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*Archived * Charles Trueman/Tromans

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I have now added all the Trueman details from Dennis :P

When adding marriage info on Charles Trueman b1840 to Honour Parson ....see here

I noticed there is a Honour Parsons already on .....see here

Both die in Australia? What do we think?
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Re: Charles Trueman/Tromans

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this is the marriage

Marriages Sep 1861

Gough Edwin Kings N. 6c 576
Howard Sarah Ann King's N. 6c 576
Parsons Honnour Kings N 6c 576
Trueman Charles Kings N 6c 576

could do with finding em on census just to confirm that charles married a Honnor
and then see if we can find church for look up

or find clues as to who was living near em regarding family
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Re: Charles Trueman/Tromans

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Charles Trueman
Birth: 16 OCT 1840 Halesowen Hill, , Worcester,

Marriages:
Spouse: Honor Parsons Family
Marriage: 15 SEP 1861 Edgbaston, Warwick, Record submitted


Mally look this up!!
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As you asked so nicely :roll: If I get chance next week, I'll do just that :wink:
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mallosa wrote:As you asked so nicely :roll: If I get chance next week, I'll do just that :wink:


nice one and well spotted on that connections
we can join em up.

In the meantime if anyone fancies looking at census might hit lucky and get parents of one of em living near the couple
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Re: Charles Trueman/Tromans

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I was given some more information about the Tromans line by a descendant yesterday, NL:

Descendants of George Tromans


Generation No. 1

1. GEORGE10 TROMANS (FERDINANDO9, WILLIAM8, ISAAC7, BEN6, CAPTAIN5, AMOS4, SAMUELL3 TROMAN, WILLIAM2, THOMAS1) was born Abt. 1854 in Dudley, Worcestershire, and died 1918. He married MARY ANN PUGH 02 Feb 1873 in St John the Baptist church, Halesowen, Worcs, daughter of THOMAS PUGH and EDNA TROMANS. She was born 1853 in Dudley, Worcestershire, and died 1927 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.

Children of GEORGE TROMANS and MARY PUGH are:
i. JOHN11 TROMANS.
ii. LILY TROMANS.
iii. SAMUEL TROMANS.
iv. THOMAS TROMANS.
2. v. FERDINANDO TROMANS, b. 1873, Cradley Heath, Staffs.
vi. MARY M TROMANS, b. 1875, Rowley Regis, Staffs.
vii. HANNAH TROMANS, b. 1876, Rowley Regis, Staffs.
3. viii. GEORGE TROMANS, b. 14 Mar 1877, Cradley Heath, Staffordshire; d. 1947, Old Hill, Staffordshire.
ix. WILLIAM H TROMANS, b. 1879, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
4. x. EDMUND TROMANS, b. 16 Apr 1881, Old Hill, West Midlands; d. 1966, Old Hill, West Midlands.
xi. ALICE TROMANS, b. 1883, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
xii. LAURA TROMANS, b. 1884, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
xiii. ERNEST TROMANS, b. 1885, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
xiv. FREDERICK TROMANS, b. 1886, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
xv. BENJAMIN TROMANS, b. 1888, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.


Generation No. 2

2. FERDINANDO11 TROMANS (GEORGE10, FERDINANDO9, WILLIAM8, ISAAC7, BEN6, CAPTAIN5, AMOS4, SAMUELL3 TROMAN, WILLIAM2, THOMAS1) was born 1873 in Cradley Heath, Staffs. He married JANE GRIFFITHS Abt. Jun 1895 in Dudley, Worcestershire. She was born Abt. 1874 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.

Notes for FERDINANDO TROMANS:
Known as "Nanda".

Children of FERDINANDO TROMANS and JANE GRIFFITHS are:
i. HANNAH R12 TROMANS, b. Abt. 1896, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
ii. MARY J TROMANS, b. Abt. 1899, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.


3. GEORGE11 TROMANS (GEORGE10, FERDINANDO9, WILLIAM8, ISAAC7, BEN6, CAPTAIN5, AMOS4, SAMUELL3 TROMAN, WILLIAM2, THOMAS1) was born 14 Mar 1877 in Cradley Heath, Staffordshire, and died 1947 in Old Hill, Staffordshire. He married MARY ANN SOUTHALL 07 Apr 1901 in St Paul's church, Blackheath, Staffordshire. She was born Abt. 1873 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, and died 17 Aug 1934 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.

Notes for GEORGE TROMANS:
Kept a fish and chip shop opposite the Anchor in Gorsty Hill.

Children of GEORGE TROMANS and MARY SOUTHALL are:
5. i. GEORGE THOMAS12 TROMANS, b. 25 Feb 1902, Old Hill, Staffordshire; d. 1987, Blackheath, Staffordshire.
6. ii. HERBERT TROMANS, b. 24 Jul 1903, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; d. 1994, Corby, Northamptonshire.
7. iii. DORIS TROMANS, b. 29 Oct 1905, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; d. 1998, Corby, Northamptonshire.
8. iv. ELSIE GLADYS TROMANS, b. 18 Feb 1908, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; d. 12 Mar 1995, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
v. GERTRUDE TROMANS, b. 26 Aug 1910, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; d. Nov 1910, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
9. vi. HORACE TROMANS, b. 26 Oct 1912, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; d. Sep 1999, Halesowen, Worcestershire.
10. vii. ETHEL TROMANS, b. 15 Oct 1914, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire; d. Jan 2008, St. James Hospital, Leeds.


4. EDMUND11 TROMANS (GEORGE10, FERDINANDO9, WILLIAM8, ISAAC7, BEN6, CAPTAIN5, AMOS4, SAMUELL3 TROMAN, WILLIAM2, THOMAS1) was born 16 Apr 1881 in Old Hill, West Midlands, and died 1966 in Old Hill, West Midlands. He married LILY PARRY 29 Jul 1906 in St Paul's church, Blackheath, Staffordshire. She was born 05 Aug 1881 in Blackheath, Staffs, and died 1951 in Old Hill, West Midlands.

Children of EDMUND TROMANS and LILY PARRY are:
i. HAROLD12 TROMANS.
ii. CECIL TROMANS, b. 01 Jan 1907, Old Hill, West Midlands; d. 1965, Kalgoorlie, Western Australia; m. EVELYN MAY HEWER, 29 Dec 1935, Southern Cross, Australia; b. 07 May 1912, Newcastle upon Tyne; d. 1988.
iii. FLORENCE TROMANS, b. 17 Mar 1909, Old Hill, Staffordshire; d. 2004, Russells Hall Hospital, Dudley, Worcs; m. JOSEPH JOHNSON; b. 23 Apr 1905, Old Hill, Staffordshire; d. 1978.
iv. GEORGE HENRY TROMANS, b. 1918, Old Hill, Staffordshire; d. 1919, Old Hill, Staffordshire.
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Re: Charles Trueman/Tromans

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There is a note on the Ancestry Public Message board by Charenton about Charles and Honour, NL:

"Honour Parsons married her cousin, Charles Trueman at Edgbaston church on 15th September 1861. They emigrated to Australia on Christmas Day 1867 with their daughter Rose Hannah and son Thomas Charles.

In Australia they had seven further children, two of which died in infancy.

Charles Trueman died on 7th November 1896 in Parkside, South Australia. Honour Trueman continued to live there until her death in 1920, aged 81."

According to Charenton's Parsons Family Tree, this is the line:

Descendants of Benjamin Parsons


Generation No. 1

1. BENJAMIN1 PARSONS was born Abt. 23 Apr 1794 in Halesowen, Worcestershire, and died 28 Aug 1848 in 38 Hanley Street, Birmingham. He married HONOUR TREWMAN 15 Sep 1816 in St Thomas's church, Dudley, Worcestershire, daughter of JAMES TROMAN and MARY CLIFFORD. She was born 16 Sep 1798 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, and died 31 Jan 1865 in 8 New John Street, Birmingham.

Child of BENJAMIN PARSONS and HONOUR TREWMAN is:
2. i. HONOUR2 PARSONS, b. 12 Mar 1839, Woodcock Street, Birmingham, Warks; d. 1920, Parkside, South Australia.


Generation No. 2

2. HONOUR2 PARSONS (BENJAMIN1) was born 12 Mar 1839 in Woodcock Street, Birmingham, Warks, and died 1920 in Parkside, South Australia. She married CHARLES TRUEMAN 15 Sep 1861 in Edgbaston, Birmingham, Warks, son of WILLIAM TREWMAN and RUTH PLANT. He was born 16 Oct 1840 in Halesowen, Worcestershire, and died 07 Nov 1896 in Parkside, South Australia.

Children of HONOUR PARSONS and CHARLES TRUEMAN are:
i. ROSE HANNAH3 TRUEMAN, b. 1863, Birmingham, Warks.
3. ii. THOMAS CHARLES TRUEMAN, b. 26 Aug 1866, Walsall Road, Aston Manor, Warks.
iii. EBENEZER TRUEMAN, b. 1869.
4. iv. JAMES BENJAMIN TRUEMAN, b. 1872.
v. PHOEBE ALEXANDER TRUEMAN, b. 1877.
vi. RUTH TRUEMAN, b. 1884.
5. vii. EVERIDGE STANLEY TRUEMAN, b. 1886.
viii. LILIAN TRUEMAN.
ix. JESSIE TRUEMAN.


Generation No. 3

3. THOMAS CHARLES3 TRUEMAN (HONOUR2 PARSONS, BENJAMIN1) was born 26 Aug 1866 in Walsall Road, Aston Manor, Warks. He married LUCY FRANCES THORNTON PAYNTER 18 Sep 1894 in Australia. She was born 05 Sep 1872 in Ludlow, Shropshire.

Children of THOMAS TRUEMAN and LUCY PAYNTER are:
i. HAROLD CHARLES4 TRUEMAN, b. 26 Jun 1895, Mile End, South Australia.
ii. KEITH JAMES TRUEMAN, b. 18 May 1898, Mile End, South Australia.


4. JAMES BENJAMIN3 TRUEMAN (HONOUR2 PARSONS, BENJAMIN1) was born 1872. He married MARY RUSSELL.

Children of JAMES TRUEMAN and MARY RUSSELL are:
i. PHOEBE MURIEL4 TRUEMAN, b. 1897.
ii. MAVIS BADEN TRUEMAN, b. 1900.
iii. ROYAL JAMES TRUEMAN, b. 1902.


5. EVERIDGE STANLEY3 TRUEMAN (HONOUR2 PARSONS, BENJAMIN1) was born 1886. He married LETITIA HELEN PAYNTER.

Child of EVERIDGE TRUEMAN and LETITIA PAYNTER is:
i. ARNOLD EVERIDGE4 TRUEMAN, b. 1911; m. LILIAN MAUD CLAYTON, 1934; b. 1914.
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Dennis wrote:There is a note on the Ancestry Public Message board by Charenton about Charles and Honour, NL:

"Honour Parsons married her cousin, Charles Trueman at Edgbaston church on 15th September 1861. They emigrated to Australia on Christmas Day 1867 with their daughter Rose Hannah and son Thomas Charles.

In Australia they had seven further children, two of which died in infancy.

Charles Trueman died on 7th November 1896 in Parkside, South Australia. Honour Trueman continued to live there until her death in 1920, aged 81."



No wonder I couldn't find them on 1861 or 71 Census :roll: ...Honour Parsons
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Not sure what is on and not on re this lot

Shame to not add to Connections

Dennis if you can add any it would be great or anyone else
I know you have a wedding this weekend
take your laptop!
hey and where is my invite!!
coz!
Send me some cake!

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