Rich-Oakley Can this be added please. Jo Adding
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Rich-Oakley Can this be added please. Jo Adding
Could the following be added to B.C. connections please?
Marriage St John's Church Dudley 24th Dec 1899
William Henry Rich 24 bachelor fender fitter Dudley Father Edward Rich-Engine Driver
&
Elizabeth Oakley 23 spinster Dudley Father Thomas Oakley - Iron worker
Witnesses Isaac Bowater + Mary Bowater
Jac
Marriage St John's Church Dudley 24th Dec 1899
William Henry Rich 24 bachelor fender fitter Dudley Father Edward Rich-Engine Driver
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Elizabeth Oakley 23 spinster Dudley Father Thomas Oakley - Iron worker
Witnesses Isaac Bowater + Mary Bowater
Jac
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Re: Rich-Oakley Can this be added please
Where does this fit in on BCC and where is the information from?
I will add if you can give more information please.
Jo
I will add if you can give more information please.
Jo

Re: Rich-Oakley Can this be added please
Hello Jo
Sorry jumping the gun!!
Connected to Richard Rich c 1839 who wed Elizabeth Sibley at Dudley c 1862.
The following info concerns the Richard Rich above.
Bapt. Richard Rich 22 June 1837 -born 30 June 1836 Dudley St Thomas -Parents Richard + Ann
1841 cens.Dunn St. Dudley H0107/1196 folio6 page5
Richard Rich 41 miner no
Ann 30 no
Edward 8 y
RICH. 4 Y
Sarah 3 y
1851 32, Dunn St. Dudley RG9/2527 folio 41 page9
Ann Rich wid. 40 Tipton
Edward 18 Dudley
RICHARD 15 Dudley
Sarah 11 Dudley
Samuel Dudley
Jac
Sorry jumping the gun!!
Connected to Richard Rich c 1839 who wed Elizabeth Sibley at Dudley c 1862.
The following info concerns the Richard Rich above.
Bapt. Richard Rich 22 June 1837 -born 30 June 1836 Dudley St Thomas -Parents Richard + Ann
1841 cens.Dunn St. Dudley H0107/1196 folio6 page5
Richard Rich 41 miner no
Ann 30 no
Edward 8 y
RICH. 4 Y
Sarah 3 y
1851 32, Dunn St. Dudley RG9/2527 folio 41 page9
Ann Rich wid. 40 Tipton
Edward 18 Dudley
RICHARD 15 Dudley
Sarah 11 Dudley
Samuel Dudley
Jac
Re: Rich-Oakley Can this be added please
Sorry
1851 census should be.. H0107/2032 folio 305 page 17
1851 census should be.. H0107/2032 folio 305 page 17
Re: Rich-Oakley Can this be added please
Parents of Richard Rich c 1836
Marriage 3rd June 1827 St Thomas Dudley
Richard Rich + Ann Timmins
Witnesses James + Sarah Hickmans.
Possible Death of Father Richard Rich 1849 Dudley
2nd marriage for mother...Ann Rich + Edward Smith 1854 All Sts Sedgley (lost notes,, but recall Ann (widow) Father Isaac Timmins)
1861 census Tupton Derbyshire RG9/2527 folio 41 page 29
Edward Smith 36 c/miner Warks
Ann 44 Tipton
Rich Rich 23 c/miner Dudley
Jac
Marriage 3rd June 1827 St Thomas Dudley
Richard Rich + Ann Timmins
Witnesses James + Sarah Hickmans.
Possible Death of Father Richard Rich 1849 Dudley
2nd marriage for mother...Ann Rich + Edward Smith 1854 All Sts Sedgley (lost notes,, but recall Ann (widow) Father Isaac Timmins)
1861 census Tupton Derbyshire RG9/2527 folio 41 page 29
Edward Smith 36 c/miner Warks
Ann 44 Tipton
Rich Rich 23 c/miner Dudley
Jac
Re: Rich-Oakley Can this be added please
Again Sorry..Wrong details Rich-Smith marriage..must get my act together
Marriage Oct 2nd 1854 All Sts Sedgley
Edward Smith 31 bach. miner Shavers End Father Thomas Smith - miner
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Ann Rich 40 widow Shavers End Father Moses Timmins -labourer
Both signed with X
Witnesses Wlm + Elizabeth Pugh signed X
Jac
Marriage Oct 2nd 1854 All Sts Sedgley
Edward Smith 31 bach. miner Shavers End Father Thomas Smith - miner
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Ann Rich 40 widow Shavers End Father Moses Timmins -labourer
Both signed with X
Witnesses Wlm + Elizabeth Pugh signed X
Jac
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Re: Rich-Oakley Can this be added please
I am a bit lost on this...
Looking at it, the first marriage you put William Henry is son of Edward. Not Richard?
I will have to look through.
Jo

Looking at it, the first marriage you put William Henry is son of Edward. Not Richard?
I will have to look through.
Jo

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1901. 27 Fountain Street, Dudley.
William Rich, head, 26, Fender Fitter
Elizabeth, wife, 23,
William, son, 1,
All born Dudley
1911. 7 Red Hill, Dudley
William Henry Rich, head, 36, Fender Fitter,
Elizabeth Rich, wife, married 11 years, 7 children, 6 living,
William Thomas Oakley, son, 11,
Sarah Ann Rich, daur, 9,
Mary Elizabeth Rich, daur, 7,
Edward Rich, son, 5,
Clara Rich, daur, 3,
Percy Rich, 8 months,
Edward Rich, Father, 77, Old age Pensioner (formerly engine driver in fender works)
All born Dudley
William Rich, head, 26, Fender Fitter
Elizabeth, wife, 23,
William, son, 1,
All born Dudley
1911. 7 Red Hill, Dudley
William Henry Rich, head, 36, Fender Fitter,
Elizabeth Rich, wife, married 11 years, 7 children, 6 living,
William Thomas Oakley, son, 11,
Sarah Ann Rich, daur, 9,
Mary Elizabeth Rich, daur, 7,
Edward Rich, son, 5,
Clara Rich, daur, 3,
Percy Rich, 8 months,
Edward Rich, Father, 77, Old age Pensioner (formerly engine driver in fender works)
All born Dudley
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1841. Dunn Street, Dudley.
Richard Rich, 41, Miner, Not born in County
Ann, 38, Not born in County
Edward, 8,
Richard, 4
Sarah, 3
All others born in County
1851. 32 Dunn Street, Dudley.
Ann Rich, head, W, 40, Tipton
Edward Rich, son, 18, miner,
Richard Rich, 15, miner,
Sarah Rich, daur, 11 nurse,
Samuel Rich, son, 7,
James Pain, lodger, 27, Miner, Paulton, Sommerset
Harriett Pain, wife, 30, Bilston
All others born Dudley
1861. Dunn Street, Dudley
Edward Rich, head, 28, Stone miner,
Mary, wife, 25, Kingsland, Herefordshire
Emma, daur, 1 month,
Samuel, Brother, 17, stone miner
All others born Dudley
1871. 21, Fountain St, Dudley.
Edward Rich, head, 37, Stone Miner,
Mary, wife, 35, Aston Radnorshire
Emma, daur, 10,
Edward, son, 7,
John, son, 5,
Sarah A, daur, 2
All others born Dudley
1881. 28a Fountain St, Dudley
Edward Rich, head, 48, Labourer in a factory
Mary, wife, 46, Kington, Herefordshire
Emma, daur, 20, no occupation,
Edward, son, 18, Whitesmith
Sarah A, daur, 12,
William H, son, 6,
Elizabeth, daur, 3,
1891. 16, John St, Dudley.
Edward Rich, head, 59, Labourer,
Mary, wife, 57, Preston Lancshire
William H, son, 16, Fender Fitter,
Elizabeth, daur, 14,
All others born Dudley
1901. 11 John Street, Dudley
Edward Rich, head, W, 66, Stationary Engine Driver,
Elizabeth daur, 2,
Sarah Turner, Aunt, W, 66
All born Dudley
Richard Rich, 41, Miner, Not born in County
Ann, 38, Not born in County
Edward, 8,
Richard, 4
Sarah, 3
All others born in County
1851. 32 Dunn Street, Dudley.
Ann Rich, head, W, 40, Tipton
Edward Rich, son, 18, miner,
Richard Rich, 15, miner,
Sarah Rich, daur, 11 nurse,
Samuel Rich, son, 7,
James Pain, lodger, 27, Miner, Paulton, Sommerset
Harriett Pain, wife, 30, Bilston
All others born Dudley
1861. Dunn Street, Dudley
Edward Rich, head, 28, Stone miner,
Mary, wife, 25, Kingsland, Herefordshire
Emma, daur, 1 month,
Samuel, Brother, 17, stone miner
All others born Dudley
1871. 21, Fountain St, Dudley.
Edward Rich, head, 37, Stone Miner,
Mary, wife, 35, Aston Radnorshire
Emma, daur, 10,
Edward, son, 7,
John, son, 5,
Sarah A, daur, 2
All others born Dudley
1881. 28a Fountain St, Dudley
Edward Rich, head, 48, Labourer in a factory
Mary, wife, 46, Kington, Herefordshire
Emma, daur, 20, no occupation,
Edward, son, 18, Whitesmith
Sarah A, daur, 12,
William H, son, 6,
Elizabeth, daur, 3,
1891. 16, John St, Dudley.
Edward Rich, head, 59, Labourer,
Mary, wife, 57, Preston Lancshire
William H, son, 16, Fender Fitter,
Elizabeth, daur, 14,
All others born Dudley
1901. 11 John Street, Dudley
Edward Rich, head, W, 66, Stationary Engine Driver,
Elizabeth daur, 2,
Sarah Turner, Aunt, W, 66
All born Dudley
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Re: Rich-Oakley Can this be added please
I have added here...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =600873299
I haven't added any marriages in yet. Where did you get the info from for the marriages?
Jo
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =600873299
I haven't added any marriages in yet. Where did you get the info from for the marriages?
Jo

Re: Rich-Oakley Can this be added please. Jo Adding
Jo
Re Marriages- Rich-Timmins 1827 from parish registers
Rich/Smith 1854 .... ....... ....
Rich/Oakley 1899 .... marr. cert.
Re Edward Rich 1833
Marriage St Andrews Netherton 24 Oct. 1853
Edward Rich 20 bach. miner Father Richard Rich dec.
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Mary Turner 18 spinster Father William Turner dec.
Witnesses George & Mary Ann Nix.
From parish registers.
Birth certificate. Emma Rich 17th March 1861 Dunn St. Dudley Father Edward Rich-whitestone miner Mother Mary Rich formerly Turner
Thank you & thanks also to Graingers for adding the census info.
Jac
Re Marriages- Rich-Timmins 1827 from parish registers
Rich/Smith 1854 .... ....... ....
Rich/Oakley 1899 .... marr. cert.
Re Edward Rich 1833
Marriage St Andrews Netherton 24 Oct. 1853
Edward Rich 20 bach. miner Father Richard Rich dec.
&
Mary Turner 18 spinster Father William Turner dec.
Witnesses George & Mary Ann Nix.
From parish registers.
Birth certificate. Emma Rich 17th March 1861 Dunn St. Dudley Father Edward Rich-whitestone miner Mother Mary Rich formerly Turner
Thank you & thanks also to Graingers for adding the census info.
Jac
Re: Rich-Oakley Can this be added please. Jo Adding
Re Emma Rich 1861
Possible marriage Emma Rich + Benjamin Jones 1883 St Edmunds Dudley
1891 census living with parents Edw. + Mary Rich John St. Dudley RG12/2294 folio 86 page 7
Benjamin Jones 28 fender polisher Dudley
Emma 30 ....
Sarah 7 .....
Hannah 5 ....
Jac
Possible marriage Emma Rich + Benjamin Jones 1883 St Edmunds Dudley
1891 census living with parents Edw. + Mary Rich John St. Dudley RG12/2294 folio 86 page 7
Benjamin Jones 28 fender polisher Dudley
Emma 30 ....
Sarah 7 .....
Hannah 5 ....
Jac
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Marriage 3rd June 1827 St Thomas Dudley
Richard Rich + Ann Timmins
Witnesses James + Sarah Hickmans.
Marriage Oct 2nd 1854 All Sts Sedgley
Edward Smith 31 bach. miner Shavers End Father Thomas Smith - miner
Ann Rich 40 widow Shavers End Father Moses Timmins -labourer
Both signed with X
Witnesses Wlm + Elizabeth Pugh signed X
Ann's age changes quite a lot on census... Second marriage Moses is her father, is this Moses here?? Ann's age out again??
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=51992002
Witnesses to the her first marriage is James and Sarah Hickmans
Possible marriage from Freereg
3rd November 1822. All Saints, Sedgley.
James Hickmans, B, Sedgley
Sarah Timmings, S, Sedgley
Witnesses, Joseph Hickmans, John Newton
Confused!
Jo

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jac wrote:Re Emma Rich 1861
Possible marriage Emma Rich + Benjamin Jones 1883 St Edmunds Dudley
1891 census living with parents Edw. + Mary Rich John St. Dudley RG12/2294 folio 86 page 7
Benjamin Jones 28 fender polisher Dudley
Emma 30 ....
Sarah 7 .....
Hannah 5 ....
Jac
If you put that marriage in look ups Jac please then we can take it from there.
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Re: Rich-Oakley Can this be added please. Jo Adding
While you are waiting the full look up,
Ancestry,
Marriage Date: 5 Nov 1883.
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcestershire.
Benjamin Jones, Single. 23. Father: Benjamin Jones.
Emma Rich. Single. 23. Father: Edward Rich.
FHL Film Number: 992183.
Reference ID: Yr1883 P 216 No 432.
Ancestry,
Marriage Date: 5 Nov 1883.
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcestershire.
Benjamin Jones, Single. 23. Father: Benjamin Jones.
Emma Rich. Single. 23. Father: Edward Rich.
FHL Film Number: 992183.
Reference ID: Yr1883 P 216 No 432.