Jan has added :- Isaac Priest marrying a Phoebe Unknown
http://www.bcconnections.tribalpages.co ... =365561577
1841 New Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Pheobe Priest 46 nail maker
Catherine Priest (should be Caroline age fits with dob of 1828) age 13
Richard Priest age 4
nk 14 wks!!
cant see her on 1851.
1861 Census Dog lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Watchhorne Head 38 Boat Loader
Louisa Watchorne Wife 29
next hsehold
Phebe Priest Head wid 69,
mother to Louisa?
Caroline Evans dau marr 33
Richard Evans son 3
Then I have found
Marriage St. John Halesowen 8/12/1862
Zachariah Baker 53 (wid) Bricklayer father Joshua Baker Bricklayer
Sarah Rock 47 (wid) Nailer father Isaac Priest Jews Harp Maker
Witnesses Joseph Smith and Louisa Watchorne
1871 Census Waggon Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Zachariah Baker Head 63 Bricklayer born Kingswinford Staffs.
Sarah Baker wife 57
Phoebe Priest mother.in.law (wid)
Isaac Rock grd.son 17 Coal Miner
James Griffin grd.son 14 Coal Miner
Selina Griffin grd.dau 4 Scholar
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.
and 1841 Census Garratts Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Rock 29 Nail Maker
Sarah Rock 26
Sophia Rock 6
Joseph Rock 2
Sabra Rock 8mths.
Louisa Priest 16 F.S.
All born Staffs.
"Complete"Rock,Watchorn,Priest Connections
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"Complete"Rock,Watchorn,Priest Connections
Last edited by mumbles on Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Jimmy
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Re: Rock,Watchorn,Priest Connections
From Freereg.
County Worcestershire,
Place Halesowen,
Church name St John the Baptist,
Register entry number 203.
Marriage date 4 Jun 1816.
Groom forename Isaac
Groom surname PRIEST.
Groom condition Bachelor.
Groom parish Otp.
Bride forename Phoebe
Bride surname STRINGER.
Bride condition Spinster.
Bride parish Otp.
Witness1 forename Samuel
Witness1 surname PRIEST.
Witness2 forename Mary
Witness2 surname PRIEST.
County Worcestershire,
Place Halesowen,
Church name St John the Baptist,
Register entry number 203.
Marriage date 4 Jun 1816.
Groom forename Isaac
Groom surname PRIEST.
Groom condition Bachelor.
Groom parish Otp.
Bride forename Phoebe
Bride surname STRINGER.
Bride condition Spinster.
Bride parish Otp.
Witness1 forename Samuel
Witness1 surname PRIEST.
Witness2 forename Mary
Witness2 surname PRIEST.
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Northern Lass
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Re: Rock,Watchorn,Priest Connections
looks good mumbles re the Rock to Baker marriage 
Re: Rock,Watchorn,Priest Connections
NL
found Watchorn family in 1851
1851 Census Beets Building Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Watchorn Head 28 Farm Day Labourer
Louisa Watchorn wife 27 Nail Forger
Thomas Priest visitor 8 Nail Forger
James Priest 22 Lodger 22 Miner
Note :- Thomas and James Priest are transcribed as Truert on Ancestry
Louisa married again to a James While
4/12/1871 St. Michael Brierley Hill
John While 41 (wid) father Richard While
Louisa Watchorn 48 (wid) father Isaac Priest
So if Isaac Priest is father of Louisa Priest it could be Isaac who married Phoebe Stringer but need full marriage to see what occupation was
Thomas Priest could be her son out of wedlock but who was James Priest ( possibly a brother)
found Watchorn family in 1851
1851 Census Beets Building Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Watchorn Head 28 Farm Day Labourer
Louisa Watchorn wife 27 Nail Forger
Thomas Priest visitor 8 Nail Forger
James Priest 22 Lodger 22 Miner
Note :- Thomas and James Priest are transcribed as Truert on Ancestry
Louisa married again to a James While
4/12/1871 St. Michael Brierley Hill
John While 41 (wid) father Richard While
Louisa Watchorn 48 (wid) father Isaac Priest
So if Isaac Priest is father of Louisa Priest it could be Isaac who married Phoebe Stringer but need full marriage to see what occupation was
Thomas Priest could be her son out of wedlock but who was James Priest ( possibly a brother)
Re: Rock,Watchorn,Priest Connections
1841 Census Old Hill Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Zeceriah Baker 25 Bricklayer
Elizabeth Baker 30 not born Staffs.
Sophia Baker 7
Joseph Baker 5
Rest born Staffs.
1851 Census Back of Garratts Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Zachariah Baker Head 42 (wid) Bricklayer Journeyman
Sophia Baker dau 19
Joseph Baker son 14 Bricklayer
All born Kingswinford Staffs.
1861 Census Garratts Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Zachariah Baker Head 52 (m) Bricklayer Journeyman
Joseph Baker son 28 (m) Stone Miner
Sophia S. Baker dau.in.law 18 dau.in.law born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Rest born Kingswinford Staffs.
Marriage St. Thomas Dudley Staffs. 27/3/1878
James Priest ( wid) Nail Trimmer Dudley father James Priest Nailer
Mary Ann Dutton (wid) Dudley father William Melley dec. Nailer
Witnesses Zachariah Baker and Elizabeth Baker
Zachariah went on to marry Sarah Rock (nee Priest) and her father was Isaac Priest
Zeceriah Baker 25 Bricklayer
Elizabeth Baker 30 not born Staffs.
Sophia Baker 7
Joseph Baker 5
Rest born Staffs.
1851 Census Back of Garratts Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Zachariah Baker Head 42 (wid) Bricklayer Journeyman
Sophia Baker dau 19
Joseph Baker son 14 Bricklayer
All born Kingswinford Staffs.
1861 Census Garratts Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Zachariah Baker Head 52 (m) Bricklayer Journeyman
Joseph Baker son 28 (m) Stone Miner
Sophia S. Baker dau.in.law 18 dau.in.law born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Rest born Kingswinford Staffs.
Marriage St. Thomas Dudley Staffs. 27/3/1878
James Priest ( wid) Nail Trimmer Dudley father James Priest Nailer
Mary Ann Dutton (wid) Dudley father William Melley dec. Nailer
Witnesses Zachariah Baker and Elizabeth Baker
Zachariah went on to marry Sarah Rock (nee Priest) and her father was Isaac Priest
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Re: Rock,Watchorn,Priest Connections
Jimmy wrote:From Freereg.
County Worcestershire,
Place Halesowen,
Church name St John the Baptist,
Register entry number 203.
Marriage date 4 Jun 1816.
Groom forename Isaac
Groom surname PRIEST.
Groom condition Bachelor.
Groom parish Otp.
Bride forename Phoebe
Bride surname STRINGER.
Bride condition Spinster.
Bride parish Otp.
Witness1 forename Samuel
Witness1 surname PRIEST.
Witness2 forename Mary
Witness2 surname PRIEST.
wont get occup before 1837 on marriage info mumbles
Re: Rock,Watchorn,Priest Connections
Wrong date on marriage noted above
Marriage St. Thomas Dudley Staffs. 27/3/1848
James Priest ( wid) Nail Trimmer Dudley father James Priest Nailer
Mary Ann Dutton (wid) Dudley father William Melley dec. Nailer
Witnesses Zachariah Baker and Elizabeth Baker
Rock/Baker/Priest Connections go further as
Selena Rock daughter of Joseph Rock and Sarah Priest married Joseph Baker son of Zachariah Baker who also married Sarah Priest
Almost missed this connection as marriage record on Halesowen Parish Records and Freereg has wrong surname ( Roch instead of Rock)
Marriage
23/12/1860 Halesowen St. John Baptist
Joseph Baker bach. 21Miner Hill father Zachariah Baker Bricklayer
Selina Roch sp. 20 Hill father Joseph Roch Nailer
Witnesses :- Joseph Smith and Sophia Griffen
Marriage St. Thomas Dudley Staffs. 27/3/1848
James Priest ( wid) Nail Trimmer Dudley father James Priest Nailer
Mary Ann Dutton (wid) Dudley father William Melley dec. Nailer
Witnesses Zachariah Baker and Elizabeth Baker
Rock/Baker/Priest Connections go further as
Selena Rock daughter of Joseph Rock and Sarah Priest married Joseph Baker son of Zachariah Baker who also married Sarah Priest
Almost missed this connection as marriage record on Halesowen Parish Records and Freereg has wrong surname ( Roch instead of Rock)
Marriage
23/12/1860 Halesowen St. John Baptist
Joseph Baker bach. 21Miner Hill father Zachariah Baker Bricklayer
Selina Roch sp. 20 Hill father Joseph Roch Nailer
Witnesses :- Joseph Smith and Sophia Griffen
Re: Rock,Watchorn,Priest Connections
Added and sorted everything apart from Isaac Rock grd.son aged 17 below
1871 Census Waggon Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Zachariah Baker Head 63 Bricklayer born Kingswinford Staffs.
Sarah Baker wife 57
Phoebe Priest mother.in.law (wid)
Isaac Rock grd.son 17 Coal Miner
James Griffin grd.son 14 Coal Miner
Selina Griffin grd.dau 4 Scholar
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.
He married an Eliza Burns St. Edmunds 31/1/1876
Isaac Rock bach. miner Netherton no details of Father
Elizabeth Burns sp. Netherton no details of father
Witnesses William Hayward and Clara Ann Neale
1871 Census Waggon Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Zachariah Baker Head 63 Bricklayer born Kingswinford Staffs.
Sarah Baker wife 57
Phoebe Priest mother.in.law (wid)
Isaac Rock grd.son 17 Coal Miner
James Griffin grd.son 14 Coal Miner
Selina Griffin grd.dau 4 Scholar
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.
He married an Eliza Burns St. Edmunds 31/1/1876
Isaac Rock bach. miner Netherton no details of Father
Elizabeth Burns sp. Netherton no details of father
Witnesses William Hayward and Clara Ann Neale
Re: Rock,Watchorn,Priest Connections
I think I have sorted as no Isaac Rock born 1854/1855 but an Isaac Priest born 1855
It would appear that when Sophia Rock daughter of Joseph Rock and Sarah Rock (Nee Priest) married a Walter Griffin she had a son Isaac before marriage
he appears as Isaac Griffin on 1861 Census but as Isaac Rock in 1871 Census and on marriage record and subsequent census records. Probably baptised in Sophia Rock maiden name Priest
Marriage 29/10/1855 St. John Baptist Halesowen
Walter Griffen bach. 22 Miner Gosty Hill father James Griffen Farmer
Sophia Rock sp. 21 Nailer Gosty Hill father Joseph Rock Nailer
Witnesses :- Joseph and Sarah Rock
1861 Census Garratts Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Walter Griffin Head 30 Coal Miner born Bromsgrove Worcs.
Sophia Griffin wife 27 Nail Maker
Isaac Griffin son 7
James Griffin son 4
Benjamin Griffin son 5mths
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.
It would appear that when Sophia Rock daughter of Joseph Rock and Sarah Rock (Nee Priest) married a Walter Griffin she had a son Isaac before marriage
he appears as Isaac Griffin on 1861 Census but as Isaac Rock in 1871 Census and on marriage record and subsequent census records. Probably baptised in Sophia Rock maiden name Priest
Marriage 29/10/1855 St. John Baptist Halesowen
Walter Griffen bach. 22 Miner Gosty Hill father James Griffen Farmer
Sophia Rock sp. 21 Nailer Gosty Hill father Joseph Rock Nailer
Witnesses :- Joseph and Sarah Rock
1861 Census Garratts Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Walter Griffin Head 30 Coal Miner born Bromsgrove Worcs.
Sophia Griffin wife 27 Nail Maker
Isaac Griffin son 7
James Griffin son 4
Benjamin Griffin son 5mths
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Re: Rock,Watchorn,Priest Connections
meant baptised in Sarah Rock maiden name Priest