Arc.............. which Thomas Herring?

Waltzer7 · Post by **Waltzer7** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:42 pm

Hi,

I've been doing some searching on the Family Tree and there are some baffling mysteries! I have been trying to find the correct parents for James Herrin/Herring (1815 - 18/5/1874)

There is a Thomas Herring B: 16 November 1788 marrying Fanny. Their children are: -

Henzey 1811 - 1846
John 1816
Henry 1819
Sarah 1821

As I couldn't find any James as one of Thomas and Fanny's sons, so I looked elsewhere, discovering 1841 Census that has a Mary Herring, aged 55 - who is she? Is she Thomas Herring's wife? There is a Thomas Herring (1786) on the same census, also at 55 with other Herrings: -

John - 25 Nailer
Ann - 20
John - 2
Emma - 4 months
James - 25 Nailer )__ They seem to be James Herring and Jane Newey, parents of Job Herrin, who is my Great, great, grandfather.
Jane - 20 )
Job - 4
George - 2
Emma - 2 months
Mary - 55 Nailer - Is this Mary the wife of Thomas Herring 1786 & mother of James?

On the other 1841 Census, there is a Fanny Herring also aged 55 along with other Herrings but not on the same pages as above... plus no Thomas Herring???

Sarah - 20
Mary - 9
Henry - 20
Mary - 20
Matilda - 2
Elizabeth - 1 & half.

I've found a bit more on Mary Sparrow B:1765 who married Thomas Herring on 10 July 1785 at St. Martin's, Worcestershire. Their children are: -

John 1786
Thomas 1786
Mary 1790
Maria 3/10/1793 - 15/3/1827 Maria married Jonathan Taylor at Clent on 8/11/1813
Sarah 1794
Betty 1796
Joseph 1797
Charlotte 1803

Under Mary Sparrow, are FHL Film numbers: 415132, 415133, 415134, 415135 - what are they and will I be able to find out more from them?

I hope I have put enough down and would really appreciate some advice on how to link James to the correct Thomas Herring.

grangers14 · Post by **grangers14** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:56 pm

Moving over to Black Countrysection
Jo

grangers14 · Post by **grangers14** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:57 pm

This looks like it is your family on BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ing-Family

That has Thomas and Frances as his parents.
Jo

Waltzer7 · Post by **Waltzer7** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:51 pm

grangers14 wrote:This looks like it is your family on BCC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ing-Family

That has Thomas and Frances as his parents.
Jo

Thanks. For some reason I can't find James Herring (1816) under Thomas Herring (1788) & Frances but can find him under Thomas Herring (1786) along with a Mary Herring (1786) on the 1841 Census along with James' wife Jane & their children. :/

Are we able to trace ancestors of Thomas Herring & Mary Sparrow as well as other members of the family from that era?

grangers14 · Post by **grangers14** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:02 pm

I dont understand what you mean about the being "under" Thomas?
If you add another thread we could see if we can find the other with Mary Sparrow?

It is very difficult once you get to 1841 census, ages should be round down to the lower 5 and it doesnt show relationships. Then it is Parish records and it is not always as easy to know who is who.
Jo

grangers14 · Post by **grangers14** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:10 pm

I see what you are saying though...

Grouped up into same household
Schedule 15

1841. Waste Bank, Old Swinford.
Thomas Herring, 55, Nail Facturer?
Fanny, 55,
Sarah. 20,
Mary, 9. All born in County

Living nextdoor
Henry Herring, 20, Nailer,
Mary, 20,
Matilda, 2,
Elizabeth, 1 m?
All born in County

Schedule 17
1841. Waste Bank Old Swinford.
John Herring, 25, Nailor
Ann, 20,
John, 2,
Emma, 4 months
All born in County

James Herring, 25, Nailer
Jane, 20,
Job, 4,
George, 2,
Emma, 8 months
All born in County

A couple of houses away
Mary Herring, 55, Nailer
Robert Wood, 85,
Mary, 60,
William Taylor, 15, Nailor
All born in County

The other family you are saying there isnt a christening for a James? Perhaps its another family connected?
Jo

Waltzer7 · Post by **Waltzer7** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:32 pm

Thanks for that, Jo

That does look so much neater typed that way compared with viewing the scribble on the 1841 Census. But unfortunately I can't find James Herrin/Herring as the son of Thomas & Frances Herring, only John (1816) who is of the same baptism age as James (1816).

Have found Thomas Herring (1786) son of Thomas Herring & Mary Sparrow (1765) who got married on the 10th July 1785 at St. Martin's, Worcestershire.

Mags

grangers14 · Post by **grangers14** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:42 pm

OK there is this marriage, lets see if we can get this looked up, see where this may belong?
HARRIN * John PARKES Ann Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/71
HEARRIN * John PARKES Ann Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/002/71

Freereg has this...
6th March 1814. St Mary, Oldswinford.
James, Thomas and Frances Herring, fathers occupation nailer

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Fri May 01, 2015 12:50 am

here on bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ing-Family

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Fri May 01, 2015 12:59 am

OMD christenings

James Herring
Christening: 06 Mar 1814 : OLD SWINFORD,WORCESTER

Father's Thomas Herring
Mother's: Frances

Sarah Herring
Christening Date: 20 May 1821 OLD SWINFORD,WORCESTER

Father's Thos. Herring
Mother's Fanny

John Herring
Christening Date: 14 Apr 1816 OLD SWINFORD,WORCESTER

Father's Thomas Herring
Mother's Fanny

Henry Herring
Christening Date: 31 Jan 1819 OLD SWINFORD,WORCESTER

Father's Thomas Herring
Mother's Fanny

Henzey Herring (Female)
Christening Date: 08 Sep 1811 OLD SWINFORD,WORCESTER,

Father's Thomas Herring
Mother's Fanny

Waltzer7 · Post by **Waltzer7** » Fri May 01, 2015 8:35 am

Many thanks for that, Peterd.

What does OMD stands for & where can I access them? As got a few more family ancestors that are in a muddle.

Thanks

Mags

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Fri May 01, 2015 8:58 am

Waltzer7 wrote:Many thanks for that, Peterd.

What does OMD stands for & where can I access them? As got a few more family ancestors that are in a muddle.

Thanks

Mags

OMD means they come from parish records
easy means they have been submitted by people

from here

https://familysearch.org/search

Waltzer7 · Post by **Waltzer7** » Fri May 01, 2015 11:11 pm

Many thanks for explaining OMD & also for providing the link to Family Search, which was the link I had used several years ago to find my ancestors but lost it as technology changes and our old PC died so starting over again.

peterd · Post by **peterd** » Sat May 02, 2015 12:45 am

Waltzer7 wrote:Many thanks for explaining OMD & also for providing the link to Family Search, which was the link I had used several years ago to find my ancestors but lost it as technology changes and our old PC died so starting over again.

you might find this section of the forum useful

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=336

Waltzer7 · Post by **Waltzer7** » Sat May 02, 2015 11:23 pm

Many thanks for the link, Peterd & it does look very useful.

Much appreciated, thanks

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