NL adding to Bcc...Sargeant and son Johnny Bashford

[Getagrip]

Researching my Grandma Lily (Lilian) Robinson nee Bashford I came across Sargeant Bashford from Lye. His son John Henry Bashford was killed at the age of six as he looked for his dad. He fell into banksman Sargeant's workplace (mine pit?) and died several feet from where he actually fell. Here is an account - http://www.cradleylinks.co.uk/bashford.htm

I would like to hear from anyone who is researching this family, I'm not even sure that Sargeant is in my bloodline.

[Northern Lass]

Hi and welcome to the forum

Just read that link /story
that is so sad!

moving this to our Black Country GEnealogy section

[Northern Lass]

Is this his father?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=34306608

any census anyone please?

will add in Johnny and the cradley link

then we can connect up if same family.

[Northern Lass]

got the 1901 census looks like it is that Sargeant Bashford
married to an Elizabeth

will connect up and look for marriage for Sargeant and Elizabeth.


Sargeant is a Banksman on that census.

[Northern Lass]

Researching my Grandma Lily (Lilian) Robinson nee Bashford I came across Sargeant Bashford from Lye. His son John Henry Bashford was killed at the age of six as he looked for his dad. He fell into banksman Sargeant's workplace (mine pit?) and died several feet from where he actually fell. Here is an account - http://www.cradleylinks.co.uk/bashford.htm

I would like to hear from anyone who is researching this family, I'm not even sure that Sargeant is in my bloodline.

Getagrip..... on the 1901 there is a lily with that family Sargeant and Elizabeth
is that your family?
is that your lily Bashford?

if so John Henry is with that family.

[mallosa]

1871: Baldwins Green, Wollescote, Worc
William Cartwright 23 (33?) Head Horse Nail Maker
Sarah Cartwright 31 Wife Wrought Nail Maker
John Cartwright 11 Son Wrought Nail Maker
Mary Cartwright 9 Dau
Eliza Cartwright 7 Dau
Sarah Ann Cartwright 5 Dau
Celia Cartwright 3 Dau
Elizabeth Cartwright 10 Months Dau
Mary Bashford 43 Mother Widow Wrought Nail Maker
Thomas Bashford 23 Son Horse Nail Maker
Sarjenb (SARGEANT) Bashford 15 Son Horse Nail Maker
Charles Bashford 11 Son Horse Nail Maker
Sarah Bashford 12 Dau Horse Nail Maker
Mary Ann Bashford 34?? Dau Horse Nail Maker
William Bashford 2 Son
(all born Lye, Worc)

1881/1891 ??

1901: Church Street, Lye, Worc
Sergeant Bashford 45 Head Banksman
Elizabeth Bashford 38 Wife
Mary Bashford 4 Dau
Lily Bashford 2 Dau
John Hy Bashford 6 mths Son

1911: 18 Pope Street, Wollescote
Sargent Bashford 56 Head Banksman Claymine - Marr 14 yrs
Elizabeth Bashford 47 Wife - children 4/2/2
Mary Bashford 13 Dau Enamel Carrier
Lilly Bashford 12 Dau

Death Jun 1907
Bashford John Henry [56] Stourbridge 6c 84 ( I think this could be him and should be age 6)

[Northern Lass]

marriage is a regis office one

dont suppose you have this do you GAGrip


1897
BASHFORD Serjeant PRICE Elizabeth Stourbridge Register Office Dudley Register Office 001/016/125

[Northern Lass]

Researching my Grandma Lily (Lilian) Robinson nee Bashford I came across Sargeant Bashford from Lye. His son John Henry Bashford was killed at the age of six as he looked for his dad. He fell into banksman Sargeant's workplace (mine pit?) and died several feet from where he actually fell. Here is an account - http://www.cradleylinks.co.uk/bashford.htm

I would like to hear from anyone who is researching this family, I'm not even sure that Sargeant is in my bloodline.

is this your grandmas marriage?...if so looks like a different Lily


Marriages Sep 1920
Bashford Lily M Robinson Birmingham 6d 708

and on Ancestry

Name: Lily May Bashford
Gender: Female
Birth Year:abt 1897
Marriage Date:31 Jul 1920
Marriage Age:23
Marriage Place:Birmingham, St George, Warwickshire, England
Spouse:Ernest Robinson
Spouse Gender:Male
Spouse Marriage Age:21
Father: William Bashford
Spouse's Father:Henry Robinson
Reference Number: DRO 9
Archive Roll: 609

you can click on and see the actual certif they have photographed on ancestry.

[Northern Lass]

poss for the lily with sergeant


1916
BASHFORD Lily RAYBOULD Wilfred Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/004/5

[Northern Lass]

Will add in the other Lily your line?

to see if we can connect up Lily with father Wm Bashford to the Sergeant line

if anyone can help me with census etc?

looking for Lily with father Wm Bashford poss sister Elsie bashford?

[mallosa]

any use....

1901: 23 Cox Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire
Esther Turbwefield 52 Head Hardware Shop Keeper
Henry Turbwefield 24 Son Jewellers Preparer Sold (Solderer?)
William Bashford 33 Son in Law Marr Gun Polisher
Emily Bashford 32 Dau
Emily Bashford 12 Grd Dau
Lily Bashford 6 Grd Dau
Beatrice Bashford 5 Grd Dau
Elsie Bashford 1 Grd Dau
(all born Birmigham)

1911: 5/71 Edward St, Parade, Ladywood, B'ham
William J Bashford 44 Head Brass Polisher marr 24 years
Emma C Bashford 41 Wife - children 11/4/7
Lillian M Bashford 16 Dau Brass Polisher
Betrice B Bashford 15 Dau Brass Polisher

Marriages Sep 1920
Bashford Lily M Robinson Birmingham 6d 708
Homer Ann M Worrall Birmingham 6d 708
Robinson Ernest Bashford Birmingham 6d 708
Worrall William Homer Birmingham 6d 708

[mallosa]

Sorry Jan, just noticed I have duplicated that marriage of yours

[Northern Lass]

I can't see a connection to Sargeant father of Johnny to William Bashford with dau Lily
those bashfords seem to be B'ham based

can anyone else?

there may be a connection going way back

[Northern Lass]

is there a marriage we can look up for Wm and Emma/Emily?
1911: 5/71 Edward St, Parade, Ladywood, B'ham
William J Bashford 44 Head Brass Polisher marr 24 years
Emma C Bashford 41 Wife - children 11/4/7
Lillian M Bashford 16 Dau Brass Polisher
Betrice B Bashford 15 Dau Brass Polisher

[Jimmy]

Marriages Sep 1920
Bashford Lily M Robinson Birmingham 6d 708
Homer Ann M Worrall Birmingham 6d 708
Robinson Ernest Bashford Birmingham 6d 708
Worrall William Homer Birmingham 6d 708

From Ancestry.

Name: Lily May Bashford. Spinster, polisher.
Gender: Female.
Birth Year: abt 1897.
Marriage Date: 31 Jul 1920.
Marriage Age: 23.
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St George, Warwickshire, England.
Spouse: Ernest Robinson. Bachelor, Polisher.
Spouse Gender: Male.
Spouse Marriage Age: 21.
Father: William Bashford. Labourer.
Spouse's Father: Henry Robinson. Striker ?.
Reference Number: DRO 9.
Archive Roll: 609.

Same address for both,
109 Smith St.

Both signed,

Witnesses,
Alfred Robinson, and Elsi Bashford.