ARC TBC...............Hannah wall (Thornton )

[mjay]

Hannah Wall marries Benjamin Thornton 1903 age 20
Here on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... ver=339913

We have marriage & 1911 census

Baptism info
Name: Hannah Wall
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 13 Jan 1884
Baptism Date: 2 Mar 1884
Baptism Place: St. Paul's, Tipton, Stafford, England
Father: John Wall
Mother: Hannah
FHL Film Number: 1526191
Reference ID: item 6 p 14

Think this is 1891 census
Name: Hannah Wall
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Parent's Name: Hannah Wall
Gender: Female
Where born: Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Tipton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address

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Registration district: Dudley
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2284
Folio: 68
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Hannah Wall 52
Betsy Wall 19
John Philip Wall 17
William Wall 12
Hannah Wall. 7

[mjay]

Can't see a 1901 ?

[Jimmy]

Can't see a 1901 ?

Deaths Jun 1901 (>99%)
Wall Hannah 62 Dudley 6c 26.


1901. 1 Old Cross St, Tipton.
Hannah Wall 61. Widow.
Polly Wall 18. Dau. Char women.
Phillip Wall 27. Son. Labourer on ???? line.
Lizzie Wall 8/12. Grand dau.

All born Tipton.

Deaths Jun 1901,
Wall Hannah, 62, Dudley, 6c, 26,

[Jimmy]

Looks like it could be them in 1881.

1881. 19 Pike Helve, West Bromwich.
John Wall 50. Coal miner.
Hannah Wall 40.
Joseph Wall 10. Son.
Betsy Wall 9. Dau.
John Wall 7. Son.
Sarah Wall 5. Dau.
William Wall 3. Son.

All born West Bromwich.

[mjay]

I knew I knew the address on 1901 census
1 old cross St Hall family thanks to Jimmy for finding
3 old cross St my great grandmother Sheldon family already on BCC

Can anyone read occupations on 1891 census please

Thanks again Jimmy

[Jimmy]

Not sure on these,

1871. Coppice St, Tipton.
John Wall 32. Coal miner. Broseley, Shrops.
Hannah Wall 28. Burton, Staffs.
John Wall 3. Tipton.
Joseph Wall 1. Tipton.


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1865.
WALL John. SMART Hannah. Tipton, St Martin. (Pepper Box). Sandwell Register Office. 39/10/469.


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1867.
WALL John. YOUNG Hannah. West Bromwich, Christ Church. Sandwell Register Office. 23/4/283.



County Staffordshire.
Place West Bromwich.
Church name Christ Church.
Register type.
Register entry number 283.
Marriage date 04 May 1867.
Groom forename John
Groom surname WALL.
Groom age 25.
Groom condition bachelor.
Groom abode West Bromwich.
Groom occupation Engine worker.
Bride forename Hannah
Bride surname YOUNG.
Bride age 27.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride abode West Bromwich.
Groom father forename John
Groom father surname WALL.
Groom father occupation Labourer.
Bride father forename Thomas
Bride father surname YOUNG.
Bride father occupation Labourer.
Witness1 forename William
Witness1 surname WALL.
Witness2 forename Elizabeth
Witness2 surname YOUNG.
Notes Groom, bride & witness 2 sign X.

[Jimmy]

I knew I knew the address on 1901 census
1 old cross St Hall family thanks to Jimmy for finding
3 old cross St my great grandmother Sheldon family already on BCC

Can anyone read occupations on 1891 census please

Thanks again Jimmy

This one,

1891. No 1 Court 1, Wood St, Tipton.
Hannah Wall 52. House Worker.
Betsy Wall 19. House Domestic.
John Philip Wall 17.
William Wall 12. Canal Labourer.
Hannah Wall 7.

All born Tipton.

[mjay]

Looks like it could be them in 1881.

1881. 19 Pike Helve, West Bromwich.
John Wall 50. Coal miner.
Hannah Wall 40.
Joseph Wall 10. Son.
Betsy Wall 9. Dau.
John Wall 7. Son.
Sarah Wall 5. Dau.
William Wall 3. Son.

All born West Bromwich.

Does look like them doesn't it

[mjay]

Not sure on these,

1871. Coppice St, Tipton.
John Wall 32. Coal miner. Broseley, Shrops.
Hannah Wall 28. Burton, Staffs.
John Wall 3. Tipton.
Joseph Wall 1. Tipton.


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1865.
WALL John. SMART Hannah. Tipton, St Martin. (Pepper Box). Sandwell Register Office. 39/10/469.


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1867.
WALL John. YOUNG Hannah. West Bromwich, Christ Church. Sandwell Register Office. 23/4/283.



County Staffordshire.
Place West Bromwich.
Church name Christ Church.
Register type.
Register entry number 283.
Marriage date 04 May 1867.
Groom forename John
Groom surname WALL.
Groom age 25.
Groom condition bachelor.
Groom abode West Bromwich.
Groom occupation Engine worker.
Bride forename Hannah
Bride surname YOUNG.
Bride age 27.
Bride condition spinster.
Bride abode West Bromwich.
Groom father forename John
Groom father surname WALL.
Groom father occupation Labourer.
Bride father forename Thomas
Bride father surname YOUNG.
Bride father occupation Labourer.
Witness1 forename William
Witness1 surname WALL.
Witness2 forename Elizabeth
Witness2 surname YOUNG.
Notes Groom, bride & witness 2 sign X.

Jimmy
I Agree with you on not sure about 1871

Shall I request a look up on that other marriage
Thanks again

[Jimmy]

Would help to check the Hannah Smart marriage.

[mjay]

No probs thanks Jimmy

[mjay]

Marriage looked up thanks to Sparks

23rd. July 1865. St.Martin, Tipton.
John WALL 26 bach: Miner, Tipton.
father: Edw. Wall(Stonecutter).
Hannah SMART(X) 22 Widow: Tipton.
father: Phil. Thurman(Boatman).
Witns:
Jas. Darby(X)/Mary Darby(X).

[Jimmy]

1851. Coppice St, Tipton.
Philip Thurman 30. Labourer.
Ann Thurman 26.
Hannah Thurman 8. Dau.
Joseph Thurman 4. Son.
Ann Thurman 1. Dau.

All born Tipton.

1861. 75 Coppice St, Tipton.
Phillip Hummer 40. Labourer.
Ann Hummer 36.
Ann Hummer 11. Dau.
Mary Ann Hummer 9. Dau.
Betsey Hummer 6. Dau.
Sarah Hummer 4. Dau.

All born Tipton.

1871. 61 Coppice St, Tipton.
Phillip Thurman 50. Colliery lab.
Ann Thurman 48.
Mary Thurman 19. Dau.
Betsy Thurman 18. Dau.

All born Tipton.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1841.
THURMAN Philip. DARBY Ann. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/004/234.

[Jimmy]

I can't see an earlier marriage for Hannah to a Smart.

[sparkstopper]

I can't see an earlier marriage for Hannah to a Smart.

Same here: Can't find Hannah's first marr: