ARC TBC bills family
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Re: bills family
According to US Census of 1900 he arrived in 1881. He bece citizen in 1893. I found a Benjamin Billo entering US on March 28 1881..age 8 on the ship Arizonia. I think the o was a typo and that's him. Can't find when Henry his father came over ...but it must have been earlier as I don't see him on the ship with Eliza. All of their children(males) worked in the steel mills here as chainmakers including Benjamin.
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Re: bills family
Jimmy wrote:Jimmy wrote:Ancestry,
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975.
Name: Emma Withington.
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 19 Jul 1871.
Baptism Place: St. Peters, West Bromwich, Stafford, England.
Mother: Eliza Withington.
FHL Film Number: 1526218.
Reference ID: item 8 p 134.
There is also on the same day,
Benjamin John Joseph Withington.
Gender: Male.
Baptism Date: 19 Jul 1871.
Baptism Place: Saint Peter, West Bromwich, Stafford, England.
Mother: Eliza Withington.
FHL Film Number: 1526218.
????
Births Jun 1871.
WITHINGTON Benjamin Joseph H. Dudley. 6c. 42.
It would be good to get to see the full details on these 2.
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Re: bills family
Do you how I can find out more information on these 2 baptisms?I am pretty sure that is another part of the family...but no clue where they were living in the 1971 census that I can find. Thank you so much for all the information you were able to track down so far it has been wonderful. Hope your computer is back and running without too much aggravation.
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Re: bills family
I think the only way would be to contact the local libary and explain what you are after
http://www.sandwell.gov.uk/info/200261/ ... t_bromwich
because you live along way away they might check the appropriate parish records for you.
http://www.sandwell.gov.uk/info/200261/ ... t_bromwich
because you live along way away they might check the appropriate parish records for you.
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Re: bills family
Thereis a little more detail on these, Horseley Heath is Tipton area of the Black Country.
From Freereg,
Search Record Details.
County Staffordshire.
Place West Bromwich.
Church St Peter.
RegisterNumber 1068.
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 19 Jul 1871.
Forename Emma.
Sex F.
FatherForename ?
MotherForename Eliza
FatherSurname ?
MotherSurname WITHINGTON.
Abode Horseley Heath.
FatherOccupation ?
Notes Fathers name and occupation not given.
FileNumber 15950.
Search Record Details.
County Staffordshire.
Place West Bromwich.
Church St Peter.
RegisterNumber 1069.
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 19 Jul 1871.
Forename Benjamin John Joseph
Sex M
FatherForename ?
MotherForename Eliza
FatherSurname ?
MotherSurname WITHINGTON.
Abode Horseley Heath
FatherOccupation ?
Notes Fathers name and occupation not given.
FileNumber 15950.
From Freereg,
Search Record Details.
County Staffordshire.
Place West Bromwich.
Church St Peter.
RegisterNumber 1068.
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 19 Jul 1871.
Forename Emma.
Sex F.
FatherForename ?
MotherForename Eliza
FatherSurname ?
MotherSurname WITHINGTON.
Abode Horseley Heath.
FatherOccupation ?
Notes Fathers name and occupation not given.
FileNumber 15950.
Search Record Details.
County Staffordshire.
Place West Bromwich.
Church St Peter.
RegisterNumber 1069.
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 19 Jul 1871.
Forename Benjamin John Joseph
Sex M
FatherForename ?
MotherForename Eliza
FatherSurname ?
MotherSurname WITHINGTON.
Abode Horseley Heath
FatherOccupation ?
Notes Fathers name and occupation not given.
FileNumber 15950.
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Re: bills family
Jimmy wrote:Jimmy wrote:Jimmy wrote:Ancestry,
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975.
Name: Emma Withington.
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 19 Jul 1871.
Baptism Place: St. Peters, West Bromwich, Stafford, England.
Mother: Eliza Withington.
FHL Film Number: 1526218.
Reference ID: item 8 p 134.
There is also on the same day,
Benjamin John Joseph Withington.
Gender: Male.
Baptism Date: 19 Jul 1871.
Baptism Place: Saint Peter, West Bromwich, Stafford, England.
Mother: Eliza Withington.
FHL Film Number: 1526218.
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It would be good to get to see the full details on these 2.
on find my past index just a dash where father should be
A person should have an opinion on everything, It becomes tact whether you reveal that opinion or not.
http://www.deneview.co.uk/
http://www.deneview.co.uk/
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Re: bills family
Thanks for the suggestion . I sent out email asking if they could help just now...gave them the info that you had discovered. So let's hope they can find something out. We let you know,but in the mean time I'll keep hunting...although obviously not as "good a shot" as you are!!! Thanks again for the recent find about her abode of Horseley Heath..have to see if Cradley where Henry Bills is from is near there.
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Re: bills family
Ita about 5 mile From Cradley to Horseley Heath.
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Re: bills family
Thanks Jimmy you are a genius.. .
Haven't heard anything from library...and still can't find her in census in Horseley Heath will keep searching. Thanks for info on distance makes everything very feasible. Have a good day.
Haven't heard anything from library...and still can't find her in census in Horseley Heath will keep searching. Thanks for info on distance makes everything very feasible. Have a good day.
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Re: bills family
Just a thought how old was Eliza when she died. ?
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Re: bills family
Poss,
1861. Droylsden, Lancashire.
Elizabth Withington 38. Widow. Stockport, Cheshire.
Emma Withington 19.
Priscilla Withington 18.
William Withington 13.
Eliza Withington 11.
Mary Ann Withington 7.
Alice Withington 3.
Livinia Withington 10/12.
Others born Droylsden, Lancashire.
And in 1851 there is a father John,
1851.
John Withington 32. Can't make out occupation.
Betsey Withington 38. Stockport, Cheshire.
Emma Withington 9. Dau.
Pressley Withington 8. Dau.
William Withington 3. Son.
Lyson Withington 1. Dau.
All others born Droylsden, Lancashire.
Births Dec 1849.
WITHINGTON Eliza. Ashton. 20. 35.
Eliza with grand parents in 1851.
Northington is Withington on image.
1851. Church Inn, Droylsden, Lancashire.
Luke Renshaw 43. Landlord church inn. Denton, Lancashire.
Betty Renshaw 40. Gorton, Lancashire.
Sarah Renshaw 17. Dau. Gorton, Lancashire.
Annie Renshaw 15. Dau. Gorton, Lancashire.
Harriett Renshaw 11. Dau. Gorton, Lancashire.
Emma Renshaw 8. Dau. Gorton, Lancashire.
Eliza Renshaw 4. Dau. Gorton, Lancashire.
Luke Renshaw 1. Son. Droylsden, Lancashire.
John Northington 15. . Son. Droylsden, Lancashire.
Mary Ann Northington 10. Dau. Droylsden, Lancashire.
Eliza Northington 3 Months. Grand dau. Droylsden, Lancashire.
Luke Renshaw
England, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Parish Registers
Name: Luke Renshaw
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Aug 1831
Event Place: St John, Deansgate, Lancashire, England
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Bradley
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Digital Folder Number: 004500791 , Image Number: 00084
1871. Droylsden, Lancashire.
Elizabeth Withington 48. Widow. Stockport, Cheshire.
Mary Ann Withington 17. Dau. Droylsden, Lancashire.
Alice Withington 13. Droylsden, Lancashire.
John W Walker 4. Relative. Manchester, Lancashire.
1861. Droylsden, Lancashire.
Elizabth Withington 38. Widow. Stockport, Cheshire.
Emma Withington 19.
Priscilla Withington 18.
William Withington 13.
Eliza Withington 11.
Mary Ann Withington 7.
Alice Withington 3.
Livinia Withington 10/12.
Others born Droylsden, Lancashire.
And in 1851 there is a father John,
1851.
John Withington 32. Can't make out occupation.
Betsey Withington 38. Stockport, Cheshire.
Emma Withington 9. Dau.
Pressley Withington 8. Dau.
William Withington 3. Son.
Lyson Withington 1. Dau.
All others born Droylsden, Lancashire.
Births Dec 1849.
WITHINGTON Eliza. Ashton. 20. 35.
Eliza with grand parents in 1851.
Northington is Withington on image.
1851. Church Inn, Droylsden, Lancashire.
Luke Renshaw 43. Landlord church inn. Denton, Lancashire.
Betty Renshaw 40. Gorton, Lancashire.
Sarah Renshaw 17. Dau. Gorton, Lancashire.
Annie Renshaw 15. Dau. Gorton, Lancashire.
Harriett Renshaw 11. Dau. Gorton, Lancashire.
Emma Renshaw 8. Dau. Gorton, Lancashire.
Eliza Renshaw 4. Dau. Gorton, Lancashire.
Luke Renshaw 1. Son. Droylsden, Lancashire.
John Northington 15. . Son. Droylsden, Lancashire.
Mary Ann Northington 10. Dau. Droylsden, Lancashire.
Eliza Northington 3 Months. Grand dau. Droylsden, Lancashire.
Luke Renshaw
England, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Parish Registers
Name: Luke Renshaw
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Aug 1831
Event Place: St John, Deansgate, Lancashire, England
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Bradley
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Digital Folder Number: 004500791 , Image Number: 00084
1871. Droylsden, Lancashire.
Elizabeth Withington 48. Widow. Stockport, Cheshire.
Mary Ann Withington 17. Dau. Droylsden, Lancashire.
Alice Withington 13. Droylsden, Lancashire.
John W Walker 4. Relative. Manchester, Lancashire.
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Re: bills family
Jimmy...its been a long time since I was able to get back to you....summer traveling...but I wanted to thank you so much for all your help and suggestions for research...I did contact the library as you suggested and they confirmed as best they could what you had discovered about my Eliza in Horsely Heath as being the wife of Henry Bills and the mother of Emma. Unfortunately, Henry murdered Eliza in 1905 in a drunken rage...he died in 1908. I haven't found out in if he ever spent time on jail for her murder or got off claiming it was an accident...still looking for that over here in the states...but you are my hero for all that you were able to discover and I thank you again for your time,dedication and interest in helping others.
Hope you had a wonderful summer and will continue to a great year!
Cathy Lee
Hope you had a wonderful summer and will continue to a great year!
Cathy Lee
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Re: bills family
Happy hunting Cathy.
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Re: bills family
He is good isn't he Cathy
cathy let me know if you would like your username added to Henry Bills I can slot that in on Bcc

cathy let me know if you would like your username added to Henry Bills I can slot that in on Bcc

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Re: bills family
Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?
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