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"Complete"Phoebe Unknown

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Phoebe married this William Smith c 1870 to 1874

http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =268958306

Age varies on Census from born 1851 to 1853 to 1854 to 1856 so difficult to tie down
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West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1873.
SMITH William. TILLEY Phoebe. Dudley, St Andrew. Dudley Register Office. 205/005/242.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1874.
SMITH * William. J ALLEN Phoebe. Dudley, St James. Dudley Register Office. 202/007/155.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1874.
SMITH * William. J ALLEN Phebe. Dudley, St James. Dudley Register Office. 202/007/155.
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Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1873.
SMITH William. TILLEY Phoebe. Dudley, St Andrew. Dudley Register Office. 205/005/242.


Place Dudley Staffs.
Church name St Andrew (Netherton).
Marriage date 02 Mar 1873.
Groom forename William
Groom surname SMITH.
Groom age Full age.
Groom condition bachelor.
Groom parish Netherton.
Groom occupation Miner.
Bride forename Phoebe
Bride surname TILLEY.
Bride age Full age.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride parish Netherton.
Groom father forename Joseph
Groom father surname SMITH.
Groom father occupation Nailer
Bride father forename Thomas
Bride father surname TILLEY.
Bride father occupation Spade Maker.
Witness1 forename Thomas
Witness1 surname WILLETTS.
Witness2 forename Elizabeth
Witness2 surname WILLETTS.
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Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1874.
SMITH * William. J ALLEN Phoebe. Dudley, St James. Dudley Register Office. 202/007/155.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1874.
SMITH * William. J ALLEN Phebe. Dudley, St James. Dudley Register Office. 202/007/155.


Name: William James Smith.
Birth Date: 1854.
Age: 20.
Spouse's Name: Phebe Allen.
Spouse's Birth Date: 1859.
Spouse's Age: 15.
Event Date: 17 May 1874.
Event Place: Dudley, Worcester, England.
Father's Name: Joseph Smith.
Spouse's Father's Name: Enock Allen.
Marital Status: Single.
Spouse's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01465-6 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1470600 , Reference ID: 155 p 78.
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Jimmy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1873.
SMITH William. TILLEY Phoebe. Dudley, St Andrew. Dudley Register Office. 205/005/242.


Place Dudley Staffs.
Church name St Andrew (Netherton).
Marriage date 02 Mar 1873.
Groom forename William
Groom surname SMITH.
Groom age Full age.
Groom condition bachelor.
Groom parish Netherton.
Groom occupation Miner.
Bride forename Phoebe
Bride surname TILLEY.
Bride age Full age.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride parish Netherton.
Groom father forename Joseph
Groom father surname SMITH.
Groom father occupation Nailer
Bride father forename Thomas
Bride father surname TILLEY.
Bride father occupation Spade Maker.
Witness1 forename Thomas
Witness1 surname WILLETTS.
Witness2 forename Elizabeth
Witness2 surname WILLETTS.


1861. Old Hill.
Thomas Tilley 52. Spade and shovel maker. Stourbridge.
Phebe Tilley 52.
William Tilley 24. Son.
George Tilley 18. Son.
Mary A Tilley 11. Dau.
Pheba Tilley 10. Dau.
William Haines 26. Son-in-law. Birmingham.
Sarah Haines 26. Dau.

Others born Rowley Regis.
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Jimmy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1874.
SMITH * William. J ALLEN Phoebe. Dudley, St James. Dudley Register Office. 202/007/155.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1874.
SMITH * William. J ALLEN Phebe. Dudley, St James. Dudley Register Office. 202/007/155.


Name: William James Smith.
Birth Date: 1854.
Age: 20.
Spouse's Name: Phebe Allen.
Spouse's Birth Date: 1859.
Spouse's Age: 15.
Event Date: 17 May 1874.
Event Place: Dudley, Worcester, England.
Father's Name: Joseph Smith.
Spouse's Father's Name: Enock Allen.
Marital Status: Single.
Spouse's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01465-6 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1470600 , Reference ID: 155 p 78.



1861. Innage, Sedgley.
Enoch Allen 30. Coal miner.
Sarah Jane Allen 31.
Eliza Allen 6. Dau.
Phoebe Allen 4. Dau.
All born Sedgley.
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1881. 12 Barrs St. Sedgley.
William Smith 25. Engineer at iron works. Brierley Hill.
Phoebe Smith 24.
Enoch J. Smith 4. Son.
Mary E. Smith 1. Dau.

Others born Sedgley.
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Jimmy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1874.
SMITH * William. J ALLEN Phoebe. Dudley, St James. Dudley Register Office. 202/007/155.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1874.
SMITH * William. J ALLEN Phebe. Dudley, St James. Dudley Register Office. 202/007/155.


Name: William James Smith.
Birth Date: 1854.
Age: 20.
Spouse's Name: Phebe Allen.
Spouse's Birth Date: 1859.
Spouse's Age: 15.
Event Date: 17 May 1874.
Event Place: Dudley, Worcester, England.
Father's Name: Joseph Smith.
Spouse's Father's Name: Enock Allen.
Marital Status: Single.
Spouse's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01465-6 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1470600 , Reference ID: 155 p 78.



1861. Innage, Sedgley.
Enoch Allen 30. Coal miner.
Sarah Jane Allen 31.
Eliza Allen 6. Dau.
Phoebe Allen 4. Dau.
All born Sedgley.


1871. New St, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Smith 62. Nailer.
Ann Smith 61.
John Smith 21. Son.
William Smith 19. Son.
Thomas Smith 17. Son.

All born Rowley Regis.
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West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1851.
ALLEN * Enoch. HALE Sarah J. Sedgley, All Saints. Dudley Register Office. 216/006/425.
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ThanksJimmy
It looks like the Tilley one is correct as Family from Rowley Regis and Allen one is Sedgley
Also 1873 marriage ties up with fact that first child born in 1873/4
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