ARC TBC Dissapearence? RESOLVED

[SteveT]

I'm trying to request a certificate on line, however it's asking for the date of marriage and all I have is December 1902. Anyone have a suggestion?

Steve

[Northern Lass]

I'm trying to request a certificate on line, however it's asking for the date of marriage and all I have is December 1902. Anyone have a suggestion?

Steve

Ok which site are you using GRo?

if so you need this link
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

go to order online and you need a volume and page no from this link
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

you need district

and the year

so on the free bmd link it says.

December Qtr
1902
Vol 6c
page 168

Names Mark Tolley
Sarah Brookes

Think that is all you need if you go via GRo just click on the order online think you have to login with an account.cost £9.25

The other way to order is via dudley council
here
https://dudley.firmstep.com/default.asp ... &HideAll=1

and then the link here...which has the Dudley council regis numbers at the end
1902 BROOKES Sarah TOLLEY Mark Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) Sandwell Register Office 39/17/221

and date should be enough along with names
just follow the prompts online

also I think you could ring up Smethwick archives and they may send you a copy of the entry for £? can't remember if they do this still and
what the cost is but it used to be less than GRO

or you could pop into Smethwick and photocopy yourself for pence

the choice is yours

does that help?

[SteveT]

That's great NL, I was on the Sandwell Archives, I'll try the other routes tonight when I get home.

Steve

[Northern Lass]

That's great NL, I was on the Sandwell Archives, I'll try the other routes tonight when I get home.

Steve

If you are going down the archives route the last number in that dudley lot of 3 numbers is the actual entry number
so they can go straight to the church...st to the year and then find the entry number in the register ie entry no 221.

do let us know will you what certif says when you get it
and would you like me to put that you connect on Sarah on Bcc

[SteveT]

I ordered the certificate today, had to go to the GRO as I couldn't pay at Dudley; I don't think their system works at the weekend. I will post the info when it arrives.

Steve

[Northern Lass]

I ordered the certificate today, had to go to the GRO as I couldn't pay at Dudley; I don't think their system works at the weekend. I will post the info when it arrives.

Steve

Thanks will look forward to that

[SteveT]

The ordered marriage certificate has arrived, Sarah's father was as mentioned earlier Thomas Brooker who, at the time of the wedding (25/12/1902) was deceased. He was recorded as an "ironworker" on the certificate, what did come as surprise to me was my GGGrandfather was listed as a "Boatman". I'm guessing this was a canal boatman due to the location of their house. I say house as there is no address for my GGrandfather just Horsley Heath, Sarah lived in Ballfields which is where Ilived when I was born although at a different house.

Steve

[Northern Lass]

Hi Steve could you post the full info on the mar. and I can add to Bcc pls.

also did you want your username adding in notes on Bcc?

[SteveT]

The details from the certificate are:

1902 Marriage Solomnized at Parish Church in the Parish of Tipton in the County of Stafford.

Date: 25th December 1902

Mark Tolley age 29 Bachelor Boatman Horsley Heath
Sarah Brookes age 26 Spinster 32 Ball Fields Horsley Heath

Fathers:

William Tolley Railway Servent (Deceased) -- In my excitement in the original post I said it was Thomas who was deceased, apologies for this.

Thomas Brookes Ironworker


The witnesses were Charles Thomas Lloyd and Harriet Rogers


As far as adding my user name in the notes, please do, I'm proud of my Black Country heritage.

Steve

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Steve have added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =217609539

So do you have the info on Marks parents?,...or need help with that?

or on Sarahs.....looks like sarahs are Thomas and Eliza
do you have that marriage info or need help with that?

[SteveT]

As far as I can make out, Marks Father (William) was born abt 1822 in Upton Warren, I'm unsure as to his mother as so far I've only managed to narrow it down to one of three possible women; I have a feeling at this point that William was actually married three times.

Steve

[Jimmy]

1881. Eagle Passage Court No 3, Tipton.
William Tolley 59. General Labourer, Tipton.
Mary Tolley 44.
Benj. Tolley 11.
Mark Tolley 9.

All born Tipton.

[rockyfowler]

30 Oct 1854 St Martin Tipton
William TOLLEY 32 W Labourer Great Bridge Father William Tolley Shoe Maker
Elizabeth Hollies 33 S Great Bridge Father William Hollies Blacksmith
After Banns William Signed The X Of Elizabeth
Wit; John Shorthouse / Louisa Foster X

[Jimmy]

1871, Tipton.
William Tolley 48. Railway labourer. Upton.
Emma Hollis 27. Daughter-in-law. unmarried.
Ellen L Tilley 15. Dau.
Sarah L Tilley 13. Dau.
William Tilley 9. Son.
Benjn Hollis 1. Relation: Nk.

Others born Tipton.

Did he marry his daughter in law.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1875.
TOLLEY William. HOLLIS Emma. Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box). Sandwell Register Office. 39/13/64.

[Jimmy]

1861. Eagle Lane, Tipton.
William Tolley 39. Labourer. Upton Warren, Worcs.
Elizabeth Tolley 39.
Benjamin Hollis 12. Son.
Dina Tolley 13. Dau. Stoke, Worcs
Lousia Tolley 5. Dau.
Sarah L Tolley 4 Dau.
Allice Tolley 8/12. Dau.

Others born Tipton.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1854.
TOLLEY William. HOLLIES Elizabeth. Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box). Sandwell Register Office. 39/7/358.