Lucy Woodall recording--

[gardener]

Just came across this

https://soundcloud.com/the-british-libr ... s-a-masher

[mallosa]

She sounds so lovely Gardener! Are you related in any way?

[gardener]

Not that I know of. I was looking for a different podcast but saw the title of that one. I wish that the recording had continued longer. Perhaps there is more somewhere else.

[mallosa]

If you look at the left hand side, click on 'Related Items' ( there are 4) she carries on talking on the first two and quite in depth on the second


http://sounds.bl.uk/World-and-tradition ... 0XX-0100V0

[Northern Lass]

Wonder if we have her on Bcc

is woodall her married name?

[mallosa]

I've been looking to see if I can find further information and thought of contacting Roy Palmer who recorded Lucy at the time but sadly he died last February

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/mar/10/roy-palmer

[Jimmy]

http://www.veteran.co.uk/vtc6cd.htm

http://www.veteran.co.uk/vtc6cd_words.h ... %99s%20Lad

(recorded at Warley, Worcestershire by Mike Yates, c.1976) Lucy Woodall and her fellow female chain-makers used to sing this song in the chain-making shops, where they worked. The song may have been a local composition, or it could have been an adaptation of another song that was originally unconnected to the chain-making trade. The song probably dates from the end of the 19th century. Eric Partridge dates the term masher, meaning a lady-killer, to 1882-83 (’Dictionary of Slang and Unconventional English’. London, 2002 edition. p.725)..

[Jimmy]

Poss,

Lucy Woodall.
Birth Date: 21 Nov 1899.
Date of Registration: Dec 1979.
Age at Death: 80.
Registration district: Dudley.
Inferred County: West Midlands.
Volume: 33.
Page: 0469.

Lucy Woodall.
Birth Date: 17 Nov 1916.
Date of Registration: May 1995.
Age at Death: 78.
Registration district: Dudley.
Inferred County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire.
Register Number: A33F.
District and Subdistrict: 0651A.
Entry Number: 208.

[Jimmy]

Ancestry,

Marriage Index, 1916-2005.


Name: Lucy Swingler.
Spouse John T Woodall.
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1927.
Registration district: Dudley.
Inferred County: Staffordshire.
Volume Number: 6b.
Page Number: 2122.
Find Spouse: Find Spouse.

Name: Lucy Fowkes.
Spouse James Woodall.
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1940.
Registration district: Dudley.
Inferred County: Staffordshire.
Volume Number: 6c.
Page Number: 67.

[Jimmy]

Says she was about 1900.

http://blackcountryhistory.org/collecti ... _PHS_1543/

[Jimmy]

1911. 5 Clyde St, Old Hill, Staffs.
James Swingler 40. stocker In Tube Fittings. Iron tube works.
Jane Swingler 43.
William Swingler 13. Son.
Lucy Swingler 11. Dau.
Elsie Swingler 6. Dau.
Alfred Swingler 4. Son.
Beatrice Swingler 1. Dau.

Married 14 years, 5 children.

All born Rowley Regis.


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1897.
SWINGLER James. BROMLEY Jane. Rowley Regis, St Giles. Sandwell Register Office. 18/9/70.

[Jimmy]

1881. 63 Club Building, Rowley Regis.
William Swingler 46. Chain maker. Leicestershire.
Mary Ann Swingler 46.
Mary Ann Swingler 19. Tipton. Dau.
George Swingler 16. Son.
John Swingler 13. Son.
James Swingher 10. Son.
Ann Maria Swingher 1 month. Dau.

Others born Rowley Regis.

1871. Club Building, Rowley Regis.
William Swindler 37. Labourer at forge. Lovemaw, Lancashire.
Mary A Swindler 34. Lovemaw, Lancashire.
Mary A Swindler 9. Tipton.
George Swindler 6. Rowley Regis.
James Swindler 1. Rowley Regis.

1861.
William Swingler 26. Labourer. Lubenham, Leicestershire.
Mary Ann Swingler 20.Trewesbury, ShropshireChain maker.

Poss,

FreeReg,

Worcestershire.
Place Dudley.
Church name St Thomas.
Register entry number 249.
Marriage date 04 Jul 1858.
Groom forename William
Groom surname SWINGLER.
Groom age full age.
Groom condition bachelor.
Groom abode Dudley.
Groom occupation Brickmaker.
Bride forename Mary Ann
Bride surname WALTER.
Bride age full age.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride abode Dudley.
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname SWINGLER.
Groom father occupation Brickmaker.
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname WALTER.
Bride father occupation Nailer (deceased).
Witness1 forename George
Witness1 surname SWINGLER.
Witness2 forename Ann
Witness2 surname SWINGLER.
Notes By Banns-Groom Bride & witnesses marked X.

[gardener]

If you look at the left hand side, click on 'Related Items' ( there are 4) she carries on talking on the first two and quite in depth on the second


http://sounds.bl.uk/World-and-tradition ... 0XX-0100V0

Thanks Mal. I will look at that later

[gardener]

http://blackcountryhistory.org/collecti ... _PHS_1544/

has a photo of her.

I think that her retirement was covered on the BBC Midlands Today or Nationwide or something, because I remember seeing something about a female chainmaker and my grandfather told me that his grandmother was one - which was news to me as he spoke little of his past.

[rockyfowler]

2 Aug 1897 St Giles Rowley regis
James SWINGLER 27 B Socket Maker Cradley Heath Father William Swingler Vetennery Surgeon
Jane BROMLEY 30 S Old Hill Father John Bromley (Dec) Watchman
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; John Swingler / Elizabeth Bromley

6 Jun 1927 Holy Trinity Old Hill
John Thomas WOODALL 30 B Miner 46 Wagon St Father William Woodall Miner
Lucy SWINGLER 27 S 50 High St Father James Swingler (Dec) Fitting Striker
Wit; Alfred Swingler / Kate Walker