ARC TBC Loines/loins/loyns/lines etc

[keefypops]

Hi, For many years I have been interested in researching this family. My family descend from a Joseph Loines who appears on the 1841 census as a nailmaker in Clent.
He was born to Elizabeth Lines who was unmarried at the time. The father was a Charles Boughton who was married to Elizabeth Lines her aunt. Both aunt and niece were initially Elizabeth Lines. When the aunt died he married the niece so eventually the Elizabeths became Boughton on marriage.
An old friend and distant relative was also interested until fairly recently and he set out the difficulties he was experiencing here . He was a far better at family history than I will ever be!
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=314542.0

Unfortunately (as stated on the site) he no longer does genealogy.
I thought I would try one last time to see if anyone could give a clue as to how to crack this one!
Thanks to grangers14 for encouraging me to put a request on this website.
Any help is appreciated.
keefypops

[peterd]

what about this one would be old enough to marry ? poss born 1784, 14 old enough to marry

ODM

Elizabeth Lines
Christening Date: 27 Feb 1785
Christening Place: KIDDERMINSTER,WORCESTER,

Father's Name: Edward Lines
Mother's Name: Elizabeth

as Edward got a sister called Elizabeth ?

[Northern Lass]

Got the Clent book so can check out that marriage in 1777 and add

started here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =313193443

[Northern Lass]

one of the wits on his first mar. is a Mary waldron
is there a marriage for a Mary Boughton or Booten or however spelt to a Waldron

[Jimmy]

1841. Clent.
Joseph Leines 40 Nailer.
Ann Leines 35
Charles Leines 15
Joseph Leines 9
Eliza Leines 7
Edward Leines 5
Thomas Leines 1

1851. Clent.
Joseph Louis 54. Nail maker.
Ann Louis 46. Pedmore, Worcs.
Sarah Louis 23. Dau.
Thomas Louis 11. Son.
Francis Louis 7. Son.
Benjamin Louis 1. Son.
Fredrick Louis 3. Grandson.
David Louis 8 Mo. Grandson.
Others born Clent.

Very bad image.

1861. Clent.
Ann Louise 55. Widow. Pedmore, Worcs.
Sarah Louise 33. Dau.
Thomas Louise 21. Son.
Frank Louise 17. Son.
Benjamin Louise 12. Son
David Louise 10. Grandson.

LOINES Joseph. Bromsgrove. 6c. 247.

Postems for this entry:
08/12/2012. 25 Jan 1853 Clent. Joseph Loines aged 55 a Nailor. Died of Asthma 2 weeks not certified. Informant: Ann Loines of Clent. Reg'd 25 Jan 1853.

[Jimmy]

one of the wits on his first mar. is a Mary waldron
is there a marriage for a Mary Boughton or Booten or however spelt to a Waldron

You did'nt say when,


Felix Waldron.
mentioned in the record of Felix Waldron and Mary Boughton.
Name: Felix Waldron.
Spouse's Name: Mary Boughton.
Event Date: 1772.
Event Place: Clent, Worcester, England.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M03517-2 , System Origin: England-VR , GS Film number: 1042160 , Reference ID: 2:R5Z9LG.

[grangers14]

one of the wits on his first mar. is a Mary waldron
is there a marriage for a Mary Boughton or Booten or however spelt to a Waldron

From Freereg
25th April 1772. St Leonard, Clent.
Felix Waldron B, Clent
Mary Boughton, S, Clent.
Witnesses, George Waldron, John Broughton
By Licence

[grangers14]

Freereg
Burial
6th February. St Leonard, Clent.
Elizabeth Boughton, aged 65, Clent

[grangers14]

Transcribed as Boughter
1841. Clent.
Elizabeth Boughton, 60, Not born in County
John Boughton, 30, Ag Lab,
Elizabeth, 25,
Thomas, 20, Bricklayer J
Others born in County

Living next door,
Charles Boughton, 25, Bricklayer J
Ann, 20. Not born in County
Martha, 5,
Samuel, 2
All others born in County

[grangers14]

?? Christenings from freereg

18th April 1806.St Leonard, Clent
Edward, M, born 25th March 1806, Parents, Charles Broughton and Elizabeth

4th September 1808. St Leonard, Clent
John, M, Parents Charles Broughton, Elizabeth

16th December 1810, St Leonard, Clent
Elizabeth, F, Parents, Charles Broughton and Elizabeth

19th April, 1813. St Leonard, Clent
Charles, M, Upper Clent, Parents, Charles Broughton, Publican and Elizabeth

17th September 1815. St Leonard, Clent
Thomas, M, Upper Clent, Parents, Charles Broughton, Publican and Elizabeth

30th August 1818. St Leonard, Clent
Sarah, F, Parents, Charles Broughton, Tailor and Elizabeth (I am not certain on this one)

[Jimmy]

Deaths Sep 1869.
Loynes Ann. 64. Bromsgrove. 6c. 236.

Postems for this entry:
08/12/2012. 07 Sep 1869 Clent. Ann Loynes aged 64 widow of Joseph Loynes a Nailor. Died of Heart Disease & Dropsy certified. Informant - Eliza Loynes of Clent. Reg'd 09 Sep 1869.

[grangers14]

Do we have dobs for the 3 illeg children?

born to Eliz lines the niece?

any bapts?

and the legit one bapt pls

Freereg

27th August 1797. St Leonard, Clent.
Joseph, M, Elizabeth Loyns, illegitimate

25th December 1802, St Leonards, Clent.
Martha, F, Elizabeth Loins, illegitimate

[keefypops]

Hi, May I say thanks for the input so far.
I have been up in the loft to find my notes taken from the Amplett manuscripts and the other records at WRO in the 1980's. These were his notes into the gravestones in St Leonards Clent. They are set below as I interpreted them.
Elizabeth (the aunt) Boughton nee Lines born circa 1745 married 24/10/1777 buried 19/6/1805 (aged 60)
Elizabeth (the niece) Boughton nee Lines born circa 1778 married 21/10/1805 died 2/2/1843 (aged 65) Second marriage shortly after the aunt died!

The three illegitimate children were born Joseph Loyns baptised 27/8/1797 (my ancestor)
Benjamin Loyns baptised 20/4/1799
Martha Loins baptised 25/12/1802
Joseph married Ann Harris in Halesowen on 1/5/1825.
Ann was apparently the first person to take a donkey with tourists onto the hills (?apochryphal)
I hope this helps.
Again I am pleased with the response thus far. You are very kind
K

[Northern Lass]

Keefypops got some queries ..

I have the Clent Book and the Burial date of the aunt Elizabeth is 21 June 1805 ...no age given

so where did the burial you have come from you have 19 june....and where did the age come from as no age in book.


also do you have the death certif for the niece Elizabeth who dies in 1843
again where is the age at death from? my book only goes up to 1837

do you have the burial entry from the archives for Eliz niece does it say her age in that at death?

also do you know if any of these have headstones at clent?
ie any of the family?

[peterd]

Info poss of headstones ?