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Frances Bate ?

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This Frances Bate who married Isaac Crew
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =940260382

I think was married before to a Thomas Bate and therefore should be noted as Frances Unknown
I have added a lot of Census details and her daughter Mary Bate is with her from 1841 to 1871

this I think is Mary,Thomas and Frances :-

Mary Ann Bate christened 1/8/1813 St. Thomas Dudley father Thomas Bate and mother Frances Bate
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Re: Frances Bate ?

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Change it Mumbles would you and add a note with what you think

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Re: Frances Bate ?

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The marriage says Spin??

14th December 1817. St Johns, Halesowen.
Issac Crew otp Bach
Frances Bate otp Spin
Both made X
Witnesses John Roper and Richard Fiddian
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Re: Frances Bate ?

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Is there any marriage for a Thomas Bate and frances?

if not then maybe we leave as Frances Bate

what you think Jo?
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Re: Frances Bate ?

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? I dont know really just trying to check some more there is this Indexed IGI see if I can see more on it

25th June 1810. Kingswinford
Thomas Bate and Frances Roper
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Re: Frances Bate ?

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24th June 1810. St Mary, Kingswinford
Thomas Bate otp
Frances Roper otp
By Banns
Witnesses, John Roper and Thos Walker.

Mine says 24th June. But that would make her around 14 when she married, I know not impossible...
I dont know. She could have been born out of wedlock and also the marriage could be wrong...
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Hmmm .....

I have added in marriage in notes


If this is her dau...bpt
Mary Ann Bate christened 1/8/1813 St. Thomas Dudley father Thomas Bate and mother Frances Bate

what does her dau put on marriage for father?

adding in that mary dau. on bcc.
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Re: Frances Bate ?

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Amended and added a note on her notes whilst we sort


I sort of think it is a made up name on the bapt of mary ann

do we have her marriage?

and we could send for the certif of one of frances kids birth
is there one someone can post to send for.
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Re: Frances Bate ?

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1851 -age 59 b 1792

1861 age 66 b 1795

1871 age 79 b 1792

poss death 1877 Dec qtr aged 88 Frances crew
so b 1789
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Re: Frances Bate ?

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I was just looking again...Look at the witness to her marriage to Isaac... A witness John Roper. That was the maiden name of Frances who married Thomas Bates!

Doesnt seem Mary Bates married...
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grangers14 wrote:I was just looking again...Look at the witness to her marriage to Isaac... A witness John Roper. That was the maiden name of Frances who married Thomas Bates!

Doesnt seem Mary Bates married...


Oh well spotted Jo I missed that

so does seem like she marries a Thomas Bates then

and spinster is an error
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I feel it is a possible. Seems much of a coincidence same witmess...
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Re: Frances Bate ?

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agree can you add in as Roper pls and the marriage info Jo then we can arc. this :wink:
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Re: Frances Bate ?

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Done...
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =628322941
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