Eliza Unknown abt 1854 on BCC.--NL ADDING

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1873.
BILLINGHAM Matthew. ROSE Sarah. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/030/237.

On BCC, http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=382617

1881. Lomey Town, Rowley Regis.
Mathew Billingham 31. Iron worker.
Sarah Billingham 30.
Sarah Billingham 5.
Ellenor Billingham 4.
Daniel Billingham 2.
John H. Billingham 8 months.

All born Cradley Heath.

1871. Lomey Town, Rowley Regis.
Charles Billingham 40. Puddler.
Elizabeth Billingham 42.
Mathew Billingham 23. Puddler.
Sarah E Billingham 15.
Joseph Billingham 13.
Emanuel Billingham 10.
Charles Billingham 8.
Thomas Billingham 6.
Mary A Billingham 3.
Enoch Billingham 1.

All born Rowley Regis.

1861.
Charles Billingham 31. Puddler.
Elizabeth Billingham 33.
Matthew Billingham 10.
Sarah Billingham 5.
Joseph Billingham 3.
Emanuel Billingham 6/12.

[Jimmy]

I can't see a marriage for Charles and Elizabeth but there is this,

1851. Lomey Town.
Daniel Billingham 25. Chain maker.
Elizabeth Billingham 23.
Mathew Billingham 7 Mo.
All born Rowley Regis.

County Worcestershire.
Place Dudley.
Church name St Thomas.
Register type Unspecified.
Register entry number 469.
Marriage date 12 Jun 1848.
Groom forename Daniel
Groom surname BILLINGHAM.
Groom age of full age.
Groom condition bachelor.
Groom abode Dudley.
Groom occupation Chain Maker.
Bride forename Elizabeth
Bride surname CLIFT.
Bride age of full age.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride abode Dudley.
Groom father forename Benjamin
Groom father surname BILLINGHAM.
Groom father occupation Chain Maker.
Bride father forename Henry
Bride father surname CLIFT.
Bride father occupation Miner.
Witness Benjamin BILLINGHAM.
Witness Elizabeth BILLINGHAM.
Register note By Banns-Groom Bride & witness 2 marked X. Witness 1 signed.

[Northern Lass]

Got the charles and Elizabeth marriage added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =292041783

[Northern Lass]

Ok so without the birth certif for the 1849 Foley billingham still stuck on his and Elizas father.

Susannah Billingham widow on 1861
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =814059025

dau Eliza has wits Matthew and Sarah Billingham who are here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =653356951

dau mira has wit Eliza Billingham so think we have correct family and when married is in 1881 living next door to Matthew Billingham

so think we have the right family for Eliza.

but can't connect Susannah to the Billinghams and who she married if anyone.

can't see any bapts for Susannahs kids.

Can anyone find Susannah on the 1851 or any other census pls.

or a death.

[rockyfowler]

Sarah Rose dad in BCC http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=382678

[Northern Lass]

Sarah Rose dad in BCC http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=382678

Yep connected that one up

so all this thread is stuck on now is who Susannah married...if anyone
and who is father to
Ann Eliza foley and mira

and I am stuck

[BC Wench]

How do you think this looks.....

????Marriage: 31 May 1846 St Leonard, Clent
John Billingham, FA, B, Chain Maker, Rowley Regis, Samuel Billingham, Chain Maker
Susannah Griffiths, FA, S, Rowley Regis, John Griffiths, Dead
Wit: Mark Stevens, Lucy Stevens

I can't see the Billingham family on the 1851 census.

John dies here

Burial: 25 November 1860 St Luke (Reddal Hill), Rowley Regis
John Billingham - Abode: Lomey Town - Age: 41 born 1819

1861. Lomey Town. (ALREADY ON BCC)
Susannah Billingham 36. Widow. nailer. born 1825
Ann Billingham 14. 1847
Foley Billingham 11. 1850
Mira Billingham 8. 1853
Eliza Billingham 6. 1855
All born Rowley.

Living next door is

Susannah Griffiths, Head.Wid, 80
John Griffiths, Son.UM, 49, Chain Maker
Henry Griffiths, Son.UM, 57, Blacksmith

Are John & Henry Griffiths, Susannah Billingham's brothers?

1871 Census: Lomey Town, Rowley Regis
Susannah Billingham, Head.Wid, 56, Chainmaker born 1815
Mirah Billingham, Dau.UM, 19, Chainmaker 1852
Eliza Billingham, Dau.UM, 17, Chainmaker 1854
John Griffiths, Lodger.UM, 59, Chainmaker 1812
Henry Griffiths, Lodger.UM, 57, Chainmaker 1814
(All born Rowley Regis)

1881 Census: 39 Lomey Town, Rowley Regis
Susannah Billingham, Head.Wid, 67 1814
Henry Griffiths, Boarder.UM, 69, Labourer at Iron Works
(Both born Rowley Regis)

1891 Census: 39 Lomey Town, Rowley Regis
Susannah Billingham, Head.Wid, 72, Rowley Regis 1819

Going back to the Griffiths family

1841 Census: Lomey Town, Rowley Regis
Susannah Griffis, 55, Nailer
John Griffis, 30
Henry Griffis, 25
Susannah Griffis, 20 is this Susannah who marries John Billingham in 1846?
Sarah Griffis, 20
Herbert Griffis, 20
Enock Griffis, 15
Ellen Griffis, 1
(All born Rowley Regis

1851 Census: Lomey Town, Rowley Regis
Susanah Griffiths, Head.Wid, 71, Nailer
John Griffiths, Son.UM, 40, Horse Nail Maker
Henry Griffiths, Son.UM, 38, Works in Iron Works
Herbert Griffiths, Son.UM, 31, Chain Maker
Enoch Griffiths, Son.UM, 27, Chain Maker 1824
Ellen Griffiths, Dau, 10, Scholar (her mother would have been abt 61 when she born????)
(All born Rowley Regis)

1861 Census: Lomey Town, Rowley Regis
Susannah Griffiths, Head.Wid, 80
John Griffiths, Son.UM, 49, Chain Maker
Henry Griffiths, Son.UM, 57, Blacksmith

The only baptisms I can see for these Billingham & Griffiths families are

Born: 8 September 1822
Birth place PARTICULAR BAPTIST,CRADLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
Enoch the son of John & Susanah Griffiths

Could this be Enoch the son of Susannah & John Griffiths?

1861 Census: Lomey Town, Rowley Regis
Enock Griffiths, Head.Mar, 36, Chain Maker, Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Griffiths, Wife, 37, Chesham, Bucks
Charles Cox, Son in law, 7, Tring, Herts (step son?)
Elizabeth Cox, Niece, 3, Rowley Regis

Marriage: 1862 All Saints, West Bromwich (No date given on FreeREG)
Enoch Griffiths, 38, B, Chain Maker, West Bromwich, John Griffiths, Horse nail maker
Elizabeth Cox, 39, Wid, West Bromwich, Father: Stolhem Neal, Farrier
Wit: Benjamin Griffiths, Nancy Griffiths

[rockyfowler]

Marriage: 1862 All Saints, West Bromwich (No date given on FreeREG)
Enoch Griffiths, 38, B, Chain Maker, West Bromwich, John Griffiths, Horse nail maker
Elizabeth Cox, 39, Wid, West Bromwich, Father: Stolhem Neal, Farrier
Wit: Benjamin Griffiths, Nancy Griffiths

Date was 2 June 1862

[Northern Lass]

I think you have cracked it Barb ...well done and thanks RF for info too...and of course Jimmy!
what would we do without our unknowns from Jimmy...you keep us all busy and our minds buzzing.

I will add this when I get a min I think that is susannahs marriage
add some if you want barb..might be a day or so till I can.

[BC Wench]

I'll add to BCC later today NL. Thanks for the date of the marriage RF.

[Northern Lass]

I'll add to BCC later today NL. Thanks for the date of the marriage RF.

That would be great Barb
if when you finished you could put Completed on the thread at end I will then archive

[BC Wench]

Susannah connected here

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=383028

I haven't put the marriage of Enoch Griffiths (Susannah's brother) as I will do some more work on him as I think that the witnesses to his possible marriage are his brother and sister-in-law.

COMPLETED

[Northern Lass]

Brilliant thank you

will now archive.