Betsy Unknown abt 1851 on BCC,

[Jimmy]

Betsy Unknown abt 1851 on BCC,

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=376595

Ages match,

Worcestershire.
Place Halesowen.
Church name St John the Baptist.
Register type Parish Register.
Register entry number 407.
Marriage date 27 Dec 1869.
Groom forename John
Groom surname HALL.
Groom age 19.
Groom condition bachelor.
Groom abode Hill.
Groom occupation nailer.
Bride forename Betsey
Bride surname JONES.
Bride age 18.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride abode Hill.
Bride occupation nailer.
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname HALL.
Groom father occupation nailer.
Bride father forename Thomas
Bride father surname JONES.
Bride father occupation nailer.
Witness Thomas JONES.
Witness Isabell ADAMS.

[grangers14]

There are 2 John and Betsy around the same age...

This one too
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1870
HALL John WARD Betsy Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/027/484

I wonder if the marriage you found belongs to this one as address is Hill?
1871. Long Lane, Hill.
John Hall, head, 20, Labourer,
Betsy. Wife, 19, nail maker,
Emma, daur, 2 months
All born Halesowen

[Jimmy]

1871. Bath Row, Oldbury.
John Hall 22. Labourer. Halesowen.
Betsy Hall 21. Oldbury.

[Jimmy]

1861. Rounds Green, Oldbury.
Joseph Ward 57. Engineer coal pit. Bilston.
Sarah Ward 57. Bilston.
Eliza Ward 14. West Bromwich.
Betsey Ward 10. Oldbury.

1851. Rounds Green, Oldbury.
Joe Ward 46. Engineer. Bilston.
Sarah Ward 45. Bilston.
George Ward 20. Bilston.
Willm Ward 16. Bilston.
Ann Ward 14. Bilston.
Sarah Ward 10. Bilston.
Eliza Ward 5. Garatt Green.
Betsy Ward 3 Wks. Oldbury.

[grangers14]

1881. Long Lane, Cakemore.
John Hall, head, 30, Labourer
Betsy, wife, 29, Nail maker,
Emma, daur, 10,
Thomas, son, 8,
Fred, son, 7,
Frank, son, 3 months, Cakemore
Mary Jones, Mother in law, 66, Rowley
Others born Quinton

1891. Long Lane, Hill,
John Hall, head, 41, ? Quinton
Betsy, wife, 40, Long Lane
Emma, daur, 20, New England
Thomas, son, 18, wood sawyer, New England
Frederick, son, 17, Under Groom, New England
Frank. Son, 10, New England
Owen? Son, 9, Long Lane
Joseph, son, 7, Long Lane
Alice, daur, 4, Long Lane
Harry, son, 3, Long Lane
Steven?, son, 9? Months, Long Lane

1901. 12 Jackson Street, Oldbury
John Hall, head, 50, Chemical Works labourer, Quinton
Betsy, wife, 48,
Owen, son, 18,Sawyer
Joseph, son, 17, House Painter,
Alice, daur, 14,
Harry Hall, son, 13,
Stephen, son, 10,
All others born Long Lane

1911. 6 Jackson Street, Langley Green, Oldbury
John Hall, Head, 60, Retired Furnaceman, Stourbridge
Betsy Hall, wife, 59, married 41 years, 13 children 7 living,
Frank Hall, son, 30, Labourer Glass works
Harry Hall, son, 23, Machinist Boring Table Engine Factory
Others all born Long Lane

[Jimmy]

1861. Long Lane, Hill.
Thomas Jones 55. Nail maker. Hill.
Mary Jones 47. Rowley.
Harriett Jones 18. Hill.
John Jones 16. Hill.
Thomas Jones 14. Rowley.
Samuel Jones 12. Hill.
Betsey Jones 10. Dau. Hill.
James Jones 6. Hill.

[grangers14]

Betsy Jones is on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =516501333

[Jimmy]

1871. Bath Row, Oldbury.
John Hall 22. Labourer. Halesowen.
Betsy Hall 21. Oldbury.

1881. 3 Fosters Sq Court, Oldbury.
John Hall 32. Iron Work Labourer, Halesowen.
Betty Hall 31. Oldbury.
John T. Hall 2. Oldbury.

[Jimmy]

1861. Long Lane, Hill.
Susannah Hall 74. Widow. Illey.
Sarah Male 21. Grand dau. Hill.
Elizabeth Male 1. Grand dau. Kingswinford.
John Hall 12. Grandson. Assists at Rivit making. Halesowen.

1851. Long Lane, Hill.
John Hall 21. Nailer.
Priscilla Hall 22.
John S Hall 2. Dau.
Susana Hall 5 Mo. Son.

House before,

Sushannah Hall 66. Widow.
Caroline Hall 24. Dau. Nailer.
Harriett Hall 22. Dau.
Joseph Hall 3. Grand son.
William Hall 1. Grand son.
Eliza Male 12. Granddau.
Sarah Male 11. Granddau.

All born Halesowen.

[Jimmy]

1861. Quinton.
Thomas Hall 61. Married. Nail maker.
Elizebeth Hall 25. Dau.
Thomas Hall 23. Son.
John Hall 21. Son. Nail maker.
John Hall 10. Grand son.
Harry Hall 1. Grand son.

All born Halesowen, Ridgeacre.

1851. Upper Quinton.
Thomas Hall 52. Nailer.
Ann Hall 52.
William Hall 26. Son.
Elizabeth Hall 15. Dau.
Thomas Hall 13. Son.
John Hall 11. Son.
Sarah Panldge 28. Dau. [Sarah Partridge]
Henry Hall 2. Daughters child, [Grandchild].
William Hall 4. Great Gandchild.

1841. Quinton.
Thomas Hall 40. Nailer.
Ann Hall 40.
Joseph Hall 20.
Sarah Hall 15.
William Hall 15.
Jane Hall 9.
Etty Hall 7.
Elizabeth Hall 5.
Thomas Hall 3.
John Hall 1.

[Jimmy]

1851. Upper Quinton.
Thomas Hall 52. Nailer.
Ann Hall 52.
William Hall 26. Son.
Elizabeth Hall 15. Dau.
Thomas Hall 13. Son.
John Hall 11. Son.
Sarah Panldge 28. Dau. [Sarah Partridge]
Henry Hall 2. Daughters child, [Grandchild].
William Hall 4. Great Gandchild.

Ancestry,
Birmingham, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937.

Sarah Hall. 28. Spinster. Father Thomas Hall. Blacksmith.
Thomas Partridge. 40. Widower. Tile cutter. Father Thomas Partridge. Nail smith.
Marriage Date: 30 Mar 1851.
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Philip, Warwickshire, England.
Reference Number: DRO 25.
Archive Roll: M55.

[Jimmy]

1861. Long Lane, Ridgacre.
Thomas Partridge 50. Tile cutter.
Sarah Partridge 39.
William Partridge 17. Son. ( William Hall in 1851. )
Henry Partridge 12. Son. ( Henry Hall in 1851. )
Ann E Partridge 9. Dau.
James Partridge 4. Son.
Fredrick Partridge 2. Son.
Sarah A Partridge 8/12. Dau.

All born Halesowen Ridgacre.

[grangers14]

I have connected up Betsy and added info for this John Hall.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =916162196

I have asked for a look up for the other marriage just so we can look properly. So will archive his pending look up.
Jo

[grangers14]

Thanks for the look up RF

Marriage Looked up by RF
26 Jun 1870. St Thomas, Dudley.
John HALL 21 B Whitesmith Dudley Father John Hall Whitesmith
Betsy WARD 20 S Dudley Father Joseph Ward Engineer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Mary Ann Stokes X / James Green

[grangers14]

Joseph Ward and Betsy has been added here...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=17663945

So just to confirm John Hall and father John...