think the one we want is this one,

Esther Westwood.
Registration Year: 1867.
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar.
Registration district: West Bromwich.
Inferred County: Staffordshire.
Volume: 6b.
Page: 677.

[Jimmy]

1871. 82 Stourbridge Road, Dudley.
Edwin Westwood 33. Hartshill, can't make out occupation.
Mary A Westwood 29. Oldswinford
Agnes F Westwood 6. Hartshill.
Thomas H Westwood 1. Hartshill.
Edith E Westwood 1 Month. Hartshill.

Next door,

Jordan on image, there is no birth record for an Esther Jordan,

1871. 83 Stourbridge Road, Dudley.
Mary Ann Jadin 58. Widow. Colebrooke, Staffordshire.
Alfred A Jadin 26. Son.
Ellenor Jadin 8. Granddaughter. Hartshill.
Esther Jadin 4. Granddaughter. Hartshill.

[Northern Lass]

Right so the Esther and thomas in workhouse in 1871 are not kids of Edwin Westwood and mary ann Jordan

so this one
WESTWOOD, ESTHER JORDAN Order
GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 103

is probably dau of Mary ann Jordan who marries Edwin Westwood?

but they were not in workhouse.

will amend on bcc re ref to workhouse

then giving up on this thread as not a clue what I need to add

[Jimmy]

I think the Esther Jordan grand dau is Esther Westwood.

[Northern Lass]

looks like it Ok thanks Jimmy

flagging to archive if all done with.

[Jimmy]

N L the year on this marriage should be 1862, not 1842.

13th April 1842 St Thomas Dudley
Edwin Westwood full bach puddler Dudley Thomas Westwood dead miner
Mary Ann Jordan minor spinster Dudley James Jordan dead Publican
Bannns
X Edwin Mary Ann signed
wit Mary Ann Pope? /William Pope?

[Northern Lass]

Thanks jimmy amending

[Jimmy]

I am glad someone is awake.