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Garratt/ Bannister/Guest puzzle

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This Alfred Garratt:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=371646
Was born abt 1845, Netherton.

He married Mary A Bannister (b abt 1842, Netherton).

They married 1865, St James, Dudley- Alfred gives his father as Thomas Garratt (I know he was born abt 1802, Shrewsbury), but Mary gives her father as Benjamin Guest? (Both bride and groom are described as single).
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Re: Garratt/ Bannister/Guest puzzle

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Additional info and connections:

Arthur Garratt and Sarah Maria Richards:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=371646
Had other children:
Edward RICHARDS b1896, Dudley (presume he's theirs....)
Arthur b1909 was Arthur Edward
Phoebe May b 30 Dec 1911, Dudley - she married (1933, St Luke, Dudley), Cyril Shakespeare b 12 Feb 1907, Dudley. He was the son of James Shakespeare/ Charlotte Eleanor Pugh, here on BCC:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=371649
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Re: Garratt/ Bannister/Guest puzzle

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Thomas Garratt b 1802, Shrewsbury, married Mary Benbow, b abt 1811, Brockmoor, 5 Nov 1827, Old Swinford.

Mary Benbow was bapt 25 Aug 1811, Kingswinford, d of Thomas & Hannah
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Re: Garratt/ Bannister/Guest puzzle

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There is a birth for Mary Ann Guest, but not Mary Bannister.

Births Sep 1841.
Guest Mary Ann. Dudley. 18. 282.

1851. Tipton.
James Jeavons 38. Publican.
Mary Jeavons 34.
John Jeavons 4.
Phebe Jeavons 1.
Mary Guest 9. Relation. born Netherton.
Elizth Moore 20
Jane Edwards 12
Phebe Lewis 18
James James 38
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Jimmy wrote:There is a birth for Mary Ann Guest, but not Marry Bannister.

Births Sep 1841.
Guest Mary Ann. Dudley. 18. 282.

1851. Tipton.
James Jeavons 38. Publican.
Mary Jeavons 34.
John Jeavons 4.
Phebe Jeavons 1.
Mary Guest 9. Relation. born Netherton.
Elizth Moore 20
Jane Edwards 12
Phebe Lewis 18
James James 38


Hello Jimmy!
Just had the same thought, and found this on Familysearch:

1841, Northfield Road (Netherton, which is where the family seem to have lived):
Benjamin Guest, 35-39, Worcs
Hannah, 35-39
Elizabeth, 14
Joseph, 11, Worcs
Samuel, 8. Worcs
Elizabeth, 6, Worcs
John, 3, Worcs
Mary Ann, 1, Worcs
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Re: Garratt/ Bannister/Guest puzzle

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1861. Northfield Road, Dudley.
Benjamin Guest 54. Nail maker. Dudley.
Hannah Guest 55. Rowley.
Elizah Guest 16. Dudley.
Mathew Guest 15. Dudley.

next door,
George James 42.
Eliza James 41.
George James 8.
William Bridgwater 15.


1851. Northfield Road, Dudley.
Benjamin Guest 46.
Hannah Guest 47.
Samuel Guest 18.
Eliza Guest 16.
John Guest 14.
Mary Ann Guest 12.
Septimus Guest 9.
Elizah Guest 4.
Matthew Guest 4.
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Re: Garratt/ Bannister/Guest puzzle

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The Witnesses are in BCC http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=371660 S Bannister / Charles Beard :wink:
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Re: Garratt/ Bannister/Guest puzzle

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It looks like a mistake on the certificate.
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Re: Garratt/ Bannister/Guest puzzle

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Did Mary sign or make her mark on the cert,
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Re: Garratt/ Bannister/Guest puzzle

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1851. Bumblehole, Dudley.
Ann Bannister 48. Labourer i think.
Joseph Bannister 12.
Mary Bannister 9.

All born Dudley.


1841. Bumblehole, Dudley, Worcs.
Ann Banester 40. Widow.
Wm Banester 15.
Hannah Banester 9.
Jas Banester 3.
Benjamin Guest 40. Nailer.

All b.i.c.
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For information about this place follow the link to Dudley

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Field VALUE
County Worcestershire
Place Dudley
Church name St Thomas
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 291
Burial date 19 May 1839
Person age 46
Burial person forename Joseph
Burial person surname BANNISTER
Burial person abode Netherton
Relationship
Male relative forename
Female relative forename
Relative surname
Register note Died 14 May
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Worcestershire.
Place Dudley.
Church name St Thomas.
Register type Unspecified.
Register entry number 2050.
Baptism date 21 Oct 1838.
Birth date 24 Sep 1838.
Person forename Joseph.
Person sex M.
Person abode Bumble Hole.
Father forename Joseph
Father surname BANNISTER.
Father occupation Labourer.
Mother forename Ann.
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Re: Garratt/ Bannister/Guest puzzle

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Jimmy wrote:Did Mary sign or make her mark on the cert,


No reply from poster so heres the full info Jimmy

21 Feb 1865 St James
Alfred Garratt 19 B Labourer Dudley Father Thomas Garratt Labourer
Mary BANNISTER 21 S Dudley Father Benjamin Guest Nailer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; C Beard X / S Bannister X

Typo error on name but now correct they all used their marks to sign :wink:
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Re: Garratt/ Bannister/Guest puzzle

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rockyfowler wrote:
Jimmy wrote:Did Mary sign or make her mark on the cert,


No reply from poster so heres the full info Jimmy

21 Feb 1865 St James
Alfred GUEST 19 B Labourer Dudley Father Thomas Garratt Labourer
Mary BANNISTER 21 S Dudley Father Benjamin Guest Nailer
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; C Beard X / S Bannister X

Sorry, must have missed Jimmys question.

Shouldn't that be Alfred GARRATT?
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Re: Garratt/ Bannister/Guest puzzle

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need to go thru this and sort out connections

thanks all will sticky
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